On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Tommy-Chi]

Gonna buy 30 years worth of nic in the next 6 months, damn the cost. By the time I run thru that, I will be nigh on 80. {moderated} it, then I'll smoke...

NO. NO smoking for me. When I hit the wall, I'll do it dancing with 4 hits of X.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

got my Serpent full size tank.
Nice good vape. first build 1.1 ohm 27 ga 2.5 mm.
No leaky yet about 1/2 tank vaped.
Flavor very good but not knock your eyeballs out good.
Very good airflow.
Will build again next tank about .8.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Gonna buy 30 years worth of nic in the next 6 months, damn the cost. By the time I run thru that, I will be nigh on 80. {moderated} it, then I'll smoke...

I did not do the calculations but apparently 30yrs of nic 12 12mg/ml is around 20 liters. I don't know if I can get there but that is my target, just for myself.

 

[tjcraig]

Pardon the ignorance. I'm either working, outdoors, or in bed. What's going on? I know they raised the age from 18 to 21 - I'm 29 - here in this debt abyss that is California (will be leaving soon before I get trapped), but what's the short version of all of this FDA talk? I don't have the money to stockpile anything so if I need to rob a bank please let me know.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Pardon the ignorance. I'm either working, outdoors, or in bed. What's going on? I know they raised the age from 18 to 21 - I'm 29 - here in this debt abyss that is California (will be leaving soon before I get trapped), but what's the short version of all of this FDA talk? I don't have the money to stockpile anything so if I need to rob a bank please let me know.

The short answer is use the search bar and search for DEEMING.

 

[sparkky1]

• • Pardon the ignorance. I'm either working, outdoors, or in bed. What's going on? I know they raised the age from 18 to 21 - I'm 29 - here in this debt abyss that is California (will be leaving soon before I get trapped), but what's the short version of all of this FDA talk? I don't have the money to stockpile anything so if I need to rob a bank please let me know.

    
    
    
  • There are several routes you could take, but wish Jerry Brown the best at keeping up the good work before you leave !!!

 

[crxess]

People are starting to scare me...

Please Store smart and DO NOT Break your Bank trying to buy up Decades worth of things that should never be touched by Regulations.

Good, well educated people are working to correct this massive mess of likely unconstitutional Crap.
Why no word until now. You cannot Slay a Dragon protected in its cave. This had to come to light to be seen, evaluated and acted upon.
The fight is on and it is going to get UGLY.

Save a few of those Bucks for the Legal Battles.

Support the Cole-Bishop Amendment!!!

 

[ENAUD]

I put three mods in a Steel ammo case abd wrapped the mods in crepe rubber just in case of EMP.

Tge mods were stored without batteries.

If there's an EMP, where you gonna git your electricity from?

 

[AnthonyB]

Homeland security writes an open letter to the FDA and explored the implications of the deeming regulations.

(In case no one has posted it already)

Majority Media | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee | Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee


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[AnthonyB]

When it comes to storing liquid nic, oxidation is the enemy.

1. Exposure to oxygen causes nic to oxidize so transferring liquid nic into glass containers is a must if longevity (>3 years in storage) is a goal. Oxygen can't permeate through glass but can through plastic. Glass Boston round bottles with poly-cone caps are ideal (most premium e-juice comes in Boston round glass bottles). Choose a size that provides you about a 6 months nic supply that way you can pull just what you need from the freezer when it's needed. Fill each bottle so that there's a minimum head space to reduce the amount of air trapped/sealed inside, the small tapered neck on Boston rounds are ideal for minimizing head space/trapped air. Be sure to label the bottles with content and the date stored for stock rotation.
2. Heat causes nic to oxidize, placing nic in a freezer greatly slows oxidation, the colder it's kept the slower it will degrade. Neither PG nor VG will freeze solid at the temperatures a residential freezer is capable of generating they just get very thick like syrup. Unlike water neither PG nor VG expands at these temperatures so glass containers are perfectly safe to use. Even so I place my stored bottles of nic inside plastic storage trays in case I somehow manage to break one while inside the freezer, any spillage would then be fully contained.
3. Light (UV) causes nic to oxidize so protecting nic from direct light is required. Most people use opaque (colored) glass bottles for storage and use. The inside of a freezer is dark which eliminates UV degradation so clear glass bottles would work just fine for storage but once a bottle is removed for use it would then need to be protected.
4. Since liquid nic doesn't freeze solid, once removed from the freezer it doesn't need to be thawed. However, since both PG and VG are highly hygroscopic and will pull/absorb moisture from the air, ice cold nic should be allowed to warm to room temperature before opening the bottle. Otherwise condensation would rapidly form and be directly absorbed.

