On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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Yep, the line is different for everyone. I was just curious as to how others set theirs.

I was a prepper years before I became a vaper. That prepping kept my family fed when my hubby's job position was suddenly eliminated. It took him a few months to find another job. No matter what I do, I always look at it with that same prepper mentality. Some have said on this thread that we need to quit worrying or that we have 2 more years. I can't look at it that way. I learned to DIY juice one month in and rebuilding quickly after that. Stocking up followed that. (and being a prepper, that meant stocking up on everything) I just wish I could look into the future and see how long my mods will really last! I keep thinking that I have enough...or maybe I should get a couple more...
I think those who think they have two more years are in for a rude awakening. Just look at the States passing laws, taxes etc. They're all Pigs at the trough....


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Add 7 more Aromamizer RDTA's and 1,000,000 mg of nicotine to this and I don't even see the line yet.

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It is different for everyone, but my "stash" is

a few REOs ~ can't break beyond something very simple that I can fix
a few BF RDAs ~ nothing to really break on them unless an insulator cracks
wick and wire
3 more liters of nic and I'll have enough to last til I'm nearly 80

I expect all of these to outlast me.
 

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Don't wanna get into a debate, as each person likes what they like. But with a quality mech, you have built in safety mechanisms, like a collapsible spring that will drop your battery away from the firing pin immediately in case of a short. Plus, you aren't stressing your batteries with a mech. With a regulated mod, you're making your battery do more than it would normally do, so it stresses the battery somewhat. You're also relying on a chip, that can fail, to save you.
NO debate. I just don't like mechs
 

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NO debate. I just don't like mechs
One of the many great things about vaping, the wide variety of options to suit many preferences.

That said I believe it would be wise to have one or two mechs in your stash as a nuclear option ;)

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I hope this comment is constructive in light of the last bit of conversation here.

I recently purchased a Tuglyfe DNA200 just because...plus I want some nice mods that will last a long time before/if/when I have to put my stockpile into rotation.

Well, the minus/down button got stuck the third week in, not due to any abuse or even use. (For the record, the manufacturer has agreed to repair my device and in no way am I trying to besmirch the name of the manufacturer. These things happen.)

But what if this device was bought for the sake of being my high-end, last ditch attempt to own a mod I hope would last me for years? It would be broken, and let's say the manufacturer has to close its doors. What if I couldn't get it repaired?

All to say, this is why I have no problem biting the bullet on an assortment of $40-$50 mods on FT, even when I think maybe $45 for another IPV5 is too much, well, as long as I can afford it and there is even the slight possibility that FT will be off limits to me come August, I can justify the price. I'm loving the heck out of the models I have now, and in the future I will use them, regardless.

This is what I am concerned with. I keep thinking that I have enough mods to last me. The problem is that things do break. Yes, some can be easily repaired, but some can't. I mostly have Picos and VTC Minis. (and a few other mods) All this "new stuff" hasn't been around long enough to be time-tested. (and no, I have no interest in a Provari- lol) I have a very tight budget. I can't go crazy buying dozens of mods. So, I have to figure out where the "enough" line is. Will they each last one year? two? five? :confused: I am pretty confident that I have enough toppers, although I recently bought two serpent minis and I LOVE them! :wub: Now, I want more. lol

So for those who have drawn that line...how did you decide where it was?

I've also been stockpiling, but have used every new mod for at least two weeks before storing it, just to make sure it works correct. I have a few VTC mini's, one of them broke twice (510 connector) and was replaced by the vendor, not so sure though about their quality or lifespan. I also have a few pico's, so far they seem pretty decent, one of them has a slanted body but works well. Then i have some Eleaf iStick tc60's, they are rocksolid, one has been in continuous use for at least six months now, maybe the display is somewhat scratched and needs polishing. I think, if you don't screw on new tanks all the time so you won't wreck the 510-connector, the most vulnerable part of any mod is the firebutton. I assume the iStick 60 firebutton will last at least a year, so i should have at least 10 mods to cover 10 years.

