at some point after the deeming regulation, i was expecting to see massive sales from the companies that do not expect to be around much longer. is it wrong to be expecting these sales? maybe its still too early. what do you guys think? i want to stock up (although im already fairly stocked up), but like is often said- gotta have backups for your backups.
On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations
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Just searched for 7 x .5 mm tap and die.
About 473,000 results (0.89 seconds)
Hardly proprietary.
About 473,000 results (0.89 seconds)
Hardly proprietary.
Already seeing some sales. I am sure we will see more as some/many/most Small Businesses decide the price of admission is too high to remain.
That being said, I personally am not counting on it. I purchased my insurance already. If I see some nice targets of opportunity later, great.
The thing that remains unknown is how hard they are going to come down on Vendors on day 91. The FDA claims they are well prepared. Are they? I do not underestimate the governments ability if they put their mind to it. Look how fast they limited Sudafed once it became law.
Dont underestimate sloth on the side of some vendors, we are seeing that now as well.
Dont underestimate the States desire to cash in on the tax Cow, or prohibit online transactions.
Dont underestimate the banks choosing not support tobacco product transactions or companies.
How much of this will come to pass, and when? I dont know, thats why my insurance is already in hand.
That being said, I personally am not counting on it. I purchased my insurance already. If I see some nice targets of opportunity later, great.
The thing that remains unknown is how hard they are going to come down on Vendors on day 91. The FDA claims they are well prepared. Are they? I do not underestimate the governments ability if they put their mind to it. Look how fast they limited Sudafed once it became law.
Dont underestimate sloth on the side of some vendors, we are seeing that now as well.
Dont underestimate the States desire to cash in on the tax Cow, or prohibit online transactions.
Dont underestimate the banks choosing not support tobacco product transactions or companies.
How much of this will come to pass, and when? I dont know, thats why my insurance is already in hand.
The tap/die are all over the place, I have several myself. Did you find any actual "products" made with that thread size other than ecig products? Nobody is questioning being able to buy the tap/die.Just searched for 7 x .5 mm tap and die.
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Hardly proprietary.
It will of course depend on Which of the dozens of 510 configurations or variations chooses to observe, however there are many pieces varied in original usage and adaptation to the 510 total.
a Common Nutsert
a Brass/copper/etc. Pin, Rivet, hinge point
an O-ring - multitude of uses
a piece of Plastic Tubing
an Allan Screw
I see parts from an Automobile, a piece of Furniture, an RC Car.....
It is the Intended Use<Vague insinuations) that creates the 510 issue, not the unique parts.
Starting points:
Back Yard, ingenuity......
It the "intended use" of the M7 x .5 thread. The trick will be how one can claim an alternative use when none commonly exist today. Sure we can make our own, but how they going to get away with selling flashlights or aromatherapy devices with that thread? "Intended Use" will come down like a hammer.
The majority aren't going to be modding their own parts in order to make a mod. If it's not readily available (which it won't be), then folks are either going to go with a closed end system or just not try vaping at all.
Claiming the parts for a 510 connection won't be covered is wishful thinking. The FDA ensured that parts were covered under the new regulations. Yes, you can make your own, but the majority aren't going to go through that kind of hassle. If I were looking at starting vaping, and a company sent me a bunch of unfinished parts requiring me to do my own modifications (including making the threads for the 510 connection), those parts would be immediately sent back with explicit instructions on what to do with them.
Claiming the parts for a 510 connection won't be covered is wishful thinking. The FDA ensured that parts were covered under the new regulations. Yes, you can make your own, but the majority aren't going to go through that kind of hassle. If I were looking at starting vaping, and a company sent me a bunch of unfinished parts requiring me to do my own modifications (including making the threads for the 510 connection), those parts would be immediately sent back with explicit instructions on what to do with them.
I've never had a puff counter so I don't know. However, when I vape my stm at .5 ohms I'm usually at 17 watts.
Also, the zmax I am using right now and I really like it is wrapped at 1.35 and I have it set on vv, not vw and it is 3.6 or 3.7 volts. Still playing around with those two voltages, even though they are very close.
