Official Squape R[eloaded] thread!

[Junny89]

I've been so busy with work and some long ... days that I haven't been able to keep up with my reading. Man you miss a day or two here and it's next to impossible to catch up - things move so fast. But this thread has quieted down a bit. I guess everyone is just loving there Squape's. I know I am. I'm also loving my spaced Kanthal builds too....a lot actually. Good call whom ever recommend them to me.

Junny you definitely have a hot spot if your coil and wick are darker on the one side. I've had that happen before. When it happens I usually just rebuild and start over. Saves time and frustration.

Everyone is leading you in the right direction. Try to make sure your wraps are evenly spaced. After looking at your picture I thought the wraps on the left were touching too. Photos can be misleading though. And I wouldn't recommend dry firing nickel. Makes it all funky'd up.

I spend some time after wrapping my coil to make sure the spacing looks good and nothings touching. Rarely do I get hot spots any more. But it does the time and practice.

Thanks! ill try and recoil and see if it makes any difference. I am trying it on a dripper, think i should change it to another atty and try.

I do find the W deck similar to the KF4 and GT2.. That the wicking part take a bit of careful placement, or it may not wick enough(I chain vape) .. For the B deck, once I figured out the coiling legs to go around the screws from the inside, and ample cotton, I had no issues whatsoever.. No leaks or dry hits at all. I left mine sitting on the table for days and no leaks too! just make sure there is enough cotton to cover the 4 holes and it functions much like an auto rda..

My coil is exactly the same as yours. coil on the inside around the screw clockwise. Still didnt make a difference. I put ample cotton inside and still lots of gurgling which leads to excessive leaking.

I've been using my R (s), dubbed the "SQump", with my B deck exclusively since I got it and it is fantastic. Vaping with this set up using kanthal has been an absolute joy, a denser and juicier vape that's a little better on flavor, and my coils can go a few extra days before rewicking is needed, which was an unexpected surprise.

I never got leaking or gurgling out of my W deck using the SQR but I would occasionally get dry hits when chain vaping, the B deck solved all of that - and still no leaking. I agree with chia, the B deck works like an auto-dripper. Though that added juice flow combined with the reduced tank capacity means my SQump can't get me through an entire day and night, but its a trade off I'm happy to make for the superior vape and sleeker profile.

Once my DNA40 gets back from RMA I'll start using the SQR to experiment with TC which has been kicking my .....

Please post some photos as i want to see where im going wrong!

 

[chia]

Hmmm.. For that I m not sure.. Did u stuff the cotton to the corners below the posts, like really filling up, no empty space on the deck itself? I used like easily more than twice the amount/length of cotton compared to my other attys. That and the clockwise screwing of coil legs solved the leaking for me.. I also normally use the 3rd smallest air hole. The 2nd for me will have some leaks.
Your coils, which orientation are they? Like are the legs going downwards the screws or just flat horizontal when you secure the coil?

 

[Junny89]

Hmmm.. For that I m not sure.. Did u stuff the cotton to the corners below the posts, like really filling up, no empty space on the deck itself? I used like easily more than twice the amount/length of cotton compared to my other attys. That and the clockwise screwing of coil legs solved the leaking for me.. I also normally use the 3rd smallest air hole. The 2nd for me will have some leaks.
Your coils, which orientation are they? Like are the legs going downwards the screws or just flat horizontal when you secure the coil?

yes ive used extra cotton , double i normally use.
i cant use too much, as if it goes higher than the air hole in the center then it will leak.
mine is just below that line, all packed in to corners.
ive always done the legs so they are on the inside of the srcrew.
urmm they are at the bottom, so the coil is at the top. its easier to mount the coil this way.
does that make sense? so the bottom of the coil are the legs thus being flat and at the top is the coil.
i will take some pics when i get home actually so you can see.

 

[chia]

yes ive used extra cotton , double i normally use.
i cant use too much, as if it goes higher than the air hole in the center then it will leak.
mine is just below that line, all packed in to corners.
ive always done the legs so they are on the inside of the srcrew.
urmm they are at the bottom, so the coil is at the top. its easier to mount the coil this way.
does that make sense? so the bottom of the coil are the legs thus being flat and at the top is the coil.
i will take some pics when i get home actually so you can see.

Sounds like the way I did mine.. But mine doesn't leak and yours leak.. Could there be other factors in play? At my wits end here.. Hopefully others have got better ideas? Maybe the wattage/temp setting?

 

[Junny89]

I am using the bellvape cap on it. That's the only diff.
Coil is around 1.2omhs and at 12-14watts.

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[drippaboi]

Jun, that's def more cotton in the well than I use. It look like your juice might be overflowing into the center air hole once the cotton gets fully saturated. I make the wick bend 90deg straight down from the coil to the deck then I place the tails into the contours of the well. The air hole has a visible lip above the top of my cotton bed.

 

[drippaboi]

So I didn't use the coil-jig groves on this build so that I could fork my wicks, making "X" wicks with 2 tails on each side, one to each juice feed. I used the same principal as I did when using "S" wicks, which was straight from the coil to the deck then out to the juice holes. I like to keep the cotton bed well below the air inlet chimney and I've noticed a better vape if I smoosh the coil down into the cup a little after the wick is in place. Leads are on the bottom trapped clockwise.

 

[chia]

Try 15 - 18 W? Not so sure Abt the cotton tho.. Looks like more juice than cotton in the well, mine looks more like drippaboi's.. When the cotton absorbs the juice it is actually puff up pretty high, almost level or just touching the air hole.
So add more cotton and pump up the W? No harm tryin and I dun think you can do worse ..

