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[JD1]

I'll be right there with you. I just placed an order for 10 hangsen flavors.

Be sure and experiment with percentages. Lots of folks are mixing at 1 drop per 1 ml (5%), but I had to drop down to about 3 percent. In fact I'm vaping some ry1 at the moment. It was mixed with 35/65 pg to vg, 6mg, with 2ml of ry1 added to 58 ml of base (~3.3%). vaped off the first ml and added 12 drops of TFA brown sugar extra to the remaining 59 ml. Yummy!

 

[Chiku]

TFA flavours don't work for me, they all taste to chemically for me. I tried at different percentages, and steeping but I just couldn't get them to work. I have had success with Capalla's sweet tangerine at 15% (thanks again Hoosier). And vaping Zone flavourings, SCBlackberry and key lime, lately at 1.5% (recommended at 2.5%), and the gourmet strawberries, apple cinnamon,and duchess pear at 1%. I also do one with .75% VZ gourmet strawberries and .25% SC blackberry that is really tasty (still pretty new to this, just starting to combine flavours and the VZ ones are great on there own).

 

[DeeDee1234]

Hi,
I'm a newbie in DIY also. Need to confirm a few things, If I have a premix 12mg 70/30 eliquid, I can just add the flavor, sweetener and menthol/koolada as I like right?

Another thing, I have ordered a few Lorann and TPA flavor, while some Capela Dessert flavor are on the way.

For the first few tests, I will not try and get too fancy. I will only do a straight flavor, e.g.

10mg pg/vg : 8ml
Tropical punch flavor : 1ml
Sweetener (Sucralose base) : 0.5ml
Koolada : 0.5ml

That's it for a 10ml. Will the above be find or is it going to be a disaster? I am particularly not sure about the sweetener and koolada portion that I should mix.

Are there any tips you guys can share with me on this??

Thanks!!!!

Looks fine to me. The sweetner is a bit too high. I would use a drop or two instead

 

[BlueMoods]

I didn't like TFA flavors either, or most out there, too chemical tasting even in small ammounts to me, but then to me stevia tastes bitter, not sweet so, I have a bit odd taste buds anyway. Ended up using mostly Watkins and a few LorAnn flavors - problem solved. Only flavor I don't buy is mint, I grow a plant called chocolate mint and, steep 1 TSP of fine chopped leaves in 30 mils PG for a week to get my mint. (use vodka or everclear if you are going to use the mint flavor in food.)

 

[Ebred]

Tfa juicy peach is awesome as a stand alone. It's good for fixing / overpowering a bad juice.

 

[Ebred]

OK, so here is the list and please keep in mind at this stage of the game I'm a big tobacco, coffe and real and natural flavors

Coffee TFA
Blueberry TFA
Black Cherry TFA
Bavarian Cream TFA
Spearmint TFA
Lemon Lime TFA (seams to half way descent actually)
Maxx Blend FA
Black Honey Tobacco TFAMenthol TFA (favorite one out of them all)
French Vanilla TFA
Vanilla Classic FA
Caramel Oryginal TFA
DK-Tobacco TFA

The French vanilla needs a good 3 week steep. After that it tastes like unsweetened vanilla not too good as a stand alone flavor. Mix about 1 to 2 % caramel with it to sweeten it up.
A little Bavarian cream and it should taste like a sweet vanilla. If its not sweet enough and EM at about 1% and let it steep another day or two. Now that you have a good vanilla you can experiment by adding fruit flavors and tobaccos to it. The experiments never end.

 

[Olympus Mons]

Know I'm still a noob but am I wrong here about TYPES of flavors being what is important and not (edit: "necessarily") percentages?

For me, even as a noob, I find strong flavors like coffee and Hazlett good at 2% or 3% or even 1% or less, if mixing with others like vanilla or other non-fruit flavors. For me, the taste comes through just fine with tiny amounts, any more is like a chemistry set.

Just smell the stuff in the bottle and realize what a strong component smell is to taste - a drop is A LOT for me. If I can smell it strong in the bottle I know just a drop or two in a small batch will do. Subjectivity applies, of course, but I've already found it is easy to use too much coconut or other strong flavors -- I guess even "strong flavors" is subjective, though.