I've been using my stm for.months now and I go through 2-3 tanks a day, they're 4ml I think so I'm in the ballpark of 8-12 ml a day and sometimes even more than that.
You have to show your ID just to buy Allegra D. And you can't pick it up a day early. This caused my 76 year old mom who can't drive due to macular degeneration massive problems. It is effin nuts.
And I can already see banks and cc companies denying transactions after August 9th. We might all need prepaid cards to load up on to try to bypass that.
You probably vape too much to use 18350's in a Provari mini. However I think based on experience that it is better to build out a Provari mini to 18650 size so you always have the 18350 option. The 18350 is nice for a short trip to the store for example. I always bounced back and forth and bought a mini right after buying a regular size. So I had both ready to go. Other than the $10 for the extra extension there is little downside to a mini.
When the original IBM PC was introduced in 1981, quite a few reviewers panned it for using a proprietary bus.
Needless to say, that bus didn't remain proprietary for very long.
i like your position of stockpiling early. ive personally done (most of) my stockpiling. my main issue is the juice- being that the shelf life is not nearly long enough. sure DIY stockpiling nic base is an option, but thats going out the window if flavorings are affected by the regulation (unless you vape unflavored). how did you solve the juice problem?
with me personally- i was pretty much banking on juice companies re-branding themselves as aroma-therapy/room-fresheners/etc with 0mg juices. you can never predict intended use IMO. many products are used for things the creator may have never dreamed of, never mind intended. also i see intended use as very hard to gauge. i mean, is the company supposed to go visit you to make sure youre using the product "as intended"? is the FDA planning on sending folks to go visit people who bought air freshener made of PG+VG+scent? seems like a useless, unenforceable rule.
If I were not a vaper I would pop some popcorn and sit back and entertain myself watching how they go about all that.
As a vaper I would buy 100mg nic. A lot of 100mg nic
The idea of putting a 100% ++ tax on common consumer goods based on intended use is unprecedented to say the least. However I do believe they have it all figured out. They are smarter than most give them credit for here.
My theory is, if you've got nic, there will be a way to get or make flavored juice. It may not be your favorite flavor, but food flavorings in general aren't going away.
The part of the ecig industry located in the US consists of juice makers, retail stores, a few machine shops making luxury devices, and evolv. All hardware for practical purposes comes from china. The Chinese companies sell all over the world. America is rich, we buy a lot of stuff, but we have only 4% of the smokers in the world. Innovations and improvements in mods will continue the same as always. If the FDA rules stick those improved devices will be contraband in the US.
I agree with Rossom and Vneil. Flavors aren't going anywhere, they've been used for soooo long as food flavoring. Tobacco flavors on the other hand I'm not so sure.
We may have to order direct from the companies. The Flavor Apprentice (tfa) has wholesale prices. All you have to do is go on their page and fill it out and bam! You get better deals and no minimum orders. It is pretty nice actually if you want 4 oz bottles. I'm just worried that tfa's ry4 double may be taken off becauae it is considered a tobacco flavor but I really don't consider it one.
Definitely get aome nic, take some time in the diy subforum. Lots of great people there who can help with questions. Also, there are top rated recipes on e-liquid-recipesdotcom.
Eliq.com and a scratch-n-dent medical freezer.
CMF151L-1SD EdgeStar Compact Medical Freezer With Lock
VG will always be available. Flavors will always be available. Just tell them you are making flavored lube! [emoji56]
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Flavorings should not be effected except (maybe) tobacco flavors.
'Intended use' is up to their discretion, not ours, not the company that produces the merchandise. Whatever the FDA says, no matter how irrational, no matter how wrong.
I like the idea of a small dedicated freezer for nic stock too, it took me a minute to wrap my head around having to do the whole stock up thing but having a small freezer to keep it separate from food stuff was just a good idea. Locking is a great idea too so no one gets into it accidentally or otherwise, mine does not have a lock so I bought ammo cans that lock to put bottles in and store the freezer.
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