Official Squape R[eloaded] thread!

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I'm buying the yihi m class the new one.
Heard a lot of people prefer it to the dna's...
Will be using that everyday as it is excellent!

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I really haven't heard much about the new Yihi, but I haven't been looking either. But I do love my dna 40. I would certainly be interested in it for a second device. I wonder how good it is a temperature protection. I'm going to need to read up.
 

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Interesting, blows it away. I love TP and it works awesome on my Flask, so I'm dying to find out what makes it so much better.

So I pulled the trigger and bought the Calix. Looks like it might be great with nickel. Man....i ordered like 20 mins ago and I already have a Fed Ex tracking number. Thats just insane. They're as quick if not quicker than Vape Rev.
 

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Looks like I've got to do me some reading. How long has this thing been on the market. I guess long enough for people to be making these kinds of statement. And i wonder if those making these statements have both to compare.

All I know is I have absolutely no complaints with TP, and as all of you know from my previous comments I think it's awesome. I'm a firm believer in this tech going forward.
 

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Looks like I've got to do me some reading. How long has this thing been on the market. I guess long enough for people to be making these kinds of statement. And i wonder if those making these statements have both to compare.

All I know is I have absolutely no complaints with TP, and as all of you know from my previous comments I think it's awesome. I'm a firm believer in this tech going forward.
It's been out for a few days but reviewers have had them much longer and they all say it's. Really really good!
I'm not buying it mainly for that but just that always wanted a sx350 and this is the new one I've been waiting so long for...Just waiting for my colour to come in stock and boom the baby is mine!
Just waiting for my b deck to arrive at cloud9...Maybe tomorrow :)

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Cheap might be a smart way to go. Pick up that DNA 40 device that's under a hundred bucks and see what you think. I think you'll love it.

I agree start off with something inexpensive if your not sure, I just took my friend to pick up an HB40 for his first regulated mod. With the bonus of TP, I think you'll like it and for the price I don't think you can beat it. And you won't have a ton of cash in it if you don't.
 

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flask is in and as expected this thing is awesome, thanks to those who pushed me over the edge!

regarding the deck removal issue i'm not sure if this was posted in here but looks like a good non destructive method https://www.flickr.com/photos/37269790@N00/15684587816/ my B is on hand and have some syringes arriving tomorrow so will have a crack at it then and report results

how we going with those B deck builds btw?
 
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flask is in and as expected this thing is awesome, thanks to those who pushed me over the edge!

regarding the deck removal issue i'm not sure if this was posted in here but looks like a good non destructive method https://www.flickr.com/photos/37269790@N00/15684587816/ my B is in and have some syringes arriving tomorrow so will have a crack at it then and report results



how we going with those B deck builds btw?

Nice! You're going to love the flask, i had to send mine in for service. And have counting the days till I get it back, it scheduled to be delivered tomorrow yay!
The Squape is a perfect fit for the flask, here's my current B deck build it working great.
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flask is in and as expected this thing is awesome, thanks to those who pushed me over the edge!

regarding the deck removal issue i'm not sure if this was posted in here but looks like a good non destructive method https://www.flickr.com/photos/37269790@N00/15684587816/ my B is on hand and have some syringes arriving tomorrow so will have a crack at it then and report results

how we going with those B deck builds btw?
Dude....you're going to love love love your Flask. And the Squape looks amazing on it.

I don't have any suggestions or recommendations yet because I don't have my B deck yet. But tomorrow I should, other than I probably won't build it until Tues when I finally get a day off work. But someone posted some nice build photos just a page or two back that should give you a pretty good idea.

I do plan on sharing my build photos once I get this new deck, and it will be nickel of course. And I expect you all to do the same ;)
 

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Man that sucks you're having issues with your 510 screw. I'm trying to understand what's really going on with it. Is it wobbly and move around, or does it turn and screw it's self back in as you're tightening your atty? And a totally silly question but is your o-ring in place.
Yeah, the pin is firm and stays in place. No wobble & no tightening in when screwed in or out. Since I got them, all I've used is my DNA40 flask & the Squape R.

If I screw the squape's center pin in flush or deeper, I get a higher resistance.
If I unscrew it so it protrudes, I get a lower resistance.

Initially I sort of liked this as I was able to dial up or down the resistance to help in avoiding temp limits. But consequently, I've damaged my brass connection on the flask. (posted pics pages back in this thread).

The first round of teflon helped some with this. Haven't gotten around to adding more but will try tomorrow. I don't clean my pin out as much as I should, but that would contribute to an increasing resistance.

For the last 3+ months I've been doing 3mm (W-deck channel size) 28g tempered nickel with spaced coils wrapped tight and I get around 0.12ohms. Sometimes 0.13 or 0.14. I don't really care what my resistance is so long as I get a nice satisfying vape which means not hitting temp control. You'd think that nine 3mm wraps of 28g might make something higher than 0.12 especially with a not so regularly cleaned center pin.
 

