Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3

[twizted]

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[Vape360]

Question for ProVape... If the VW mode is limited to 20W, and the VV mode is limited to 6V, and the device is limited to 5A, and it can fire down to 0.7ohms, wouldn't 6V on a 1.2ohm coil in VV mode give you 30W at 5A, or is there still a 20W limitation in there somehow? The math doesn't seem to add up. Thanks.

Hi JohnD,

There are 4 limit checks that are done to protect the hardware and the users and provide safe operation. These are;


1) No power output over 20 watts
2) No voltage output over 6 volts
3) No resistance below .7 ohms
4) No current output over 5 amps.

 

[Ozwald]

Hi JohnD,

There are 4 limit checks that are done to protect the hardware and the users and provide safe operation. These are;


1) No power output over 20 watts
2) No voltage output over 6 volts
3) No resistance below .7 ohms
4) No current output over 5 amps.

So there is an active low resistance limit check on the P3?

I understand there was a passive bottom limit on the v2.5 governed by the current or power limit depending on setting, not it's own check per se.

 

[Vape360]

So there is an active low resistance limit check on the P3?

I understand there was a passive bottom limit on the v2.5 governed by the current or power limit depending on setting, not it's own check per se.

Yes, it will monitor all of these parameters real time.

 

[Ozwald]

Yes, it will monitor all of these parameters real time.

Thanks for answering all of these questions.

 

[Vape360]

So. My question to provape is. Are y'all really working in a topper? And will you release any details on it this year?


Broadcasting this message from a different planet

There are some tanks being made with the new P3 thread already and we have new tank makers contacting us to produce more options.

Those are all the details I have at the moment. As we get further along, we will keep you updated.

 

[ScandaLeX]

Speaking of cheese, I haven't seen any mention of the top secret "cheese dispenser attachment" in this thread yet. Has this concept been totally abandoned?

You forget to mention bacon!!!!!!

OR

Maybe it was Kiwi who forgot.

Sent from a BIG phone.....Galaxy Note 3

 

[Ozwald]

Just popping in cause I heard something about cheese.

 

[ENAUD]

Fingers crossed...P3 is on my Christmas wish list

 

[aikanae1]

There are some tanks being made with the new P3 thread already and we have new tank makers contacting us to produce more options.

Those are all the details I have at the moment. As we get further along, we will keep you updated.

I'm imagining some sort of hybrid since 510 connection is so inefficent.
That would be interesting.

Do people sub ohm all the time?
I guess I think of provari as a dependable daily driver.
It's possible to pick up a good mech for sub ohming starting at $10 for clones.

I'm gonna need to wait until people start discounting them in the classies.

 

[Jazzman]

Thanks so much for being active on ECF and answering our questions Vape360. It looks like a great device to me, and specs are reasonable for most vapers I think. I really want to know more about the HotShot Boost mode. This might be the killer feature for me. I see there are different boost choices and I'm assuming this will either be different voltage levels at the time the firing button is pressed for a fixed duration, or different duration of raised voltage (fixed voltage?) when fired. How does this work? While I love my Provari 2.5, I have never liked the ramp up time of getting the coil to temp for a great vape after I press the fire button. This is not unique to the Provari, all the regulated mods have this unless being able to push high wattage (which really does the same thing, it just happens so quickly at high wattage it is not really noticeable but would still be measurable). It looks like this will address this behavior and will be a huge benefit to mid power level vapers like me.

So how does it work? If you're allowed to address this.

 

[Vape360]

Thanks so much for being active on ECF and answering our questions Vape360. It looks like a great device to me, and specs are reasonable for most vapers I think. I really want to know more about the HotShot Boost mode. This might be the killer feature for me. I see there are different boost choices and I'm assuming this will either be different voltage levels at the time the firing button is pressed for a fixed duration, or different duration of raised voltage (fixed voltage?) when fired. How does this work? While I love my Provari 2.5, I have never liked the ramp up time of getting the coil to temp for a great vape after I press the fire button. This is not unique to the Provari, all the regulated mods have this unless being able to push high wattage (which really does the same thing, it just happens so quickly at high wattage it is not really noticeable but would still be measurable). It looks like this will address this behavior and will be a huge benefit to mid power level vapers like me.

So how does it work? If you're allowed to address this.

Hi Jazzman,

No problem. Please note that this is subject to change since we are in beta, but the details I have for now are:

HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff. This setting is adjustable allowing you to dial-in your favorite boost time setting. Boost mode is useful for those who want to heat up the atomizer faster. With Boost mode turned on, the atomizer will get a boost of power for a short period of time and then the power will drop down to your set power. For example, if you set your wattage to 9 watts and then turn on the boost mode to 1, by pressing the button, the device will boost the power for the first .25 seconds and then it will drop it down to 9 watts. Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts. Note that turning the ProVari up to max wattage and boosting up to 5 will not exceed the maximum output of the unit which is up to 20 watts.