My nic stash will last me at least 15 years, if i continue to vape @3mg, no worries there. I'm not concerned about nic-less base, i'm sure it will stay available.

I have a dozen STM's and TTM's plus lots of spare parts, i'm only concerned the silicone rings will dry out, become unavailable soon, not sure how to handle that.

My biggest concern is storing flavours, right now they're still available, not sure if they will in the near future. I can't stockpile them AFAIK, anyone any thoughts on that?
 
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I've also been stockpiling, but have used every new mod for at least two weeks before storing it, just to make sure it works correct. I have a few VTC mini's, one of them broke twice (510 connector) and was replaced by the vendor, not so sure though about their quality or lifespan. I also have a few pico's, so far they seem pretty decent, one of them has a slanted body but works well. Then i have some Eleaf iStick tc60's, they are rocksolid, one has been in continuous use for at least six months now, maybe the display is somewhat scratched and needs polishing. I think, if you don't screw on new tanks all the time so you won't wreck the 510-connector, the most vulnerable part of any mod is the firebutton. I assume the iStick 60 firebutton will last at least a year, so i should have at least 10 mods to cover 10 years.

My nic stash will last me at least 15 years, if i continue to vape @3mg, no worries there. I'm not concerned about nic-less base, i'm sure it will stay available.

I have a dozen STM's and TTM's plus lots of spare parts, i'm only concerned the silicone rings will dry out, become unavailable soon, not sure how to handle that.

My biggest concern is storing flavours, right now they're still available, not sure if they will in the near future. I can't stockpile them AFAIK, anyone any thoughts on that?
Flavored juice won't store for long and varies widely from juice to juice. Best bet is to explore DiY juice, flavoring will always be around. There are good recipes out there

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One of the many great things about vaping, the wide variety of options to suit many preferences.

That said I believe it would be wise to have one or two mechs in your stash as a nuclear option ;)

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I do. I have Kepler mech. If is tge last option after my regulated mods have gone.
 

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I've also been stockpiling...I'm not concerned about nic-less base, i'm sure it will stay available.

Actually, I think nic-base is the one thing you can COUNT on going away.

Even if we win every fight we have in front of us, and mods and attys an 0mg juice, clearly advertised as vaping products, remain commonly available, liquid nicotine is the ONE thing that the FDA is sure to be allowed to regulate. Liquid nic IS the tobacco product in all this. If we beat the FDA on every front, they're certain to "take their ball and go home", and their "ball" is nicotine.

On the other hand, if we LOSE every battle in front of us, and the FDA regs stand as written today, flavors, wick, wire, and batteries will all remain commonly available. Mods and attys will probably survive in some form- be it the stockpiles, home-made mods, or repurposed "flashlights" and "aroma dispensers". Nicotine is the one critical item that can't be home-made or repurposed out from under the FDA's thumb.
 

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Flavored juice won't store for long and varies widely from juice to juice. Best bet is to explore DiY juice, flavoring will always be around. There are good recipes out there
I meant DIY flavorings that have limited shelf life.

Actually, I think nic-base is the one thing you can COUNT on going away.
I was talking about nic-less base, that just can't be regulated in a tobacco way, since PG and VG are used for lots of other things too.
 
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I meant DIY flavorings that have limited shelf life.

They may have, don't believe that they do.

Don't really have to worry about it though since it's food flavoring and the FDA won't be classifying them as tobacco. If they did every chief, Baker, confectioner, etc would be out for blood.

