Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3

[HBcorpse]

If I ever become a Professional Vaper...

This would be on my list! (note, you must watch until he vapes it at least)

LOLz, Too Funny!!!

Jim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_TrA9NN-6Y

Literally everything that is going wrong with vaping...
Who...WHO needs 260 watts?!?
The vape industry is suffering from what I call "Spinal Tap syndrome"...
"These go to 11!"
Just because something goes to 260 watts does not mean it's a BETTER mod!!!
Just because a device goes to 20 watts does not mean it's an INFERIOR mod!!!

 

[mariusk]

People switched to vaping for a healthier life, and then these 200watts devices appeared. I'm not sure they are better than smoking.
However, their battery gauge.....

 

[AstroTurf]

People switched to vaping for a healthier life, and then these 200watts devices appeared. I'm not sure they are better than smoking.
However, their battery gauge.....

You and that battery gauge...

In all seriousness though, I hope they improve it to the level that you want.

It would just make it better for us all.

Oh, and, By the way, Welcome to the P3 Club!!!

Jim

 

[WillyZee]

IDK ... somehow, I see the ban hammer coming down on these extreme devices

 

[HBcorpse]

I just had a thought...
Earlier in the thread you (Mariusk) said "60% of what?"...and, I said "60% of battery charge left."
But I didn't think about the fact that I've measured fully charged NEW batteries, and the same batteries once the Provari says the charge is empty.

Any fully charged (AW) battery I've used has started at 4.1-4.2 volts, and ended at 3.4-3.5 volts, according to my Provari (v2.5) and my digital multimeter...
So, being that I've got a range of charge, from 3.4 volts to 4.2 volts (or 0.8 volts total), I can estimate that 50% on the battery gauge means I've got 0.4 volts left in my charge range...
And being that I vape fairly consistently within my atomizer inventory, I have been able to learn to judge how much vaping I can do with the remaining battery percentage displayed on my P3...the same way I came to know how long a 3.8 in the -Cb- option on my v2.5's would last me...

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, I'm just having a hard time comprehending how anyone could find the battery gauge to be useless or uninformative...that's not to say it's perfect...but I like it just the way it is!
Aaaaaand I also like the idea of a v2.5 mode...or at least the option to see the remaining voltage in the battery, like the v2.5...

 

[NicoHolic]

Here's a thought… in the sequence of values displayed by A up or A down, after the one with Battery Percentage, a new one could be added showing raw battery resting voltage. The word "Battery" need not change, just what's above it. This would preclude having to change the main display and would still get to the resting battery voltage faster than the old eleven clicks to CB.

 

[mariusk]

This is an interesting idea. However, you can't say that 50% is 3.8volts, because on a different atty these 50% may change to 60%, while your battery remains with the sane charge.

 

[HBcorpse]

IDK ... somehow, I see the ban hammer coming down on these extreme devices

Oh I can't believe it hasn't happened already!!!!
When I think about how many new vapers are being set up with mechanical mods, and sub-ohm builds, it scares me. My neighbors are some of those people!
The worst part is, they don't end up learning about battery and coil safety, because they just take their setups into their favorite shop, and the uneducated grommets there "take care of everything" for them...
I know the people at their shop are "uneducated" because I've taken my neighbors to the shop I go to, which is staffed by people who sit and study this stuff all day, and they point out all the mistakes made by the other shop...and I don't mean they pick apart the builds and setups based on point of opinion...they actually find faults in the builds and ohm/amp/output capabilities of the devices being used...
Needless to say, my neighbors weren't even impressed by the display of knowledge, because they'd never been taught to respect and care about the potential bomb in their hands!
I'm not some kind of elitist, but when I hear the term "average vaper" it is my neighbors that come to mind...because I think that's who the average vapers really are...they are the unwashed masses, being set up with cloned mechanical mods, substandard batteries, and trendy but poorly built sub-ohm coils...by kids who aren't old enough to buy alcohol!

 

[HBcorpse]

This is an interesting idea. However, you can't say that 50% is 3.8volts, because on a different atty these 50% may change to 60%, while your battery remains with the sane charge.

You are right. It will change based on your atomizer and/or how often you puff...but that just means you're using more or less of the available charge...

Like the car gas gauge...if you speed up, your range goes down. If you slow down, your range goes up.
If you already know how many miles you can go on a full tank, you'll be able to estimate how much gas you have left, by the range available, and based on your rate of travel. If it says you've got 200 miles left, at your current speed, you should know to fuel up before you've gone 200 miles.

 

[HBcorpse]

Here's a thought… in the sequence of values displayed by A up or A down, after the one with Battery Percentage, a new one could be added showing raw battery resting voltage. The word "Battery" need not change, just what's above it. This would preclude having to change the main display and would still get to the resting battery voltage faster than the old eleven clicks to CB.

