I wish that a ONE PIECE RING was available to go from P3 to 510, which would alleviate this locknut issue...@Vape360
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That's what I did, only with pliers. The problem is the metal used to make pennies is very soft, and mine are all bent and have chunks missing where they fit into the grooves of the P3 adapter. The P3 adapter is fine - it's the coins that are all bent, twisted, and have chunks missing now.
Ditto, x10
I take one of those teeny tiny drill bit pieces hubs has in a box and lay it across the grooves...its harder than a penny and you can get more leverage on it from both sides.
I tried to break the bond with a marine grade SS washer and Vice grips to hold the washer, you will not be able to unscrew the center portion until you break the locking action of the outer ring. Believe me, I tried...
Drill bits are hardened, and can suddenly shatter and send pieces flying! They are not suited to impact or prying, this is dangerous and could lead to cuts or puncture wounds.
Makes me glad I've pretty much completely switched to P3 threaded tanks. But John, maybe spray some WD40 in there and see if that helps loosen things up enough to remove the P3 attachment.
From the Provape site:
The P3 510 connection is stuck to my tank!
Krys July 21, 2015 • Troubleshooting / Miscellaneous Problems
Our first suggestion is to take a small coin and insert it into the wells on the bottom of the 510 ring. You can then use the coin as leverage to twist the ring counterclockwise and remove the 510 ring. If you are having a hard time gripping the bottom of the tank, try using the bottom of a mouse pad to hold the bottom of the tank while you twist the ring off.
If that doesn't work, then try putting the tank into the freezer for about 5 - 10 minutes and try again. The cold air will make the metal contract and may loosen it just enough to twist off. You can then use the coin as leverage to twist the ring counterclockwise and remove the 510 ring.
If you are still unable to remove the 510 ring, then our last suggestion is to start off by putting the tank back onto the P3. You should see a gap between the beauty ring and the top of the P3. Using a mouse pad or something with a soft grip, turn the beauty ring clockwise to tighten it back down and relieve the pressure. You should then be able to remove the tank like normal.
In the future, to avoid this from happening again, take note of where you're gripping your tank to remove it from the top of your P3. If you're removing the beauty ring and the tank at the same time, you'll likely run into the same situation where the threads lock up. This is because the 510 threading on your tank and the threading on the beauty ring move at different rates. When you remove both together, the ring moves up quicker than the tank, causing pressure on the threading and the locking you've experienced.
If you successfully have the threading removed from the tank and on your P3, I would also suggest taking a small coin (I use a penny) to tighten the inner thread ring onto your P3. Don't worry, it can take a bit of pressure without any damage. This will prevent the threading from coming off too easily when you remove your tank.
After giving these suggestions a try, if you are still unable to remove the 510 ring from your tank, contact our customer service team by submitting a ticket and we can arrange for a repair if necessary.
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* Red text, the threads of the 510 and the beauty ring have different pitch rates, this is why the locking action occurs. If they needed to put this on the contact us page, there must be more than a few people experiencing this isuue.
Opening a ticket, yes, sending it in might be the easiest option for most folks, and Provape can afford to muscle those rings off, toss them in the trash, and slap a fresh one back on there and ship it back. They've got thousands of them little rings
The P3 510 connection is stuck to my tank!
Krys July 21, 2015 • Troubleshooting / Miscellaneous Problems
Our first suggestion is to take a small coin and insert it into the wells on the bottom of the 510 ring. You can then use the coin as leverage to twist the ring counterclockwise and remove the 510 ring. If you are having a hard time gripping the bottom of the tank, try using the bottom of a mouse pad to hold the bottom of the tank while you twist the ring off.
If that doesn't work, then try putting the tank into the freezer for about 5 - 10 minutes and try again. The cold air will make the metal contract and may loosen it just enough to twist off. You can then use the coin as leverage to twist the ring counterclockwise and remove the 510 ring.
If you are still unable to remove the 510 ring, then our last suggestion is to start off by putting the tank back onto the P3. You should see a gap between the beauty ring and the top of the P3. Using a mouse pad or something with a soft grip, turn the beauty ring clockwise to tighten it back down and relieve the pressure. You should then be able to remove the tank like normal.
In the future, to avoid this from happening again, take note of where you're gripping your tank to remove it from the top of your P3. If you're removing the beauty ring and the tank at the same time, you'll likely run into the same situation where the threads lock up. This is because the 510 threading on your tank and the threading on the beauty ring move at different rates. When you remove both together, the ring moves up quicker than the tank, causing pressure on the threading and the locking you've experienced.
If you successfully have the threading removed from the tank and on your P3, I would also suggest taking a small coin (I use a penny) to tighten the inner thread ring onto your P3. Don't worry, it can take a bit of pressure without any damage. This will prevent the threading from coming off too easily when you remove your tank.
After giving these suggestions a try, if you are still unable to remove the 510 ring from your tank, contact our customer service team by submitting a ticket and we can arrange for a repair if necessary.
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* Red text, the threads of the 510 and the beauty ring have different pitch rates, this is why the locking action occurs. If they needed to put this on the contact us page, there must be more than a few people experiencing this isuue.
Opening a ticket, yes, sending it in might be the easiest option for most folks, and Provape can afford to muscle those rings off, toss them in the trash, and slap a fresh one back on there and ship it back. They've got thousands of them little rings
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If it's not a bottom filling tank, consider leaving the rings attached, and buy some new rings...
Then you'll have yourself a P3-whatever tank is stuck!
Then you'll have yourself a P3-whatever tank is stuck!
I must be missing something --- anyone ever heard of a screwdriver? Afterall, that's what we are using the penny and dime tool for.
On the lock nut thingy -- Brute force removing the ring, not the screwy part, is what worked for me.
Thanks Enaud for the quote from the site. Useful info there, some of which I somehow discovered myself. I have noticed that I have been paying attention to not be unwinding the beauty ring along with the tank since my dilemma and I haven't had it happen again.
On the lock nut thingy -- Brute force removing the ring, not the screwy part, is what worked for me.
Thanks Enaud for the quote from the site. Useful info there, some of which I somehow discovered myself. I have noticed that I have been paying attention to not be unwinding the beauty ring along with the tank since my dilemma and I haven't had it happen again.
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Bingo!
This ring has been sanded to remove the burrs from the brute force needed to break the bond, those bite marks were deep. Untill you have one really lock up on you, you just won't believe it, I never saw this one coming myself...
That's a great idea, except what led me to removing the tank in the first place was an overcurrent error. Evidently the tank was tightened down so far that it was shorting out the 510 connector. So in my case, putting the tank back on the Radius doesn't do me any good.
I have a large set of screwdrivers - some that might make you say "oh my"
None of the blades are wide enough to fit the 510 adapter "coin slots".Excellent suggestion from several people here - I hadn't tried that yet. Makes sense the beauty ring is acting as a locking ring, and doing a @#$% fine job of it too!!
Unfortunately, with the SubTanks, the ONLY place to grip it is the bottom 1/8", and the beauty ring is right there too. We shouldn't need tools to remove our tanks from our mods. This is definitely an area for improvement, and the suggestion of a SINGLE PIECE (@Vape360) instead of the 510/beauty ring combo, is the answer.
I'm saving the glass sections for my ZAP and ZAU atties 
I used the Radius USB charger last night and I have no problem using it moving forward. Seems to work will and charges pretty quick.
The USB port seems solid on the Radius which would lead me to believe it will last.
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