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Have to mention this :grr:
As we argue over scrolling menus and USB ports, people across the world are losing more and more vaping rights. :(
I mean is it going to matter what the menu does if the US Government puts a 98% tax on it? They tried to make a Federal tax and Failed the first time, but plan to sneak it back in, and now state by state they are making it a State tax :mad:
Who likes numbers?
Add a 90% Federal tax on a Procyon and then add a 90% state tax :blink:
And that end number will still be low :?:
Seeing that most states are going to be somewhere between 91% and 98% :shock:

Just something to think about ;)
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Even if they succeed (and I doubt they will), in the long run, it will still be cheaper and healthier than cigarettes. I'm not going to give up, even if I have to scroll menus until the end of time.
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The name Procyon sounds like it could be a pharma name ... Honey, did ya get a chance to stop at the pharmacy, and grab my Procyon Creme?

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I think pharma Procyon would be an ointment, not a creme.

Big difference. Kinda like pants vs. slacks. ;)
 

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If she's a Provi woman then why did she sell her Radius? She skipped the P3 and she's also skipping the Procyon for exactly the same reason as me. In fact, the only thing Provape she owns are two 2.5's from back in the day when we switched to vaping. She hasn't used those for at least two years.

Have you thought about getting her a kitten or puppy?
 

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First of all I don't have to come with a solution. I'm a customer, not a employee.

No, but someone offering a suggestion is much more likely to be heard than everyone else who just complains. Who knows, you might just come up with something clever they'd never thought of before, and suddenly the next firmware update contains your suggestion.

And second, the solution is there for years, since the Provari v1 was released.

That went away with multi-level menus, and added features such as BACK, which saves a lot of time, rather than having to re-enter the menu for every setting you want to change. Also, that's what the preset memory is for.

I really don't care if a mod can handle 50 watts or 500 watts. The problem is elsewhere. I still didn't find one who delivers quality, reliability, is compact and built to last. And I owned more than a few..

Are you looking for a tube or a box? Your requirements above all say "Radius", but I recall you didn't like the battery changing design. Yes, it was meant to be captive and not changed with every charge, and for most people who have USB ports nearby all day, that works fine, but it's not for everyone. I've been shocked and burned so many times by mech mods and poor connections that I have a better understanding of why ProVape places connectivity so high in importance. My Atomo button would both shock me and heat up very quickly if the connection wasn't tightened very often. My Nemesis would shock me across the 'beauty ring' when threads needed to be cleaned.

Anyway, never can please 100% of the people 100% of the time. I just consider myself very lucky holding a Procyon after asking so many times for ProVape to come out with an 18650-only tube at higher wattage.

I don't know how it's on the Procyon, but up to the P3 the electronics is exposed anyway.

You were asking for a tube connection high enough to plug in a USB cable, which would directly expose the electronics (to touch, not just visible). The P3's first connection is about 3 inches down. You'd never be able to plug a USB cable in from 3 inches away. That's what my comment was about.

And regarding the safety issue you mentioned, people could use something less than an 18650 even now, by using some spacers widely available.

Sure, they could, but they know they're doing something that was not intended. Most people aren't battery experts and assume that if it fits, it can be used. In a lawsuit, adding spacers would be seen as a modification and ProVape wouldn't be liable as it took all reasonable measures to ensure end-user safety. But, when you idiot-proof something, the world builds a bigger idiot.
 

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Btw, Vapor Joes predicted that 2016 will be the year of the tube mods return

Interesting. Well, we shall see I suppose. I'd been itching to go back to a tube mod after using my SXmini and Radius all the time, and then I got the Procyon email - perfect timing. There aren't a lot of high-power tube mods out there, so perhaps the Procyon will do better than expected in the market.
 

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But@vape360 why not TC? And it seems a little bit long because only 18650, would be better something with 26650 or 26500....

Vape360 already stated that ProVape is working on a 9x 18650 tube mod. Just think of the marketing possibilities? Use it as a walking cane, self defense, change the channel on the TV when you can't find the remote...
 

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Vape360 already stated that ProVape is working on a 9x 18650 tube mod. Just think of the marketing possibilities? Use it as a walking cane, self defense, change the channel on the TV when you can't find the remote...
Dang it...

I wanted a 10 battery mod.

Sheesh!!!
 

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Have you thought about getting her a kitten or puppy?
We already have 6 cats ;)

You were asking for a tube connection high enough to plug in a USB cable, which would directly expose the electronics (to touch, not just visible). The P3's first connection is about 3 inches down. You'd never be able to plug a USB cable in from 3 inches away. That's what my comment was about.
All they have to do is make a connector with a long enough pin so it can make contact with the battery contact on the board that screws in the bottom. Basically the same connection you find on the serial cable to comes with the updater box. Fit a USB connector on the other end, change the connection protocol and let people update the device themselves. It's what they should have done from the start.
 

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That went away with multi-level menus, and added features such as BACK, which saves a lot of time

It can still work using the same concept.
A few clicks to get into the main menu, click to your option, if it's a setting you wait for a sec and get a chance to change it. If it's a sub-menu, you wait for a second and get inside it. And so on.. It can work with an unlimited number of sub-menus.
I understand you may not like it this way, this is why I ask to be given a choice, and not to remove the scrolling feature altogether.

Btw, the Procyon could work perfectly with a single menu, there are many unneeded features (at least in my opinion) that forced Provape to create sub-menus. That puff counter for example (or cigarette saver), even China stopped doing that.
The memory banks - it takes the same amount of time to choose a bank as it takes to change the setting you wanted. That boost option - it's all about making your first puff (with a cold coil) to be as good as your second one. This could be calculated by the device based on the power setting and coil resistance, and boost accordingly. I'm not feeling any difference between the settings anyway..

Sure, they could, but they know they're doing something that was not intended. Most people aren't battery experts and assume that if it fits, it can be used. In a lawsuit, adding spacers would be seen as a modification and ProVape wouldn't be liable as it took all reasonable measures to ensure end-user safety. But, when you idiot-proof something, the world builds a bigger idiot.

There's always something they can do, for example - design a different threading for the upper part of the tube, so people won't be able to use the P3 shorter tubes.
 
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All they have to do is make a connector with a long enough pin so it can make contact with the battery contact on the board that screws in the bottom. Basically the same connection you find on the serial cable to comes with the updater box. Fit a USB connector on the other end, change the connection protocol and let people update the device themselves. It's what they should have done from the start.
What are the power requirements of the chip to be at when it is being programmed. Is the usb current able to power up the chipset?
 

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Interesting. Well, we shall see I suppose. I'd been itching to go back to a tube mod after using my SXmini and Radius all the time, and then I got the Procyon email - perfect timing. There aren't a lot of high-power tube mods out there, so perhaps the Procyon will do better than expected in the market.
My SX Mini and my Radius are by far my favorite 2 mods out of the 20 or so I own. Don't get me wrong, I love my 11 Provari tube mods, but my perfect mod has to go to 40+w and I know of no other mods that are as built as well as the SX or Radius.

My 2.5's and Classics get used a ton at 13w-ish every day but for subohming, my P3's @ 0.5ohms/20w isn't reality for me as a 0.5ohm coil may read higher in the P3, the EQ might not like one battery as much as another, the spring may need to be stretched, etc. Total P.I.T.A. and IMO one of the worst devices that are advertised as subohm capable.

The 50w Procyon should likely do very well as it is the best of both worlds.... old school form factor that many people may think is cool, ProVape quality and most importantly, reasonable wattage for most subohm-ers. I just hate the size of an 18650 ProVape tube mod for daily use....
 
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