On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[VNeil]

Trying to find the good in these Regs.....
Maybe the quality will be much greater than anything we are use to seeing.
If a company wants to release a new device, they will need about 3 months of research, spend at least 300K testing the device before submitting it for approval. This process sounds like it should eliminate flawed devices or devices that fail after a few weeks or months of use.
I'm sure cost will go up, but if I had the money back from everything that has failed.....you see the point.
Thoughts?

Even multibillion dollar space shuttles needed tweaks after the billion dollar design effort.

It is more likely that the cost of updating will result in poorer quality products and that might include safety defects.

 

[clnire]

@chanelvaps , here is some info on Kayfun 0-rings and screws. It references McMaster Carr parts, but you should be able to tell the sizes from the list.

Kayfun Replacement O-rings and Screws! | E-Cigarette Forum

found a document I have:


This is what I have in my files for O Ring and screw sizes for Kayfuns. Not mine I stole it from somewhere, but those sizes have worked great for me.

O RINGS
Fill screw O ring: 4mm o.d X 2mm i.d X 1mm section
Chimney O ring: 8mm o.d X 5mm i.d X 1.5 mm section
Base and other sections: 18mm inner diameter x 1mm wide.

( I think the fill screw o-rings I have are 2mm o.d x 1mm cs (cross section)

SCREWS
Deck screws: M1.6 x 3 mm
Fill hole screws:
Kayfun Lite: M2.5 Countersunk, length = 4mm (use this if the screw sits flush at the base).
KFL+ : M2.5 Pan head, length = 4mm (use this if the screw is a round head and recessed in the hole).

 

[Alien Traveler]

I can easily the the death of stainless steel coils due to the fact of possible hexavalent chromium exposure.
Some places that a visit and have to weld s.s. require me to wear fresh air hoods. I can easily see the FDA rejecting any S.S. coils for the very same reason. It's also one reason I've never tried them.

To produce hexavalent chromium high temperatures are needed, to melt metal. Exposure to hexavalent chromium supposedly occurs only when metal is welded or melted. And, by the way, there are more Cr in Kanthal than in stainless steel.

 

[Two_Bears]

Came home yesterday to piles of vapemail. Two packages from Health Cabin containing 4 Ehpro Kayfuns lite, 5 Lemo's and 2 mods. All stuff $5 each. Another package from FT (did not have to sign) containing replacement glass for all of these and orings for the 5 STM's I bought from Vape Happy for $10 each. Less than $200 and I feel I am set for toppers and mods. Already had mega amounts of VW mods stored away (VTC, Cloupors, Isticks and Vaporflasks)
Will I need orings for the Kayfuns? And do they make a bell cap for the Kayfun? I have tons of bellcaps for STM and my fav Taifuns.

I got vape mail today.

I got a package from Mr Li (Fasttech), it had three Serpent Mini attys, and 25 coils for an atomizer that is not Rebuildable. I have 75 coils for that Atomizer now.

 

[r055co]

I'm looking for 2-3 Mechs. Still shopping....

Beyond Vape has the Oros V2 on sale for $70, I got one a couple of months ago and it's an excellent tube mod

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[chanelvaps]

@chanelvaps , here is some info on Kayfun 0-rings and screws. It references McMaster Carr parts, but you should be able to tell the sizes from the list.

Kayfun Replacement O-rings and Screws! | E-Cigarette Forum

found a document I have:


This is what I have in my files for O Ring and screw sizes for Kayfuns. Not mine I stole it from somewhere, but those sizes have worked great for me.

O RINGS
Fill screw O ring: 4mm o.d X 2mm i.d X 1mm section
Chimney O ring: 8mm o.d X 5mm i.d X 1.5 mm section
Base and other sections: 18mm inner diameter x 1mm wide.

( I think the fill screw o-rings I have are 2mm o.d x 1mm cs (cross section)

SCREWS
Deck screws: M1.6 x 3 mm
Fill hole screws:
Kayfun Lite: M2.5 Countersunk, length = 4mm (use this if the screw sits flush at the base).
KFL+ : M2.5 Pan head, length = 4mm (use this if the screw is a round head and recessed in the hole).

THANKS C!

 

[skelley]

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[coilspotting]

Ok so the enthusiasm for Provari 2.5 on this thread has convinced me to buy 3 of them from ProVape. I got a GloVari and two plain SS 2.5s, all with the extension caps for 18650s. However, none of them turn on lol. I've tried every battery type I have (Sony, efest, Samsung, LE), and none of them work. They're all high-drain 18650, 20amp batteries, all less than one month old. I did RTFM, and on their site my batteries are among the ones sold and recommended by them, so I'm confused. I tested with several different known-working atomizers, at ranges from 0.35 ohm to 1.6 ohm. But I mean, the power is clearly the issue since the LED display and button don't light up. I tried clicking 10 times too (though it should've been ON by default according to the manual). What am I doing wrong, oh great and all-powerful Provari experts?