 

[Junny89]

That's the things, I've tried less cotton too so on this build i thought I'd try extra wick. Still nothing.
Usually it's well under the lip of the cup.
Does putting the coil closer in the cup increase throat hit etc?
Also what do you mean the way i bring the wick down? I have to bend it to get it to cover the 4 juice slots....

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[chia]

How Abt you try using a 'wider' coil? Like a spaced coil perhaps? Just so when you fold the cotton down to the well it stays clear of the air hole, not 'resting' on the lip if the hole?

 

[Junny89]

How Abt you try using a 'wider' coil? Like a spaced coil perhaps? Just so when you fold the cotton down to the well it stays clear of the air hole, not 'resting' on the lip if the hole?

ahh yes i know what you mean, so its forced to stay past the center hole. Thing is i know how to make micro coils but i aint that good at spaced! could give it a try though i guess.

 

[kkiet]

ahh yes i know what you mean, so its forced to stay past the center hole. Thing is i know how to make micro coils but i aint that good at spaced! could give it a try though i guess.

I think I would try less cotton.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

ahh yes i know what you mean, so its forced to stay past the center hole. Thing is i know how to make micro coils but i aint that good at spaced! could give it a try though i guess.

Wrap your coil on a small machine screw, install, unscrew it, wick. Perfect spaced coils...

 

[Junny89]

Wrap your coil on a small machine screw, install, unscrew it, wick. Perfect spaced coils...

I have used less cotton, it hasn't made any difference. I just thought this time put more in to see if it made a difference.

So i just literally unscrew it?

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[Shawn Hoefer]

I have used less cotton, it hasn't made any difference. I just thought this time put more in to see if it made a difference.

So i just literally unscrew it?

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Since the coils are set in the threads of the screw you have to unscrew it or you will pull your coil all apart. Then, thread in your cotton or rayon...

 

[Junny89]

Wow ok ill try that and report back.
Thanks

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[dirfm]

Not sure if it is the problem or if it helps. I have a liquid that is incredibly viscous and it will gurgle and flood no matter what I do. I either use that liguid in a squonk setup or mix it with some vg to make it thicker. The first two times I used it in a squape (and kayfun) it poured leaked spit gurgled and leaked. Now I know....

 

[nevillebartos]

u guys having trouble with the b deck? best results i've found so far are with really fluffed up cotton, I peel both sides off and use whats left in the middle, fluffing it up as much as possible, the ends i then place down in the deck, with minimal packing but making sure to keep them below the air hole. too high results in leaks.

coil i usually use 10 wraps ni200, 29 gauge tempered i think. used to do it with a screw but have found it quicker on a jig.

Usually vape 80/20 and this setup will do 30 watts with temp steady around 420f forever. coil can be raised / lowered toward air hole to taste, I run mine high-ish. Havn't had a leak in ages. Got 50/50 GwaRY4 in there at the moment, not sure if it's the juice or this build but it's running a little hotter than normal, knocked it back to 25W to stay clear of TP.

New batch of juices on the way and when they come gonna see if I can get this thing to hold 35W

 

[Sptz]

u guys having trouble with the b deck? best results i've found so far are with really fluffed up cotton, I peel both sides off and use whats left in the middle, fluffing it up as much as possible, the ends i then place down in the deck, with minimal packing but making sure to keep them below the air hole. too high results in leaks.

coil i usually use 10 wraps ni200, 29 gauge tempered i think. used to do it with a screw but have found it quicker on a jig.

Usually vape 80/20 and this setup will do 30 watts with temp steady around 420f forever. coil can be raised / lowered toward air hole to taste, I run mine high-ish. Havn't had a leak in ages. Got 50/50 GwaRY4 in there at the moment, not sure if it's the juice or this build but it's running a little hotter than normal, knocked it back to 25W to stay clear of TP.

New batch of juices on the way and when they come gonna see if I can get this thing to hold 35W

In general are you enjoying the B deck more than the W? I might get the W down the road (I just received my Squape today with the B deck, waiting for me at home).

 

[Junny89]

Not sure if it is the problem or if it helps. I have a liquid that is incredibly viscous and it will gurgle and flood no matter what I do. I either use that liguid in a squonk setup or mix it with some vg to make it thicker. The first two times I used it in a squape (and kayfun) it poured leaked spit gurgled and leaked. Now I know....

I've tried many different types of juices still the same thing happens.

u guys having trouble with the b deck? best results i've found so far are with really fluffed up cotton, I peel both sides off and use whats left in the middle, fluffing it up as much as possible, the ends i then place down in the deck, with minimal packing but making sure to keep them below the air hole. too high results in leaks.

coil i usually use 10 wraps ni200, 29 gauge tempered i think. used to do it with a screw but have found it quicker on a jig.

Usually vape 80/20 and this setup will do 30 watts with temp steady around 420f forever. coil can be raised / lowered toward air hole to taste, I run mine high-ish. Havn't had a leak in ages. Got 50/50 GwaRY4 in there at the moment, not sure if it's the juice or this build but it's running a little hotter than normal, knocked it back to 25W to stay clear of TP.

New batch of juices on the way and when they come gonna see if I can get this thing to hold 35W

ive tried this method too. It just gurgles and floods the wick and thus lots of juice drips out when vaping on it continuously as in my go to mod. or it just leaks. I know this because sometimes when i leave in the morning and its looking pretty on my night stand its fine, when i come its chilling in its own pool of glory.