 

[nidua42]

The French vanilla needs a good 3 week steep. After that it tastes like unsweetened vanilla not too good as a stand alone flavor. Mix about 1 to 2 % caramel with it to sweeten it up.
A little Bavarian cream and it should taste like a sweet vanilla. If its not sweet enough and EM at about 1% and let it steep another day or two. Now that you have a good vanilla you can experiment by adding fruit flavors and tobaccos to it. The experiments never end.

Thanks. Gave it a try and I really like what comes out of it. Nice flavor.

I also diluted all my tobacco flavors from the 5% I stared with to 1.5-2% and it made w world of a difference. It finally tastes like tobacco not perfume, however, everything seems to be very smooth and I would say that it lacks throat hit. Anything I can do to remedy this?

 

[michaelsil1]

You could go with a higher PG ratio that should give you more TH.

 

[nidua42]

Higher PG ratio is the next thing I'm going to try as the current 70/30 PG/VG seems little to weak in the TH department. Hopefully this will correct things but I was wondering if there anything that can be added to increase the TH

 

[michaelsil1]

Nicotine! ...................

 

[jac1766]

I didn't like TFA flavors either, or most out there, too chemical tasting even in small ammounts to me, but then to me stevia tastes bitter, not sweet so, I have a bit odd taste buds anyway. Ended up using mostly Watkins and a few LorAnn flavors - problem solved. Only flavor I don't buy is mint, I grow a plant called chocolate mint and, steep 1 TSP of fine chopped leaves in 30 mils PG for a week to get my mint. (use vodka or everclear if you are going to use the mint flavor in food.)

I grow "candy mint" in my garden. I was wondering how to best extract it for vaping. Do you Vape that straight or is it strong enough to add as a flavorant?


Higher nic=stronger TH I wouldn't venture too far away from the 70/30 as the vg gives good vapor production and a nice feel to the vape.

Another trick I've read about (but not tried) is adding a cpl drops of vodka or pga to really kick up the TH if you're good with the other attributes of your juice.

I've been fiddling with my DIY concoctions for 3 weeks and have only 3 good recipes to show for it. Be patient and take good notes!

 

[nidua42]

My next step is to go to 70/30 ratio and if that is not going to do it I'll have to read up on adding vodka as I'm pretty happy with nic level now.

 

[pete63]

If you like tobacco flavor I use Hangsen RY 1 and RY 3 one drop per ml and it taste great.

 

[DeeDee1234]

My next step is to go to 70/30 ratio and if that is not going to do it I'll have to read up on adding vodka as I'm pretty happy with nic level now.

Good to see your doing better now and having better luck. When you added to your Mixes to lower the flavor % did you add Nic back in?

 

[JD4x4]

I've never gone over 2% with any TFA flavors, found them too strong otherwise. Vodka will certainly add TH, but start low with that as well. For me too much alcohol of any sort gives me a sore throat after a few days.

 

[BlueMoods]

Just a thought, have you mixed up some unflavored with both 100% PG and 100% VG, just do 1 to 3 mils of each at the nic you like to check if any of your chemicals are off and, causing the problem - dirty socks is often bad nic, ad depending on the source, PG and VG can be too chemical tasting for good juice. Doesn't hurt to isolate the problem before dumping out a lot of stuff.

 

[nidua42]

Good to see your doing better now and having better luck. When you added to your Mixes to lower the flavor % did you add Nic back in?

Absolutely. Everything recalculated with appropriate amount of Nic

 

[nidua42]

Just a thought, have you mixed up some unflavored with both 100% PG and 100% VG, just do 1 to 3 mils of each at the nic you like to check if any of your chemicals are off and, causing the problem - dirty socks is often bad nic, ad depending on the source, PG and VG can be too chemical tasting for good juice. Doesn't hurt to isolate the problem before dumping out a lot of stuff.

Yep, tried that few days ago. Can't really taste anything with just the PG, VG and Nic. I'd say it has no taste at all.