Boost 1 - .25 seconds
Boost 2 – .50 seconds
Boost 3 – .75 seconds
Boost 4 – 1.00 seconds
Boost 5 – 1.25 seconds

Since this is still in beta I cannot comment on the power levels, but hopefully this gives you a better idea of how that works.

 

[Train2]

Ya know, that MIGHT be interesting. One of the things I LOVE about the ProVari is that to me, it provides a "smoother delivery of power" than other regulated mods - I THINK it's the cycle speed of the chip - but basically, it vapes better as a result.

I would have to TRY power boost to know if in fact it took things up another notch. If so...that would really be something.

Hi Jazzman,

No problem. Please note that this is subject to change since we are in beta, but the details I have for now are:

HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff. This setting is adjustable allowing you to dial-in your favorite boost time setting. Boost mode is useful for those who want to heat up the atomizer faster. With Boost mode turned on, the atomizer will get a boost of power for a short period of time and then the power will drop down to your set power. For example, if you set your wattage to 9 watts and then turn on the boost mode to 1, by pressing the button, the device will boost the power for the first .25 seconds and then it will drop it down to 9 watts. Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts. Note that turning the ProVari up to max wattage and boosting up to 5 will not exceed the maximum output of the unit which is up to 20 watts.

Boost 1 - .25 seconds
Boost 2 – .50 seconds
Boost 3 – .75 seconds
Boost 4 – 1.00 seconds
Boost 5 – 1.25 seconds

Since this is still in beta I cannot comment on the power levels, but hopefully this gives you a better idea of how that works.

 

[PLANofMAN]

...Did I understand correctly, that the P3 has some kind of new/different threading, that may be leaning towards a new "standard" in atomizer threading?
Like...replacing the current 510 system that pretty much everything works on?
I understand that 510 devices will work on it, obviously...

I'm just confused by that, cuz I can't tell if it's just "future proofing" the device, or bracing the world for a new thing...

Bracing the world for a new thing! 510 is (was) the standard for many years, as most devices in the early days used 510 cartomizers. Cartos are pretty much a dead format, except in cig-a-likes and the few diehards that cling to the cartotank setups. I've been a proponent of the need for a new standard for a few years now. It's ridiculous to continue using the 510 connection as the standard when most juice delivery systems (i.e. "toppers") are 19mm or bigger. Zen pioneered a new connection standard, the Z2 thread. Unfortunately, Zen isn't exactly a mainstream mod producer. ProVape, and by extension, the ProVari, are mainstream and have enough clout in the market (via consumer demand) to ensure that the P3 thread standard is adopted. All it would take is Kanger releasing a P3 ProTank and Sovemesto making a P3 Kayfun to get the ball rolling.

I can't answer officially, obviously, but from watching the video it looks to serve 3 purposes. Future proofing would be one of them, since you can take off the 510 'adapter' & replace it with whatever is next to come down the pike. User-end repair, in the off case your threads get damaged, they can easily be replaced with a small, inexpensive part you can swap out yourself with no technical know-how. Versatility, with the potential for different exterior rings to match tapers or different aesthetics and the like.

That. ^^^

There are some tanks being made with the new P3 thread already and we have new tank makers contacting us to produce more options.

Those are all the details I have at the moment. As we get further along, we will keep you updated.

What tanks are being made? New products or adaptations of older products? Can you at least tell us what companies are involved?
You can skip mentioning Zen. It's obvious that a P3 Z-Atty will be made for this. If I liked Genisis attys, I'd be excited, but I don't, so that's that.

 

[PLANofMAN]

Hi Jazzman,

No problem. Please note that this is subject to change since we are in beta, but the details I have for now are:

HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff. This setting is adjustable allowing you to dial-in your favorite boost time setting. Boost mode is useful for those who want to heat up the atomizer faster. With Boost mode turned on, the atomizer will get a boost of power for a short period of time and then the power will drop down to your set power. For example, if you set your wattage to 9 watts and then turn on the boost mode to 1, by pressing the button, the device will boost the power for the first .25 seconds and then it will drop it down to 9 watts. Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts. Note that turning the ProVari up to max wattage and boosting up to 5 will not exceed the maximum output of the unit which is up to 20 watts.

Boost 1 - .25 seconds
Boost 2 – .50 seconds
Boost 3 – .75 seconds
Boost 4 – 1.00 seconds
Boost 5 – 1.25 seconds

Since this is still in beta I cannot comment on the power levels, but hopefully this gives you a better idea of how that works.

