On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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kross8

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Great concept, but I am intimidated even contemplating it. It covers a lot of topics. The real challenge would be keeping the thread clean.
make it limited posting,only the managers post,, if someone has something to add,, they submit it to the managers to review then post/upload (with credit to the op of course)
 
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The only issue with building your own regulated from scratch(if it comes down to that) would be the firmware. The current chip makers could got the route a lot of console hacking tools do. Ship a blank chip that can be flashed with fw that is all over the place. Or ship the board labled as something else, because when it comes down to it the boards are voltage/wattage/current regulators. Sell the boards and let people make them into box mods.

Agreed. If you're okay with building something like a VV device with a mechanical knob instead of a screen, literally everything is readily available off the shelf.
 

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My bet is that will change on August 9, 2016.
i thought what the op posted was current law,, if so how are they getting around it? maybe i misread the dates.

i suspect many posters here will become highway friends,, sharing and swapping out supplies and turning around and going back home.
 

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You really need to look in the DIY forums, a lot of this stuff already exists there. Also, a ton of stuff on Shapeways already available, but I dont know if they will be post deeming. Search DNA on shapeways for eaxmple.

There are lots of How To in this section: Modding Forum

Here is my first Mod
The "WeekEnder"

Mods from a lot of folks.
Mike n Tibs DNA Mods!
nice! i have a few chips for my topbox in my current ft shopping cart.....thinking about adding a few more now. already got to take mine apart the other day to fix a stuck negative pin
 

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Starting a thread here at ECF with alternatives may cause those alternatives to be deemed tobacco products by the time it is all said and done. Sounds ridiculous but, look how ridiculous this whole thing is really.

Well, I'm starting a new juice line and calling it Vapo Jam's Deadly Tobacco eJuice. And, I'm marketing it with cartoon characters and bright colors specifically to appeal to kids...

The only thing is, my secret recipe is 95% water and 5% air!

Haha! What now, FDA?!
 

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Well, EU vendors reacted quickly - as TPD2 is already in effect. Vendors got till about November to unload stock. After that we'll have to see.

But here's an example of a ready-to-stash-in-timecapsule-vapegeddong package :)

10 x 100ml - 48mg/ml PG Basis | VPS Websales International

Used to be 72mg/ml before - but following some obsucre new reg on labelling anything abover 48 mg/ml would require a skull/crossbones marking which would make it impossible to mail.
It doesn't look like they ship to the States.
 

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Well, I'm starting a new juice line and calling it Vapo Jam's Deadly Tobacco eJuice. And, I'm marketing it with cartoon characters and bright colors specifically to appeal to kids...

The only thing is, my secret recipe is 95% water and 5% air!

Haha! What now, FDA?!

Dear Vapo Jam.

Thank you for submitting your $500,000 dollar application to have Vapo Jam's Deadly Tobacco eJuice FDA approved.

Sorry ... Denied :smokie:

Yours Truly
The FDA
 

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Starting a thread here at ECF with alternatives may cause those alternatives to be deemed tobacco products by the time it is all said and done. Sounds ridiculous but, look how ridiculous this whole thing is really.

It's awful but this was my first thought when I saw someone wanting to start that thread, the thing of it is though it is common knowledge the FDA and other anti-groups are monitoring and reading this forum. We have already seen our own words used against us and I would not want to give them any new insights or ideas on how to further hurt us.
 

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Great concept, but I am intimidated even contemplating it. It covers a lot of topics. The real challenge would be keeping the thread clean.
Too much stuff and too many possible directions for the topic. A single thread would rapidly be so mired with information that it would become useless. There already is the modders sub-forum here on the board.
 

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It's awful but this was my first thought when I saw someone wanting to start that thread, the thing of it is though it is common knowledge the FDA and other anti-groups are monitoring and reading this forum. We have already seen our own words used against us and I would not want to give them any new insights or ideas on how to further hurt us.

Exactly. See how my mood has changed? Sadly, it is the way that it has to be.
 

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Surreal even......

It REALLY is... I never dreamed it would get this far. I imagine this is how a many felt when staring down the barrel (pun not intended) of prohibition. The reason to learn history, is to NOT repeat the dumb shtick....
 

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It doesn't look like they ship to the States.

I placed an order with a Canadian retailer for some Twelve Monkeys juices a few days ago. I'm curious to see how it comes packaged. It may not be helpful that the retailer is named "Happy Vaper". That the $CDN is .78 to USD was, along with free shipping, ultra helpful.
 

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I placed an order with a Canadian retailer for some Twelve Monkeys juices a few days ago. I'm curious to see how it comes packaged. It may not be helpful that the retailer is named "Happy Vaper". That the $CDN is .78 to USD was, along with free shipping, ultra helpful.

Nice people at HV :cool:
 

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Weren't most flavors used before vaping got big just flavors you could get for candy making. If that is the case I don't see why current flavor companies couldn't just rebrand and keep selling their flavors as being used for something other than vaping? I'm I wrong on this assumption?

Nope not at all. Only if it says vape on the website.
 

Yiana

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If you haven't, please take the survey at the top of the page. It is the first I've seen, that actually asks the right questions. Whether or not our Govt. cares about the ANSWERS, is another matter. But hope springs eternal, right?

Yes! I took it earlier. It is really a great comprehensive survey. I even offered to comment on skype if necessary since they asked.
 

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I wonder if anyone (I'm looking at you, those suppliers out there who need to prove there's a "benefit to vaping" beyond harm reduction for nic addicts in order to get your products passed by the FDA under the new deeming rules) has considered the benefits of vaping in re weight loss / control? For those of us with a wicked sweet tooth (like me), vaping has already helped me drop 20 lbs. without any extra effort at all, just by keeping my insulin levels under control and the severe drop in sugar/carbs in my diet. Just sayin...

Exactly!!! My mil is a diabetic and she doesn't have to take medicine anymore.
 
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