First I want to thank Shawn at Zig Cigs for the prize, Thyestean for holding the contest and everyone that nominated me.
Shawn's products are top notch and he even packs everything in environmentally friendly popcorn (actual popped corn!). ECF is a great community and I'm very thankful for all the helpful information.
However, please don't hurt me (especially domino38!), for what I'm about to say.
I'm sorry. We tried. We really did. We just aren't e-liquid people. I tried to be as careful as I could and I still made a mess and I think overdosed myself with nicotine in the process. I was so excited that I ordered all three Halo menthols (TruePure, Menthol Ice and Cool Mist) in 15 ml bottles from Modern Vapor in 36 mg. for my husband to try with the 510s. I tried dripping on the bridge and filling the cartridges - but the 510s were all airy and gurgly both ways. The real problem is the liquid, though. When we figured out that the 510s weren't going to work for us - I filled one of our empty E9 cartos with Halo and got two hits before it just quit and brown burnt liquid came out. We just don't want to mess with liquid - even for refilling cartos. Cartos are still cheaper than cigarettes - and cleaner for fumblethumbs like me (and forget my husband, he hasn't even switched over completely yet - so yeah, juggling liquids vs. buying a pack is a no-brainer for him).
We just have to be honest with ourselves. We really like our Green Smoke kits. If they would have had high nicotine cartridges we wouldn't have looked anywhere else. On their affiliate board, I suggested they up their mgs and they are considering it - but they are careful with the FDA and legality and claims that e-cigs are getting people addicted to more nicotine, etc.
I did discover that VG doesn't dry out and hurt the branches in my lungs like PG did. However - since it's thicker, my lungs like to hack it all out right away. I think this may be because I'm a stress/social smoker and not a true smoker and the cilia in my lungs is probably not damaged enough - so it's overly sensitive. I realize I could make my lungs get used to it - but that doesn't seem wise. I was a half a pack a day smoker for a while, but a bout of bronchitis led me to quit - so I don't need the nicotine. I have to say that I love vaping so much - for the habitually calming way it effects my anxiety - that I just vape no nic flavors like a cigar, rolling the vapor in my mouth and I'm happy with that.
Here's the part that domino38 is going to want to smack me for: Since we tried V4Ls KR808s and they didn't work for us and the 510s didn't work for us... and we liked our Green Smoke E9s - but they didn't have high nic or VG... we (dunt, dunt, duhhhhh)... ordered from e-cig.com!
Mmmuuwwwwahahahahahahahh!
...and y'know what? We were happy with them. We tried E9 e-smoke.net cartos and E9 Vapure.com cartos but didn't care for the flavors of either of them. Call us crazy, but we like the subtle flavors that Green Smoke had. Intense flavors was one of the things that put us off of V4L. So we bit the bullet and ordered from China (e-cig.com). One thing that happened was that my overprotective debit card froze my account until I could reassure them that - YES, I did order something from China.
The packaging was nothing compared to Green Smoke - but that great packaging, marketing and affiliate support is what you pay for (and I actually like the company for it - and the fact that they are working on making their own cartos in the US instead of China). The e-cig.com batteries are a little more t[FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]emperamental [/FONT] - but the cartos taste great (to us), have great vapor and all their stuff (batts, chargers, cartos, etc.) is way cheaper! It takes a bit longer in shipping, though.
So I'm here to say that we're sorry, but we're E9/carto lovers.
BUT... THIS SHOULD MAKE UP FOR IT:
We tried 2 of the 510s for a couple hits each. I think I only opened the Florida Orange 0 mg and used a couple drops on the bridge and all the others are unopened. I think we used 3 of the 510 cartridges.
We tried the Halo juices first. I think we only opened two of them and only used a little in the 510 cartridges and one empty E9 carto. So all the juices are pretty much full bottles.
Since I paid $42 for all three Halo juices - I was thinking of putting them up for sale (or swap if anyone here is crazy like us and has E9 stuff)... but I've never done that either and have to look into how it works.
That's my long and sordid tale, please advise... and thanks to everyone!
- H.
Shawn's products are top notch and he even packs everything in environmentally friendly popcorn (actual popped corn!). ECF is a great community and I'm very thankful for all the helpful information.
However, please don't hurt me (especially domino38!), for what I'm about to say.