 

[440BB]

Are they button top? The 2.5's require them as they have a "shoulder" on the board to prevent reverse installation.

 

[Baditude]

However, none of them turn on lol. I've tried every battery type I have (Sony, efest, Samsung, LE), and none of them work. They're all high-drain 18650, 20amp batteries, all less than one month old. I did RTFM, and on their site my batteries are among the ones sold and recommended by them, so I'm confused. I tested with several different known-working atomizers, at ranges from 0.35 ohm to 1.6 ohm. But I mean, the power is clearly the issue since the LED display and button don't light up. I tried clicking 10 times too (though it should've been ON by default according to the manual). What am I doing wrong, oh great and all-powerful Provari experts?

Provari 2.5's require a button top battery. Flat top batteries will not work. Provape recommends AW IMR botton top batteries for the 2.5's.

Possibly an even better selection would be the Orbtronic (Panasonic cell) 18650PD button top battery, with 2900mAh capacity. The Provari 2.5 only requires a 10 amp high drain battery.

 

[AnthonyB]

Another attack on the FDA's deeming regulations with a new court case. Legal action is being taken by Sevia and a host of plaintiffs.

http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/archives/13263


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[Tommy-Chi]

Vapocalypse contraband just purchased:

2 - Sigelei Fuchai 213 (gray), which will go nicely w my 2 Sigelei 213s.

1 - Twisted Messes Squared w two additional bases, which will go nicely with the same order made last month.

Waiting for the 4th of July to order more contraband.

 

[coilspotting]

Provari 2.5's require a button top battery. Flat top batteries will not work. Provape recommends AW IMR botton top batteries for the 2.5's.

Possibly an even better selection would be the Orbtronic (Panasonic cell) 18650PD button top battery, with 2900mAh capacity. The Provari 2.5 only requires a 10 amp high drain battery.

Thanks. I'll try these (EDIT: well, no I guess I can't, since they're sold out). There is a slight button on all my batteries (I can feel it, as opposed to the totally flat negative pole). But I guess it's not enough of a button then? I wouldn't have bought these if I'd known I had to buy special batteries for them. Aargh. I'm trying to stockpile here, and having shared components is key to not wasting a bunch of money. So I'm a little frustrated.

 

[coilspotting]

Thanks. I'll try these. There is a slight button on all the batteries (I can feel it, as opposed to the totally flat negative pole). But I guess it's not enough of a button then? I wouldn't have bought these if I'd known I had to buy special batteries for them. Aargh. I'm trying to stockpile here, and having shared components is key to not wasting a bunch of money. So I'm a little frustrated.

Well I WAS going to try these, but they're sold out. AAAARGH!!!

 

[zoiDman]

Well I WAS going to try these, but they're sold out. AAAARGH!!!

Just my Opinion. But I think we are going hear More and More about things being Sold Out as we move forward.

 

[coilspotting]

I ended up getting these. Hope they work. I wish there was some way to adapt the PVs to use flat tops instead

8Pcs High Drain Battery 18650 35A 3.7v LI-MN 2500mAh Button for Mods - Flashlight Light Heads Lamp - US https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EK2BCPA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LPBAxbP8Z7DAR

 

[coilspotting]

Just me Opinion. But I think we are going hear More and More about things being Sold Out as we move forward.

I'm really afraid you're right, @zoiDman. Though I sure hope you're wrong.

 

[coilspotting]

I'm reluctant to buy the AW batteries because I hear they've been the most heavily counterfeited, along with Sony.

Provari 2.5's require a button top battery. Flat top batteries will not work. Provape recommends AW IMR botton top batteries for the 2.5's.

Possibly an even better selection would be the Orbtronic (Panasonic cell) 18650PD button top battery, with 2900mAh capacity. The Provari 2.5 only requires a 10 amp high drain battery.

 

[440BB]

Button tops will work in a number of other mods and should remain available from major suppliers like Illumination Supply for many years to come, so I don't think you'll have any availability concerns. Those particular batteries are unknown to me and their price does make me a little suspicious. They may not hold a charge as long or last as long as the branded batteries, but that's not a big deal in the long run as you can always get more IMR button tops in the future.

 

[coilspotting]

Does anyone know where the best deal on the Twisted Messes v2 deck is to be found?