Official Squape R[eloaded] thread!

[Phone Guy]

Rikk, sorry for your troubles. I can't offer much advice since I'm not a temp control guy yet, but I'll voice my suggestions even though some have already been said.

Make sure the none of the ematel coated deck is touching any of the coil

Make sure your posts are screwed into the base well.

Verify your posts are straight, and not touching the ematal base. (the posts that the screws secure into and come up thru the ematal base/deck)

The only other thing I can possibly think of is switch the screws to the opposite post, maybe the screws themselves are ever so slightly out of tolerance. Switching them from left/right?

Again, I'm sure my suggestions aren't helpful but it's all I could think of.

 

[IanDVaypes]

Rikk- If you stuff this into your threads of the 510 center pin and thread the center pin over it, you'll never ever ever ever have resistance fluctuations. Ever.

 

[nevillebartos]

what's that you got there mate?

 

[SeniorBoy]

@Rikk - I feel your pain. Trust me! I think you have covered all the bases. Not sure but, vape the build and then after you vape it let it sit for over one hour at room temperature. Brandon told me that after one hour of inactivity the "normalize" feature kicks in but to tell you the truth, Iv'e never tested it and their could even be an "intermittent" bug left in the chip. I'm just scratching at straws. Good luck with your build and I would also maybe suggest that you try a support ticket with Evolv.

 

[Rikk]

Rikk- If you stuff this into your threads of the 510 center pin and thread the center pin over it, you'll never ever ever ever have resistance fluctuations. Ever.

Yea, what is that stuff?

 

[nevillebartos]

Here's my current build, some wraps of tempered ni200 reading .15, a little mangled as I've been fiddling with coil height above the air hole. Wick is japanese cotton, I went with a large amount this time and am getting decent result on the B, un-TPable at 22W with 80% VG RY4.. Still some refinement to be done.

 

[Rikk]

So it vaped great, just much warmer than normal until I went to bed last night. This morning before I hit it I decided to unscrew my 510 PIN a bit. I usually have it almost flush with the bottom of the deck. Now it's protruding about 1mm. I could feel a tiny bit of pressure when I tighten it down on my Flask. Hit fire and I'm at .13ohm's.

For months my 510 PIN has never given me fits. And I completely remove it about once a week to clean the threads. And then tighten it up flush with the deck and my readings were always the same. The Squape has always been my nickel machine. I could almost build it with my eyes closed and know exactly what it would give me. That's why I was so taken back has it just always worked the same way every single time.

Now I'm going to keep an eye on my 510 screw to see if it changes resistance if I tighten or loosen it. And if that's all it was/or is....wow.

Plus I think what @phone guy said makes a lot of sense too. I had my W deck in for months and I never removed my deck screws, so maybe just from changing decks and switching the deck screws around, it was just enough of a changed to throw it off and now it's all about just finding it's new normal. Or maybe the Vape God's were just having their way with me yesterday. [emoji12]

 

[SeniorBoy]

Glad the issue is fixed.

I suspect the Vape God's were testing you as they sometimes love to due with the rest of us. Off topic just a tad but I never could explain why suddenly half way through a tank one of my KFs started producing dry hits. Like almost 2 years of rock solid builds and never a dry hit. I could probably due it in my sleep. Wired to just the way I like it. With no changes in my procedures. I've got a football team of them. Go figure! Tore the beast down and everything looked perfect. Cleaned and rewicked + dry burn and all systems are go. To this day I still can't explain why and I clean, service, and rebuild these toppers on a regular basis and through trial and error know just about every single quirk and trick in the book. Live and learn!

I had actually forgotten about my encounter with the Vape God's until your last post.

Happy vape!

 

[Rikk]

So. Some good news. Did some choirs and come back to my Squape and holding steady at .13. And this is after additional refinement.

And this is the main reason I enjoy nickel. This coil is the one I replaced yesterday when I was changing out decks. This is after 4 full Squape tanks of dark juice that even gunks up my chimney. All I did was a quick pass through under the faucet because I was chucking this coil and it's amazing how clean the coils stay when kept at temp. The cotton looked pretty damn good too. My Kanthal never looks like this after a couple of tanks. It's usually encrusted much more than this.

 

[Millah]

Rikk, my Squape has always given me resistance fluctuations based on my 510 pin, as well as the device I'm firing on. Some devices I have to extend my 510 to stabilize the resistance, some devices I have to screw in the 510 almost flush to stabilize. Oh yea, and also sometimes when I wash out my base, my once stable resistance is no longer stable on the same device and I have to play around with the 510 pin. I imagine that removing your deck for the first time might have removed some kind of wizardry or magic that was keeping your resistance so stable, and now that you've changed some factor in the tank, its different

My point being, anytime you discover some odd resistance, 9 outta 10 times its the connection somewhere in the circuit. Whether thats the post screws or the 510 pin, play around and adjust every point of connection until you resolve the issue.

