OMG!!!! My battery justn now EXPLODED

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Ken_A

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wow. Lesson learned there!!! I'm so glad you are OK!
I've been charging my AWIMR batteries in an intellicharger in a Pyrex dish in the middle of a ceramic floor!!! I've seen where batteries have exploded, caught on fire, etc...

so now you know to check your charger outputs with your device inputs and will not make THAT mistake again. Try to take a deep breath, a walk, listen to some calming music...
and maybe use the non-K-go for a calming vape for tonight.

Things like this can really shake you up.
 

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OK battery experts, I see two things in this thread that cause me concern about my own habits:

1. My ego came with usb charger but no wall plug. I plug it into my AC/USB adapter from my Kindle. Is this bad?
Just about any wall-port USB charger should be fine. The USB spec defines the output voltage to be 5V degrading in a defined manner under load and any decent e-cig charger should cope with anything within that spec. To be absolutely sure you should use one that can supply at least 500mA (0.5A). See this post (
Raspberry Pi Power Supplies - Soronlin ) which I wrote on supplying power with USB chargers (but ignore the bits about cables and needing 700amA, because the Raspberry Pi is more thirsty than an e-cig charger and needs a cable.)

Good grief -- I go off to write a reply, and five pages are filled while I do it.
 

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You said it was a KGO 1100, correct?
That battery is meant to only be charged from the mini usb port on the bottom end.
If you used an ego style charger that screws onto the other end, you screwed up!
Use the usb cord that came with the battery.

Wonder if the instructions warn against this potential explosive screw up?
I have a feeling the explosion part would be hard to duplicate if batt and charger is not defective.
Otherwise, manufacturers instead of sub-ohmers may ruin vaping for everyone.
 

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wow. Lesson learned there!!! I'm so glad you are OK!
I've been charging my AWIMR batteries in an intellicharger in a Pyrex dish in the middle of a ceramic floor!!! I've seen where batteries have exploded, caught on fire, etc...

so now you know to check your charger outputs with your device inputs and will not make THAT mistake again. Try to take a deep breath, a walk, listen to some calming music...
and maybe use the non-K-go for a calming vape for tonight.

Things like this can really shake you up.

Thanks Ken! yeah I definitely learned some very valuable lessons today and will be a better and safer vaporist because of it. I sure hope other folks can take something positive away from my experience today.
 

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The voltage when you test the battery with a tester. If you'd like to explain how it can begin to sag, go ahead. Sounds like you know more than me. But what I have read a lot, is that our batteries are usually rated for 1 year of regular use, which is X amount of charge cycles to be more precise. I have definitely noticed that batteries last around 1 year from purchase. All of my Provari's first batteries died 1 year from the time I purchased them. They all either stopped charging up to 4.2 volts or their voltage dropped very quickly right after charging them.

Not trying to give you a hard time Plumes, just didn't want people to think that batteries had a one year life as such. Everything you say is correct, but time by itself will not degrade a batteries performance much. I suspect you are just getting around those number of charge cycles in about a year.

I had two MNKE 18650s that lasted me 1 1/2 years. Now, they were pretty much worn out. Still charged to 4.2V, but as you said they didn't last long. What made me recycle them in the end was the voltage drop under load. I only ever ran them at about 1/3 of the maximum amp draw they were capable of, but I was starting to wonder about what their safe amp draw was in that condition.

Vape on :)
 

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I appologize for not reading all 14 pages so far. To the OP, glad you are ok and no damage was done to your home.

If anything is to be learned from this incident, it is to RESPECT the power that is in these batteries.

For the most part they are relatively safe, but accidents can happen and equipment can fail making them dangerous objects. Ego batteries are lithium ion chemistry batteries - a volatile (flamable) chemistry which can vent hot gas and flames. If they are not able to vent these gases effectively they can explode. This is the same chemistry batteries which are in laptop computers and cell phones, so we don't hear of these exploding.

Practice safe battery habits:

  • Charge batteries on a fire-safe surface. I charge my batteries on my stove top. Another option would be to use a glass or metal baking dish/pan.

  • Charging bags are controversial. Some say that they will contain a burning battery. Others say that they trap the heat of a charger/battery in an unventilated bag resulting in creating the potential for a problem that wouldn't ordinarily exist. Use your best judgement.

  • Never charge your batteries without some attention or being able to intervene should an emergency happen. You can't call the fire department or use a fire extinguisher if you aren't inside the house to witness the event.

  • Not a good idea to charge a battery overnight while you sleep. Take the battery off of the charger soon after a full charge. Most chargers stop charging when the battery is fully charged, but many continue a trickle charge to keep the charge at full. Lithium batteries do not like this and it can cause a decrease in overall battery longivity.

  • For eGo chargers, use only USB/wall adaptors like most cell phones use. Do not use computer USB ports or car USB ports.

For users of replaceable rechargeable batteries in mods, I recommend using only safe chemistry batteries instead of so-called protected ICR batteries. Batteries such as IMR and the newer hybrid batteries are safer than the "old school" ICR batteries with protected circuits built in.

If your mods have on/off features, use that feature when putting the mods in purses or pockets. I had a protected battery explode in a mechanical mod in a pants pocket when the fire button got stuck in the "on" position (luckily I wasn't wearing those pants when this happened).

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If your mod does not have the on/off feature or a locking fire button, remove the delivery device on top to break the electrical connection with the battery.