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It was my understanding that temp control worked by looking at the change in resistance as the coil heats, and whatever the initial reading is shouldn't matter so long as it's a correct reading?

I've been running into a fair bit of temp control myself but thought it to likely be a result of underwicking.

I wasn't able to leave the B deck lying around until tomorrow and got some things out to attempt to remove it, thought I'd give it a good tug first for good measure and almost lost it out the window, came off bloody easily. I have 10 wraps 29g ni with fairly wide spacing in there reading 0.17, and a good amount of cotton fitted so as to remain below the air hole, at the moment I can't touch temp no matter how hard I try, I did give it a good prime though so we'll see how it goes over the course of the evening. If it continues going strong I'll snap a few pics for you guys.

edit: btw I'm running 30W as something of a stress test for the B deck
 
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Ok, why is everyone so worried about hitting TP? I thought if you set a temp, it doesn't go above that temp, so even if you get temp protection your still Vaping at 420f or 500f or whatever....?

For me its if I can see it activating I feel the build could be better, and as far as I know TP means it isn't wicking quickly enough at the power setting for the duration.. I'm fairly new though so if I'm wrong let me know
 

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Ok, why is everyone so worried about hitting TP? I thought if you set a temp, it doesn't go above that temp, so even if you get temp protection your still Vaping at 420f or 500f or whatever....?
My biggest issue when I started using nickel and temp protection was me. I had all these preconceived ideas on how I thought it was supposed to work and behave.

Prior to nickel, I'd never subohm'd this low. No where close. I thought I would need to throw all this power at it in order to get a good vape. Noop - 15 - 17 watts works really well. Nice warmth and lots of vapor. You can go high, and I have thrown a lot of power at it, but you don't need to.

I also thought in order to do it right I had to keep my temp at 410 - 420 or some said they had it even lower. Even though now I can easily keep it within that range, but if I don't it's not a failure.

It seems what you hear most is, it won't burn my cotton if I keep it at this temp. I can't remember the last time I burnt my cotton on on anything. The most important thing is keeping your eliquid below a certain temp for health reasons, I guess. What is the magic number. I don't think we know yet. But my base average for temp is about 450deg. But I have gone as high as 500 too. Depending on my build. And that's not a failure.

You don't want to be constantly hitting temp. That would drive me absolutely crazy. So don't set these ridiculous numbers and then wonder why you're always hitting temp. Have your build work for you. If you're hitting temp - either up your temp some or lower your watts. Get to a happy medium. Not every build is going to react the same way. At least that's what I've noticed. And you do get better at judging your builds.

There is definitely a learning curve with nickel and temp protection, more so than with Kanthal . And it doesn't matter what type of TP device you have, the learning curve is going to be the same. Accept that and learn from it and have fun with it. I've been doing nickel now for a few months and I'm finally feeling as comfortable with it as I do Kanthal. In fact I prefer it over Kanthal but I only have one flask so I still use Kanthal quite a bit.

Another thing too is there's going to be some atty's that just won't work with nickel no matter how hard you try. And believe me I tried everything to get my Russian 91 % to work with nickel and it was frustrating as heck.

My Squape is awesome with nickel. And I can't wait to get my new B deck today. My Lemo worked good with nickel. But the Lemo feels so cheap I can't stand to use it anymore. But find out if your atty handles nickel. If it doesn't then don't use it with nickel.

I'm going to say this again, just one more time maybe. Harden nickel is your best friend with temp protection. Tempered nickel is where it's at. (for me anyways) That's when most of my frustration with nickel went away.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, or saying this is better than that. Just go into this knowing there's a learning curve, and not everything you try is going to work. But as you learn this stuff, it really becomes your go to.

And probably even more important than anything - share your knowledge. Not to sound too cheesy, but I love coming here and reading about what's new and shiny, what works and what doesn't.

By the way, have I said how much I love my Squape lately. It really is an awesome atty. I'd recommend it to anybody. I really do wanna get another. But thinking I'll wait since I just bought the Calix. I'll let you all know how it handles nickel once I get it.
 

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B deck showed up from Vaperev this morning. Used my 30ga tempered Ni200 for the first time. 2.5mm, 10 wraps, wicked with rayon - my ohm meter reads it as .156, my Hana .17. Have the Hana set to 18W, 450deg. I'm not totally sure I'm getting the flavor I was getting from the W deck but that may be in my head. I'll have to play with some more builds and wicking. This is only second nickel build ever so I'm sure I can refine my technique.

The B deck is ridiculously easy to build... but, it's not like the W deck was a tough build, lol. The B deck seems made for nickel builds.

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