 

[dems86]

So, everyone who got the B-deck, how is it?

 

[nj1001]

Yeah, IanD what is that stuff????? Looks like a paintbrush


Rikk - I knew it had to be either the center pin or creosote on any threaded pin on it. Just weird how it wasn't a gradual thing.

 

[Rikk]

Rikk, my Squape has always given me resistance fluctuations based on my 510 pin, as well as the device I'm firing on. Some devices I have to extend my 510 to stabilize the resistance, some devices I have to screw in the 510 almost flush to stabilize. Oh yea, and also sometimes when I wash out my base, my once stable resistance is no longer stable on the same device and I have to play around with the 510 pin. I imagine that removing your deck for the first time might have removed some kind of wizardry or magic that was keeping your resistance so stable, and now that you've changed some factor in the tank, its different

My point being, anytime you discover some odd resistance, 9 outta 10 times its the connection somewhere in the circuit. Whether thats the post screws or the 510 pin, play around and adjust every point of connection until you resolve the issue.

Yea, lesson learned for sure. I think I become so complacent because it had been so good to me for so long that when it finally threw me a boner I didn't know what to do with it. [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

But its been real good to me all day long. And well it should after yesterday [emoji12]

 

[Rikk]

So, everyone who got the B-deck, how is it?

Well currently I hate it. But I think I'll revisit it later. As I was thinking about it this afternoon, my W deck works so good for me, what was the B deck going to offer me that the W deck can't. I'm starting to think that maybe it was a silly purchase. At least for me.

My W deck offers an incredible vape, lots of vapor and never any dry hits. So I'm left scratching my head a bit. Maybe if I was looking for something different, I should have went with the D deck. But I'm just not really into duel coils. But that could change in the future.

So what was I hoping to gain from this deck the W couldn't give me. Maybe larger coils. But with tempered nickel, I don't need larger coils anymore. 6/7 wraps fit great for 30ga and 8/9 wraps fits perfect for 29ga. Both give me .15ohm's and a great vape. I think I was just excited to buy something new.

Maybe everyone else will have an awesome experience with it.

 

[Phone Guy]

We all get excited about new products

 

[nevillebartos]

So, everyone who got the B-deck, how is it?

Straight off the bat it's performing as good and better than the W which I've tried to tweak a fair bit.. I think with some time and tweaking the B will be a much better performer for my style. What I'm really liking is the space available allowing me to tune the height of the coil over the air hole.

 

[nj1001]

Ugh, I can't wait to get mine. Been dying to add more coils forever & with the added bonus of a larger sopping wet wick!
And experiment with larger coils without being limited by the 3mm limit.
Maybe even actually get to try the screw method sometime.

Definitely a lot of new options for sure.

 

[nevillebartos]

Ugh, I can't wait to get mine. Been dying to add more coils forever & with the added bonus of a larger sopping wet wick!
And experiment with larger coils without being limited by the 3mm limit.
Maybe even actually get to try the screw method sometime.

Definitely a lot of new options for sure.

I started out with the screw method but have since gone to a smooth post, the threads on the screw i was using meant a pretty spaced out coil and im not sure if that's the way to go... going to try a tighter 3mm now so let's see

 

[nevillebartos]

I started out with the screw method but have since gone to a smooth post, the threads on the screw i was using meant a pretty spaced out coil and im not sure if that's the way to go... going to try a tighter 3mm now so let's see

wooahh, 8 wraps 3mm ID tightly spaced has my temps looking a lot more stable and awesome production, I'll put it through its paces and build a few more this way and snap a pic when it looks nice

 

[Pushbutton]

First impressions on the D(ouble) deck. I got the steel nano-kit as well, since i was expecting flavor to be increased by it.

AWG 26 0.40mm A1 around 2.5mm drillbit, 8 wraps @30-33W (0.54Ohm final resistance)

Pros:
- Good vapor production as expected.
- Good flavor, need to play more with coil heights.
- Appears to wick my home-made 100% VG juice well enough.

So-So/Cons:
- Not a super easy build anymore.
- 2.2mm airhole too tight, 3.1mm a bit on the airy side (for my build) with slightly diminished flavor. Would wish for a slotted AFC with this deck.
- It's not my Origen V3 dripper.



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