Do not carry spare batteries in pockets or purses without being in a safe plastic case. Plastic Battery Cases Contact with metalic objects such as coins or keys can cause a battery to vent. Below is a pic of an IMR battery which came in contact with something metalic in the pocket of a book bag.

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Not all batteries are created equal at the factory. Generic batteries are either the rejects of the main battery manufacturers or are harvested from old laptop computers. Avoid any battery with the name "fire" in it. Do not skimp on quality batteries or a charger - buy recognized name-brand batteries and chargers. Use the appropriate battery for the application it will be used for.

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide
 
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Try the Joye ego Upgrade Passthrus next time. Lotsa safety circuitry and the charger is built-in :)

I retire mine after a year, but I have one daily used that went 1-1/2yrs, no problems.

Not sure, to date, I've heard of an ego explosion w/o it being user error/abuse/cheap-knockoff.



Ben n Jerry's Butter Pecan- To. Die. For. That's why I vape unflavored, save money for ice cream.:ohmy::)

Haagen-Dazs WAS what I had. A whole pint :facepalm: gone. :laugh:

This will help answer the gfs question "why dont you just charge them next to the bed while we watch tv". They charge in the kitchen on the edge of the counter top away from anything that could easily catch fire.

My AW batteries get charged on the granite kitchen counter only when I'm home and awake. Well away from anything.

Wonder if the instructions warn against this potential explosive screw up?
I have a feeling the explosion part would be hard to duplicate if batt and charger is not defective.
Otherwise, manufacturers instead of sub-ohmers may ruin vaping for everyone.

Unfortunately most of these stick batteries don't come with instructions. Or they didn't when I got my eGo's. Most of the warnings are on the vendors sites.
 

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Not trying to give you a hard time Plumes, just didn't want people to think that batteries had a one year life as such. Everything you say is correct, but time by itself will not degrade a batteries performance much. I suspect you are just getting around those number of charge cycles in about a year.

I had two MNKE 18650s that lasted me 1 1/2 years. Now, they were pretty much worn out. Still charged to 4.2V, but as you said they didn't last long. What made me recycle them in the end was the voltage drop under load. I only ever ran them at about 1/3 of the maximum amp draw they were capable of, but I was starting to wonder about what their safe amp draw was in that condition.

Vape on :)

Agreed! Rechargeable batteries have a "cycle life", which has nothing to do with calendar days, months, years ... Rechargeable batteries usually have a cycle life of 200-500 cycles depending on the battery. Charge-Discharge = a cycle.
 

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Wonder if the instructions warn against this potential explosive screw up?
I have a feeling the explosion part would be hard to duplicate if batt and charger is not defective.
Otherwise, manufacturers instead of sub-ohmers may ruin vaping for everyone.

emus, I've always thought it was too bad that the industry didn't set standards for this. There is no excuse for making a charger that attaches to a battery that will explode when used with that charger. It's very easy to design a plug that will not physically attach to the wrong battery. Just like you can't plug a 110V wall plug into a 220V receptacle.

Unfortunately, maybe someone will have to get hurt before anything is done about it and that would really suck!
 

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you got me there. I was using a charger that came with a different starter kit I got a long time ago. same threading so I thought it would be okay. I couldn't tell how many times Ive dropped it. I very rarely do unless I forget it's on my lap before I stand up. Probably been dropped two or three times. Problem though is I have(had)two of them and they are identical. Couldn't say which one has been abused more. Although one of them did ride around in a tool box for several months csause I had misplaced there. (emphasis added)

Right there - one of the most common causes of a battery incident happening while charging. Some of these crap-o "chargers" are nothing more than a 5v USB to eGo adapter - they aren't even a charger at all. They rely on a hack job being done to the eGo battery itself and the 4.2 volt cutoff in the battery to provide an inadequate charging circuit. Put a battery designed to charge at a real 4.2 volts onto one of these 5 volt adapters and... hysterical stories on the news happen.

Haven't got to the end of this thread yet to see if anyone else picked up on the "any old charger" scenario. Regardless, this bears repeating - only use a charger designed to go with the battery you purchased.
 

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I had been charging batteries overnight as I slept until fairly recently, when I read here on ECF that you never should do that. I have not ever received any battery safety information with any battery I have purchased. Now I never charge a battery unattended. And now I think further precautions are warranted, such as charging within a pyrex dish.

Glad you are okay Fisheeboy! That is so scary!
 

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Just like you can't plug a 110V wall plug into a 220V receptacle.
I'm currently in Panama. I've got this tablet and a Trustfire charger plugged into a UK (usually 240V) 4-way adapter, which in turn has an IEC (kettle/monitor/PC) socket. Then a US (110V) mains to IEC plug cable plugged into the 100V mains.

So I am currently doing exactly what you say I can't, and even charging a vaping battery with it. :p

(I'm an engineer; I do silly stuff like this because I know how to do it safely.)
 

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Ive seen those Lippos bags that the guys w the R/C cars use but never thought about using them with other batteries.

Here is a link I found to a post about Lippos bags on this forum..
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tutorials/355629-how-use-lipo-safe-battery-charging-bag.html

I bet alot of people dont even know these bags exist and why the R/C guys use em...

Now I need to find one to fit my Nitecore i4 charger......

Try HobbyKing.com I think this is the largest one they carry. It's almost 10x13": Lithium Polymer Charge Pack 25x33cm JUMBO Sack

As an aside - do note the significantly lower prices HK is charging compared to e-cig vendors...
 
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