Ok one more question

[Papa Hoyt]

On my SS GGTS I have noticed that AW 18650 2600mah is real tight in the telescope tube. So tight as it has peeled the black jacket of the battery in spots.

Is this normal to be this tight?
Should I be using different batteries?

The spot that has peeld back appears to be where the PCB lead runs from the top to the bottom of the battery. I doubt that this is safe to ue anymore for fear of a short.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

I have one AW that does and one that doesn't -- I wish I knew what to tell you!

 

[fright88]

I probably wouldn't risk that battery but that is me. As for tightness I havnt tried an aw 18000 yet but my trustfires and ultrafires fit fine

 

[silentt]

I had some larger 2600mah 18650's that wouldn't fit at all, I think they were Ultrafires. I only have/use AW IMR's and they all fit in my GGTS perfectly.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

OK well now the Stainless Steel telescope has peeled both AW 2600 batteries. I have re covered the peeled areas with electric tape and these will be relegated to my Wooden Phidias only now. Cannot run them in a metal mod with the possibility of shorting out.

Why is this?

In my brass telescope these worked just fine and have for quite a few months now.

Tried them on the SS tonight and now I can not 3.7 vape at all in either GGTS because of the exposed shell and one being the + lead for the PCB on the battery.

Any help as to what 18650 batteries fit in here with a tad of wiggle room rather than the cell being so tight it creates a vacuum when trying to pull them out.

 

[Major]

All I can think of is maybe the diameter of those two AW's arew slightly out of spec. I use the 18350, the 18500's and the 18650 AW's in 2600 and have no issue. Although it would be exceedingly rare, have you loked inside the telescoping tube to make sure there is no small burr or feather from the threading process? As close as the tolerances are with the 1800 series, it wouldn't take much of a slight feather to create the issue you mention.

Just trying to think of any possibility though as I doubt it's the GGTS. I haven't ever seen or heard ot that happening but it's something else to check for. My bet would be the batteries themselves though. As good as they are, they are mass produced and so many are made for various industries that you might find one a few thousandths of an inch too wide.

 

[fright88]

I would also look for a bur or extra bit in the tube as they fit in your brass telescoping tube.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

I have looked and felt around in there, it is just stinking tight. on My AWs.

I also took my Tenergy RCR123s and put one in each tube, looking straight down the two different tubes, the brass appears that it has more room inside the tube.

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

I can put AW 2900's in my ss and it even has a bit of wiggle room...

 

[dspin]

Same here, all my AW's 2600-2900 fit w/the exception of one - it was a 2600 and was tight like yours. I wonder if there is a quality control issue going on w/the AW's. You could send one of them to a member and have them check it out against their SS GGTS.

 

[imeothanasis]

Hoy, if the same batteries fit ok to your other GGTS then maybe its a very small piece of metal that make the issue. Try to fit the batteries in every single piece so you will see what is the piece that cause the problem

And of course you can do as Dspin said

 

[Zoranth]

The Inside Diameter of both the Brass and the SS telescope tubes should be 18.5mm. All of the AW batteries I have measured within the 18xxx range fall within 18.13mm-18.36mm. Granted, most of the batteries I have are IMR's I do have a couple of AW 18650's that are protected. These were at the widest end of the spectrum (18.32, 18.35 and 18.36). I have found a couple of the xxxxfire bats that were warped and would not fit in either of the tubes.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

ok well after talking to Bruce @ COV he sent me the above information that Zoranth just posted.

I can not find my calipers and am pretty sure they have been borrowed and not returned. So I am unable to measure either my batteries nor the tubes.

I will post a video tonight showing you what I am dealing with and maybe we can get somewhere like that.

I will also try to find my good tape and measure the circumferance of the batteries I am using that fit in the brass but not the steel telescope.

I will see you guys a little later tonight. been a long day.

 

[Zoranth]

Hoyt, as I told Bruce in a PM this morning, you could also try rolling the battery on a flat surface to check to see if they are warped.

ok well after talking to Bruce @ COV he sent me the above information that Zoranth just posted.

I can not find my calipers and am pretty sure they have been borrowed and not returned. So I am unable to measure either my batteries nor the tubes.

I will post a video tonight showing you what I am dealing with and maybe we can get somewhere like that.

I will also try to find my good tape and measure the circumferance of the batteries I am using that fit in the brass but not the steel telescope.

I will see you guys a little later tonight. been a long day.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

OK the video is loading, I will post it here when it is done.

If anyone can help me out here please do so, I want ot get back to vaping my GGTS on an 18650.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

As soon as the problem is solved I will pull this video from YouTube. It is listed under unlisted so no one can randomly find it. only can be seen with this link or on this thread.

 

[Zoranth]

Hoyt,

That SS Telescope is not right. IF you do not feel any burs on the ID of it at either end, then it cannot be at 18.5mm ID. Talk with either Bruce or Imeo to get you a new telescope. The problem as I see it from your video is not the batteries. I just did a side by side comparison with my Brass and SS telescope sections and they both have ample wiggle room in them.

Sorry for the inconvenience

-Zor

 

[Repent]

I was hoping in the video that you would show us the insides of the pieces in question. I wanted to see if I could see any leftovers from the manufacturing process causing you issues.

Maybe a silly question since they appear to screw onto the other pieces just fine but the tube isn't slightly out of round at any point?

 

[Papa Hoyt]

I was hoping in the video that you would show us the insides of the pieces in question. I wanted to see if I could see any leftovers from the manufacturing process causing you issues.

Maybe a silly question since they appear to screw onto the other pieces just fine but the tube isn't slightly out of round at any point?

Well I don't think there is any "remnants in the tube. It passes a qtip test without snagging. The very edges are sharp but that would be expected of a threaded tube at the end of the threading.

I really would not know how to test the out of round at the moment. I can tell you it rolls quite nicely across the table without any immediate visual indication that it is egg shaped or oblongation in the tube while being rolled.

Might I ask if yours is this tight?

 

[Zoranth]

I really do wish you had your calipers though as that wold provide the definitive answer.