In the words of the hip kids..."Trudat!"

 

[mariusk]

You are right. It will change based on your atomizer and/or how often you puff...but that just means you're using more or less of the available charge...

Like the car gas gauge...if you speed up, your range goes down. If you slow down, your range goes up.
If you already know how many miles you can go on a full tank, you'll be able to estimate how much gas you have left, by the range available, and based on your rate of travel. If it says you've got 200 miles left, at your current speed, you should know to fuel up before you've gone 200 miles.

You're right. This why in one of my previous posts I wrote that it shows the info in incompatible units. It's not showing the time remaining with your current setting, but some percentage.

 

[HBcorpse]

You're right. This why in one of my previous posts I wrote that it shows the info in incompatible units. It's not showing the time remaining with your current setting, but some percentage.

Well it's like I keep saying, you have to recognize the pattern in which you vape...and then determine how that applies to the battery percentage...
For example, I'm vaping 1.5ohms at 10 watts, and I have 56% left on my battery charge...it is 3:45pm where I am, and I know that I can get the rest of the night on the remaining charge...
Of course, I always bring an extra battery with me, just because I like being prepared...

 

[rondasherrill]

Here's a thought… in the sequence of values displayed by A up or A down, after the one with Battery Percentage, a new one could be added showing raw battery resting voltage. The word "Battery" need not change, just what's above it. This would preclude having to change the main display and would still get to the resting battery voltage faster than the old eleven clicks to CB.

That sounds great. As uninformative as some of you think raw voltage reading is(for some reason), I KNOW if I'm reading 3.6v that I have enough time to make my trip to the store 25 miles away. I don't want to carry batteries in my pocket every time I leave the house "just in case".

 

[The Ocelot]

Thanks for sharing.

Whats the answer?

Thanks. Jim

Light blinks, change battery.

 

[The Ocelot]

...
One thing I DEFINITELY agree with you on? The blinking light should come back...at least if only a selectable option...
Having seen that TheOcelot chooses to run her P3 with the display off, perhaps there could be an update with the option to run the P3 in "v2.5 mode"...with the display off, and the blinking light battery indicator/or battery voltage displayed upon command...backwards thinking for some, but a nice option for those who are institutionalized by the v2.5........

Your light doesn't blink when the battery needs to be changed? Mine does. I have the display off, but the firing button on. My button is set on aqua, but when it needs to be changed the button blinks red. The only ProVari I have that doesn't blink is the Stealth.

ETA: Perhaps I stand corrected. When the battery blinked I changed it, I didn't continue to vape it, so I don't know if the blink meant it was completely dead, which seems to be what others are saying.

 

[NicoHolic]

That sounds great. As uninformative as some of you think raw voltage reading is(for some reason), I KNOW if I'm reading 3.6v that I have enough time to make my trip to the store 25 miles away. I don't want to carry batteries in my pocket every time I leave the house "just in case".

I follow a simple rule that may help you. Never, EVER, leave the house without a fully charged battery and full juice--it takes me less than 60 seconds. That 25 mile trip can turn into several hours in the event of a traffic problem. I also keep in each vehicle, a disposable atty and a 510 carto primed with unflavored nic base, the condoms reinstalled and sealed with tape.

Just a thought.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hey no prob...

Cleaned all my mating areas with Super Lube increased my Provi IQ also.

giggle....

 

[serenity21899]

I have read parts of this thread regarding batteries, IQ, discharge rates, etc. No matter where I'm headed, I always leave the house with at least one extra battery and some juice. I also take an iStick or 2 with me because they are small. I only checked the IQ to see if my older batteries where, in fact, spent. I got some new batteries. When they die, I change them.

The reason I got the P3 (and the rest of my ProVaris) is simplicity and reliability. I just want to vape and not fuss with stuff too much. The P3 will tell you if there is a problem. I just don't need the details of every moment I vape. But that is just my opinion.

 

[Bronze]

My P2 meter was worthless too. It would start out at 4.1 and within short order it would be down to 3.4/3.5 and stay there for 80% of the cycle. I just quit using it. The P2 was also supposed to blink shortly before shutting down. Quit doing that too.

Vape it till it don't vape and then stick another battery in.

 

[rondasherrill]

I follow a simple rule that may help you. Never, EVER, leave the house without a fully charged battery and full juice--it takes me less than 60 seconds. That 25 mile trip can turn into several hours in the event of a traffic problem. I also keep in each vehicle, a disposable atty and a 510 carto primed with unflavored nic base, the condoms reinstalled and sealed with tape.

Just a thought.

If I wanted to be carrying spares all the time I'd go back to a cig-a-like. I went big battery mod + RTA so that I wouldn't need to do that. If I have to backpedal, then there is something fundamentally wrong. I live in a small town area. We don't have traffic problems like that.