Thank you for the in depth and thorough response Strvision. This read like a good concise manual.

Much appreciated.

 

[issy]

I DIY, and have about .75 litres of 100mg/ml left from when I started DYIing over a year ago. I just bought another litre that I'm going to freeze. I'm going to order a few RTAs from fasttech in the next day or so. I tend to be very forgiving on the hardware that I use...I've been using the same istick 50w and lemo 2 for a year. I've gone through 2 coils, but lots of dry-burning.

Because I'm a ... tootle puffer? Mod-womper? I only use about 3ml per day, and my coils are around 1ohm. I'm thinking about buying a provari to suit my needs. The new procyon looks lovely. Anyone else considered provape goods to get them through? I wanted the 2015 classic, but never got it.

 

[Two_Bears]

If there's an EMP, where you gonna git your electricity from?

Ever hear of solar cells?

 

[chanelvaps]

Pardon the ignorance. I'm either working, outdoors, or in bed. What's going on? I know they raised the age from 18 to 21 - I'm 29 - here in this debt abyss that is California (will be leaving soon before I get trapped), but what's the short version of all of this FDA talk? I don't have the money to stockpile anything so if I need to rob a bank please let me know.

I see no one has answered your question.
I might not be that clear on it all...I do not think anyone is. The jest of things is you have until around the first of August to purchase as you do today provided your state has not stopped all tobacco product shipments. After/around the first of August things could change drastically. If you are low on funds at least buy some Nicotine and learn to love unflavored (you can always buy VG and PG over the counter)

Nude Nicotine - Chemically Validated and Artfully Concocted Electronic Cigarette Liquid the best
Unflavored Nicotine cheaper

 

[BillW50]

Here is how Phil and Dimitris sees what will happen in August.

 

[Robino1]

I'm just going to drop a Public Service Announcement here.

I've noticed that there has been a lot of (don't do as I am doing but I need to place the example) F' this or similar in posts. This is not allowed.

Nor is using symbols in place of letters to get that same message in under the forum censor.

I get that we are all frustrated. O.M.G. So VERY frustrated with what is going on.

Thanks for listening

 

[mattiem]

I'm just going to drop a Public Service Announcement here.

I've noticed that there has been a lot of (don't do as I am doing but I need to place the example) F' this or similar in posts. This is not allowed.

Nor is using symbols in place of letters to get that same message in under the forum censor.

I get that we are all frustrated. O.M.G. So VERY frustrated with what is going on.

Thanks for listening

this always works for those that don't know, this : censored : without the spaces before and after the word makes this My public service announcement for the day

 

[Alien Traveler]

People are starting to scare me...

Please Store smart and DO NOT Break your Bank trying to buy up Decades worth of things that should never be touched by Regulations.

Good, well educated people are working to correct this massive mess of likely unconstitutional Crap.
...

^^^ Exactly!
I have spent about $200 to stockpile. It includes 1.5 L of nic (about 15 years for me) and one additional mod (eLeaf Pico). I do not plan to spend more, at least till July. If things will look bleak, I may buy two additional mods, cheap ones - I may never use them, so why to spend more than absolutely needed (or, hopefully, never needed)?

 

[Woofer]

I may never use them, so why to spend more than absolutely needed

Some ask why, I ask why not.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Just ordered another Serpent RTA from Vaporbeast. a bit over $20 including shipping with the CC YEAHBABY.
Get it while you can folks.
As I understand it neither 2058 or the other amendment in the Agriculture budget bill will stop vape gear from being classified as a tobacco product.
Therefore after 8-8-2016 several states will prohibit the online ordering of vape gear. And CC companies will deny online payment in many cases for such items.

Most cigarettes and smokeless tobacco products may not be mailed domestically or internationally by USPS. Cigars may be shipped internationally unless the country you are shipping to prohibits it.Oct 15, 2015

 

[Alien Traveler]

Some ask why, I ask why not.

Why?
Because instead of never to be used mod I can buy Booker's and use it immediately.