On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations
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True enough.
Cuz your thinking is rational.
I doubt very much that the same can be said about an agency that deems a few lines of program code ( to update your regulated mod ) a tobacco product.
I doubt very much that the same can be said about an agency that is howling and mewling that they are chronically underfunded and overworked. If thats truly the case, then why on earth would it burden itself with yet more work ? Especially from an industry/community that - so far - has done fairly well sorting itself out ?
Diacetyl, diketones, tall claims from shady vendors, exploding batteries, etc.
Tons of threads where it's been discussed - sometimes ad nauseam.
Unlike some outfits in BP or BF, who are more apt at covering up ' oh it's ok, deary, have another chantix and try to sleep..' we've got nothing to hide.
Been there, seen it. Done it. Lot's of fellas and fellesses here that been around the block - more than once.
A few decades livng are apt to teach you some lessons. And while it seems in increasingly short supply elsewhere, there is plenty of it here: common sense.
Applying common sense to you post it's makes..well, sense
But after having read ( or tried as much as my very limited command of 'reg speak' allows ) 499 pages of deeming reg with an appalling lack of common sense, I - for myself - wouldn't bank on their rationality.
If they expected for that to pass without a legal challenge, they persons responsible for that are more gone south than I thought.
If they do all that on BT's bidding, they're more corrupt than I thought.
In either case, they present a clear and present danger to the people of the United States and should be removed from office.
Just my seven cents ( 2 cents plus 3 cents vape tax plus 3 PMTA)
You should have some time (I think and hope). The clock starts ticking now. I'm guessing two years max.
Do a little each month. Check out the DIY section of the forum to see what you need as far as nic to stock up. How you store it and all that jazz. Learn how to make your own coils and get a device that will allow you to use your own.
Hopefully we can get this turned around, but you need to learn to be self sufficient. We can help you get there. Ask questions. Be SAFE above all else.
A good source is shops selling model making supplies.
Don't get me wrong
, I mean model airplanes, model cars, stuff like that.Using a small threaded road as a coil jig, threads makes for perfectly aligned turns
Small screws in all shapes and sizes, o-rings.
Miniscule motors with heating coils to ignite the fuel...
Should not just send he model airplane flying, but your imagination and ingenuity too
I sort of feel like I have been at the amusement park for years and now I have to leave because it is being closed for ever and I am trying to stock up on cotton candy, trinkets and salt water taffy to last my lifetime
Did someone say mods?
I have 22 18650s new and freshly charged. Cotton and wire.
Thinking about ordering a dryherb MOD just in case.
I have 22 18650s new and freshly charged. Cotton and wire.
Thinking about ordering a dryherb MOD just in case.
I an interested to see them try and ban basil and oregano. LOL
I sort of feel like I have been at the amusement park for years and now I have to leave because it is being closed for ever and I am trying to stock up on cotton candy, trinkets and salt water taffy to last my lifetime
We need one of our resident experts to guide us on whether it is better to freeze cotton candy or not!
Texas Instruments tested their products stored for up to 15 years in moisture barrier bags (metallized) in a warehouse (<40°C and <90% RH) and found no changes in them.
http://www.ti.com/lit/wp/slva304/slva304.pdf
Many companies put some components, boards, etc. for long term storage for servicing their product long after it was discontinued.
True enough.
Cuz your thinking is rational.
I doubt very much that the same can be said about an agency that deems a few lines of program code ( to update your regulated mod ) a tobacco product.
I doubt very much that the same can be said about an agency that is howling and mewling that they are chronically underfunded and overworked. If thats truly the case, then why on earth would it burden itself with yet more work ? Especially from an industry/community that - so far - has done fairly well sorting itself out ?
Diacetyl, diketones, tall claims from shady vendors, exploding batteries, etc.
Tons of threads where it's been discussed - sometimes ad nauseam.
Unlike some outfits in BP or BF, who are more apt at covering up ' oh it's ok, deary, have another chantix and try to sleep..' we've got nothing to hide.
Been there, seen it. Done it. Lot's of fellas and fellesses here that been around the block - more than once.
A few decades livng are apt to teach you some lessons. And while it seems in increasingly short supply elsewhere, there is plenty of it here: common sense.
Applying common sense to you post it's makes..well, sense
But after having read ( or tried as much as my very limited command of 'reg speak' allows ) 499 pages of deeming reg with an appalling lack of common sense, I - for myself - wouldn't bank on their rationality.
If they expected for that to pass without a legal challenge, they persons responsible for that are more gone south than I thought.
If they do all that on BT's bidding, they're more corrupt than I thought.
In either case, they present a clear and present danger to the people of the United States and should be removed from office.
Just my seven cents ( 2 cents plus 3 cents vape tax plus 3 PMTA)
NO need to stockpile batteeies. They are needed for power packs used in cirdless tools and in flashlights.
NO need to stockpile VG and PG
NO need to stockpile wicking material
And other items
Ok what do i need to stockpile?
Mods with external batteries good 18650 mods for $35 and up.
A few x-tra RDA or RTA you can get a clone of Silverplay Nano for $12 and up.
Nicotine base. Sometines a liter of 100 mg/ml on sale. A few months ago $24.95 a liter
Real ejuice flavors from TPA, TFA, or High Desert Vapes.
500 foot Kanthal $4.95 a hundred foot.
Literally $500 would let you vape for YEARS.
I think some of us are already thinking along these lines...but really do we want liquid and its ingredients sitting two = years? technology changes in vaping all the time.. I only think stockpiling will have to wait till last minute and hope inventories will support demands.
Nicotine base has been kept in a freezer for six years
I would keep flavors in the freezer too.
Get the VG and PG as you need it.
You have some time. Just buy what you can when you can. if you spend as much each week on gear as you would on smokes, you can prep up pretty quick.
Wow thats controversial. Ive read articles saying its the last place to keep eliquids! whats your research?
Hear hear
2.5 packs $6 a pack. $15 a day.
$15x 30= $450.
$500 and buying carefully you can vape for years.
$75-120 for 3 mods.
$100-125 for 3 liters 100 mg/ml nicotine.
$30-50 for three RDAs or RTAs at Fasttech.
$30 for Kanthal
So far that is $310, and you still have almost $200 for another liter nic and flavors.
There us a DIY forum here, anf Post discount codes, and special sales. A few months ago they had a 20% sale on Fasttech.
A few months ago there was a sale on liters of 100 mg/ml nicotine $24.95.
One ECF member did a test. After 6 years it was still good.
The trick is to re bottle and fill to the brim. Leave NO space for water to get in the bottles.
Once i bring bottles out of the freezer they never go back in.
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