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There are other mechs, but honestly, for longevity, if it's affordable for you, I'd get a reo or two and a couple Rm2 atomizers. You don't have to drip with a Reo, there is a bottle inside the mod, you squeeze the bottle, and juice feeds up into the atomizer from the bottom. Since you're a tootle puffer, the Rm2 would suit you fine, and you can't hardly find an atomizer that is easier to build on. I would also suggest getting a coil master V3 coil jig, makes a beautiful coil, and it couldn't be easier. Turn a knob, that's it once you get used to the amt of pressure or lack of it that you need to apply. You can't destroy a Reo. They've been run over by giant logging trucks, run over by cars, lawn mowers etc and they still vape if you put a new atty on.........cuz the atty does get destroyed with that kind of abuse lol Watch a couple vids on reos, and maybe visit reosmods.com or the lounge The Reonauts new lounge there are plenty of folks that are more than willing to help. Someone saw your post, and posted in the Reo lounge for someone to come help ya. Any questions, you can always pm me or I'll even volunteer Enaud lol



Thanks, everyone for the suggestions. I'm looking into all of these. Out of curiosity, what makes certain mods more risky than others? (I have no knowledge of how electronics work or mechanical ability). Is it that the atomizer touches the battery itself? Just want to know for future reference because the product description on the SMPL didn't really say anything, and I just figured SMPL meant "SIMPLE"! Lol. *Edit* I went back and looked, and the description did indeed include a caution statement. In my case of FDA freakout, I overlooked it.

Honestly, I am probably not going to get around to using a mech until a true doomsday scenario, and after I've worn out all of my regulated mods. I still think it would be nice to have a couple, just in case.
 
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One of the many great things about vaping, the wide variety of options to suit many preferences.

That said I believe it would be wise to have one or two mechs in your stash as a nuclear option ;)

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I agree, I prefer regulated but added a Reo and 2 nemesis to my stash for mech's plus a couple GLV's I already have so 5 mech's on hand. I have 5 regulated, but may get a few more :)
 

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Then i have some Eleaf iStick tc60's, they are rocksolid, one has been in continuous use for at least six months now, maybe the display is somewhat scratched and needs polishing. I think, if you don't screw on new tanks all the time so you won't wreck the 510-connector, the most vulnerable part of any mod is the firebutton. I assume the iStick 60 firebutton will last at least a year, so i should have at least 10 mods to cover 10 years.

I have a dozen STM's and TTM's plus lots of spare parts, i'm only concerned the silicone rings will dry out, become unavailable soon, not sure how to handle that.

My biggest concern is storing flavours, right now they're still available, not sure if they will in the near future. I can't stockpile them AFAIK, anyone any thoughts on that?
I've avoided buying the Eleaf iStick tc60s because several comments on myvaporstore.com say that it feels cheaply made. So you're saying I should add to my arsenal? The price is right.

I'm also an STM junkie, and wondering about the longevity of all the spare o rings. I saw someone post about storing them in water, and then I thought that maybe storing them in PG would be even better. Thoughts on that?

My wife loves the TTM, but I haven't even been able to find spare o rings for those.

I've been thinking about stocking up on Protank 4s now as well since it avoids the o ring question. But you can't replace the glass on those...decisions, decisions.
 

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I agree, I prefer regulated but added a Reo and 2 nemesis to my stash for mech's plus a couple GLV's I already have so 5 mech's on hand. I have 5 regulated, but may get a few more :)
Never used a mech yet, but have two nemesis clones in my FT cart. I'm seeing a lot of love for the REO as well so I just checked it out. Looks good. Added to cart.:)
 

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Never used a mech yet, but have two nemesis clones in my FT cart. I'm seeing a lot of love for the REO as well so I just checked it out. Looks good. Added to cart.:)
I never had a Reo before but wanted one in my stash :) they are tried and true. I will pick up another Provari too, they are my fav regulated mod.
 

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My stockpiling efforts seem to revolve around stock piling only what I can find CHEAP. I have some expensive stuff (2 Provari's, etc) and I usually buy things that will last for the long haul (Toyota 4runner) in this case, since things do break and since a warranty can be useless if the company folds due to regs (look at Indiana) I am kind of using the mentality of getting throw away stuff.
My usual motto in life is:
If it is a great deal and something you will always use BUY as much as you can fit in your car. You should see my laundry soap, toilet paper and cat litter stash. Sometimes it is hard to pull my car in the garage and I have a two car garage and only one car!
 
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