Since I vape .7ohm coils at 3.7v, I'm counting on this hotshot feature to let me have a mech-like experience on the P3.
.7ohms at 3.5v will land right at the 5 amp limit and 17.5 watts. Will I be able to realistically run this setup, or will the P3 spit errors (with and without boost running) at me because it's running at maximum output?

I suppose I could go up to .8ohms at 3.7v, which would put me at 17.11 watts and 4.62 amps. I would think that with all that power under the hood (ARM chip, seriously?) the amp limit could be changed depending on what size and type of battery the P3 detected. 5 amps is reasonable for an AW 18350 battery, with it's 6 amp limit, but a Sony VTC5 18650 battery has a continuous amp draw rate of 30 amps.

Edit: Will the new ProVari have a sticker on it?

 

[Jazzman]

Hi Jazzman,

No problem. Please note that this is subject to change since we are in beta, but the details I have for now are:

HotShot ® Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff. This setting is adjustable allowing you to dial-in your favorite boost time setting. Boost mode is useful for those who want to heat up the atomizer faster. With Boost mode turned on, the atomizer will get a boost of power for a short period of time and then the power will drop down to your set power. For example, if you set your wattage to 9 watts and then turn on the boost mode to 1, by pressing the button, the device will boost the power for the first .25 seconds and then it will drop it down to 9 watts. Increasing the boost level to 2, 3, 4 or 5 will increase the amount of time the device boosts the power before it drops down to your selected 9 watts. Note that turning the ProVari up to max wattage and boosting up to 5 will not exceed the maximum output of the unit which is up to 20 watts.

Boost 1 - .25 seconds
Boost 2 – .50 seconds
Boost 3 – .75 seconds
Boost 4 – 1.00 seconds
Boost 5 – 1.25 seconds

Since this is still in beta I cannot comment on the power levels, but hopefully this gives you a better idea of how that works.

Thanks Vape360, that was exactly what I was looking for. I think this will make a much bigger difference than most vapers think and is really going to set the P3 apart from the crowd. I can see where this will be a big part of providing a new level of a satisfying vape experience. Now I'm excited, OK... I was excited before, but I think this is going to redefine what a smooth vape is with this feature. Sweet!

 

[Vape360]

Bracing the world for a new thing! 510 is (was) the standard for many years, as most devices in the early days used 510 cartomizers. Cartos are pretty much a dead format, except in cig-a-likes and the few diehards that cling to the cartotank setups. I've been a proponent of the need for a new standard for a few years now. It's ridiculous to continue using the 510 connection as the standard when most juice delivery systems (i.e. "toppers") are 19mm or bigger. Zen pioneered a new connection standard, the Z2 thread. Unfortunately, Zen isn't exactly a mainstream mod producer. ProVape, and by extension, the ProVari, are mainstream and have enough clout in the market (via consumer demand) to ensure that the P3 thread standard is adopted. All it would take is Kanger releasing a P3 ProTank and Sovemesto making a P3 Kayfun to get the ball rolling.

That. ^^^

What tanks are being made? New products or adaptations of older products? Can you at least tell us what companies are involved?
You can skip mentioning Zen. It's obvious that a P3 Z-Atty will be made for this. If I liked Genisis attys, I'd be excited, but I don't, so that's that.

We are still working out the details, so I don't have that info yet. It's still very early

 

[DPLongo22]

Cartos are pretty much a dead format, except in cig-a-likes and the few diehards that cling to the cartotank setups.

Like guns and religi... well - like guns, PofM! And like the aforementioned, you'll need to pry my cartotanks from my cold, dead fingers.

 

[HBcorpse]

Like guns and religi... well - like guns, PofM! And like the aforementioned, you'll need to pry my cartotanks from my cold, dead fingers.

^^^THAT.

I don't think cartos are a "dead" format, just because mechs and drippers are so wildly popular...

Not only do I know PLENTY of people who use cartos, but there are very successful rebuildable carto style atomizers out there, i.e. Sophia, Diver...
Those atomizers are every bit as good as a Kayfun, or a dripper, and still use a carto tank setup...

Personally I can't wait to try everything I've ever used, on the new P3...
Who knows? Maybe all cartos needed was a better device to work on...?
I don't see why the next generation of VV/VW mods couldn't inspire someone to build a better carto.
Mech mods certainly aren't producing anything "new and exciting"...
New materials for better conductivity? Ooooh...
That's about all there is, other than the three different combinations of stainless steel, brass, and copper...

Not trying to start a brain vs. mech fight here...
Just defending cartos...

 

[Katdarling]

Defend away, HBcorpse, and let 'em try to pry, DPLongo.

I stand with you, vaping VERY happily on my karto tanks!