I'm sorry. We tried. We really did. We just aren't e-liquid people. I tried to be as careful as I could and I still made a mess and I think overdosed myself with nicotine in the process. I was so excited that I ordered all three Halo menthols (TruePure, Menthol Ice and Cool Mist) in 15 ml bottles from Modern Vapor in 36 mg. for my husband to try with the 510s. I tried dripping on the bridge and filling the cartridges - but the 510s were all airy and gurgly both ways. The real problem is the liquid, though. When we figured out that the 510s weren't going to work for us - I filled one of our empty E9 cartos with Halo and got two hits before it just quit and brown burnt liquid came out. We just don't want to mess with liquid - even for refilling cartos. Cartos are still cheaper than cigarettes - and cleaner for fumblethumbs like me (and forget my husband, he hasn't even switched over completely yet - so yeah, juggling liquids vs. buying a pack is a no-brainer for him).
We just have to be honest with ourselves. We really like our Green Smoke kits. If they would have had high nicotine cartridges we wouldn't have looked anywhere else. On their affiliate board, I suggested they up their mgs and they are considering it - but they are careful with the FDA and legality and claims that e-cigs are getting people addicted to more nicotine, etc.
I did discover that VG doesn't dry out and hurt the branches in my lungs like PG did. However - since it's thicker, my lungs like to hack it all out right away. I think this may be because I'm a stress/social smoker and not a true smoker and the cilia in my lungs is probably not damaged enough - so it's overly sensitive. I realize I could make my lungs get used to it - but that doesn't seem wise. I was a half a pack a day smoker for a while, but a bout of bronchitis led me to quit - so I don't need the nicotine. I have to say that I love vaping so much - for the habitually calming way it effects my anxiety - that I just vape no nic flavors like a cigar, rolling the vapor in my mouth and I'm happy with that.
Here's the part that domino38 is going to want to smack me for: Since we tried V4Ls KR808s and they didn't work for us and the 510s didn't work for us... and we liked our Green Smoke E9s - but they didn't have high nic or VG... we (dunt, dunt, duhhhhh)... ordered from e-cig.com!
Mmmuuwwwwahahahahahahahh!
...and y'know what? We were happy with them. We tried E9 e-smoke.net cartos and E9 Vapure.com cartos but didn't care for the flavors of either of them. Call us crazy, but we like the subtle flavors that Green Smoke had. Intense flavors was one of the things that put us off of V4L. So we bit the bullet and ordered from China (e-cig.com). One thing that happened was that my overprotective debit card froze my account until I could reassure them that - YES, I did order something from China.
The packaging was nothing compared to Green Smoke - but that great packaging, marketing and affiliate support is what you pay for (and I actually like the company for it - and the fact that they are working on making their own cartos in the US instead of China). The e-cig.com batteries are a little more t[FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]emperamental [/FONT] - but the cartos taste great (to us), have great vapor and all their stuff (batts, chargers, cartos, etc.) is way cheaper! It takes a bit longer in shipping, though.
So I'm here to say that we're sorry, but we're E9/carto lovers.
BUT... THIS SHOULD MAKE UP FOR IT:
- 4 Premium Rechargeable Electronic Cigarettes (4 Atomizers and 4 rechargeable lithium ION batteries) Z 510 series (2 titanium, 2 black)
- 5 Pre filled Flat Tip Cartridges (Filters) with Marb flavor 16mg E-liquid
- 5 "E-liquid Ready" Black Round Tip Cartridges (Filters)
- 5 "E-liquid Ready" Black Flat Tip Cartridges (Filters)
- 1 Standard 120v Home Charger
- 1 120v wall outlet AC/USB adapter for use with PCC or USB charger
- 1 PCC (Personal "on the go" Charging Case)
1. Menthol Tobacco 12 mg
2. Smooth Menthol Tobacco 12 mg
3. Chocolate Cherry 0 mg
4. Chocolate Cherry 12 mg
5. Michigan Cherry 0 mg
6. Michigan Cherry 12 mg
7. Pina Colada 0 mg
8. Florida Orange 0 mg
9. Florida Orange 12 mg
10. Georgia Peach 0 mg
11. Hazelnut Coffee 0 mg
12. Vanilla Cinnamon 12 mg
We tried 2 of the 510s for a couple hits each. I think I only opened the Florida Orange 0 mg and used a couple drops on the bridge and all the others are unopened. I think we used 3 of the 510 cartridges.
We tried the Halo juices first. I think we only opened two of them and only used a little in the 510 cartridges and one empty E9 carto. So all the juices are pretty much full bottles.
Since I paid $42 for all three Halo juices - I was thinking of putting them up for sale (or swap if anyone here is crazy like us and has E9 stuff)... but I've never done that either and have to look into how it works.
That's my long and sordid tale, please advise... and thanks to everyone!
- H.