On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Woofer]

I still ask, who is going to pay for all this enforcement?

The same people who paid for all the junk science, internet subterfuge and anti smoking & vaping advertising on TV. You pay, same old same old...

 

[AnthonyB]

My FT order finally shipped. It's mostly rta's, parts, and some pico's. I'm not sure how far I will go before August. Probably just get a dozen kayfuns and 10 of each part along with a 8 or so reg mods with removable 18650's.

Nic is obviously the biggest threat so I'm going to add a gallon to the freezer soon. That + what I already have on hand will last myself and 3 other people over a decade.

Even if my state cracks down on online ordering I kinda doubt the slow mail from China will be cut off. Even if it is then I'll still be able to get stuff from B&Ms. I have a hunch that smart B&Ms will do custom orders at a fair price. Group style orders not just a piece here and there. Im a good negotiator. I'll find a smart and reasonable owner to agree on a fair markup of a large order.

I could easily see B&Ms who don't want to deal with the manufacturer regs this summer easily move a lot of hardware if online sales become difficult. A good business model over the next couple years honestly without dealing with mixing and twisting.

The one thing I'm trying hard not to do is buy a bunch of stuff I really don't need. I'm a simple MTL vaper. Kayfuns would keep me happy basically forever. As well as the 3 people I mix for.

This is kind off topic but I've been considering get a kayfun or 3. I've only ever owned one kayfun clone I got from Fast Tech a couple of years ago.

What's the difference between the original kayfuns which were more mouth to lung and the current crop like the kayfun minis (mini 4 just came out)? Apart from the fact the latter are for lung inhaling has the quality improved in other ways? What should I get ? I do both MTL and lung inhales.

Would it be worth it to buy some original kayfuns ?

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

I noticed this on my very recent first FT order but didn't give it much thought.

Fasttech uses a person's name and address as their return address on shipments.

Good luck catching that Vape Gestapo unless you want to x-ray every single piece of mail entering
the U.S. from China.

To anyone who's received a package from Fasttech
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[Bob Chill]

This is kind off topic but I've been considering get a kayfun or 3. I've only ever owned one kayfun clone I got from Fast Tech a couple of years ago.

What's the difference between the original kayfuns which were more mouth to lung and the current crop like the kayfun minis (mini 4 just came out)? Apart from the fact the latter are for lung inhaling has the quality improved in other ways? What should I get ? I do both MTL and lung inhales.

Would it be worth it to buy some original kayfuns ?

I've been using kayfun lite clones that I bought almost 2 years ago. I'm easy on my gear and have never stripped or broken anything. I wrap 1.0-1.4ohm coils and rayon or cotton wicks. I only vape mouth to lung. They have been good to me.

I bought a subtank and ended up giving it away. I can't do subohm and airy draws. My FT order includes Kayfun v3 minis. Mostly for my wife but I have a feeling I'm going to really like them to. Adjustable airflow will be nice. If I like them I'll buy the mini plus version. They v5 clones will be out soon to. Looks like another excellent tank.

From what I've seen on reviews, you can do direct inhale with the v3 but it's not a good tank for chucking giant clouds. I love simple single coil builds so kayfuns are really all I personally need for basically forever.

Original vs clones is a controversial topic around here. Personally, the price of a good clone is too good and the quality I've had has always been solid. My economics say 8 clones for the price of an original makes the decision easy.

I never had shinyitis. I like to wear my stuff out before I buy anything new. If anything I get a little sad retiring a beloved tank or mod. Lol

 

[AnthonyB]

My problem witH flavors is that I exclusively mix Hangsen tobaccos. They are all I vape. I would be mad as a hornet if I cant get their concentrates anymore. Unfortunately you can't stockpile flavors for 10+ years like you can nic base.

You might have to become a bit of tourist in China every couple of years. I hear Tiananmen Square is nice in the autumn.

 

[chanelvaps]

I've been using kayfun lite clones that I bought almost 2 years ago. I'm easy on my gear and have never stripped or broken anything. I wrap 1.0-1.4ohm coils and rayon or cotton wicks. I only vape mouth to lung. They have been good to me.

MInd sharing a link? Page after page of KF clones at FT.
thanks

 

[Bob Chill]

You might have to become a bit of tourist in China every couple of years. I hear Tiananmen Square is nice in the autumn.

Ha! I have a hunch I'll still be able to get the flavors. If not, I like unflavored too. I'll just go that route. I like a couple desert flavors but I just can't do them every day. One thing about unflavored is it doesn't get any easier to mix. And wicks/coils last forever.

 

[herb]

This is kind off topic but I've been considering get a kayfun or 3. I've only ever owned one kayfun clone I got from Fast Tech a couple of years ago.

What's the difference between the original kayfuns which were more mouth to lung and the current crop like the kayfun minis (mini 4 just came out)? Apart from the fact the latter are for lung inhaling has the quality improved in other ways? What should I get ? I do both MTL and lung inhales.

Would it be worth it to buy some original kayfuns ?

Not imo , the original Kayfuns provide outstanding flavor and are trouble free , the Kayfun 4 did not impress me .

Seems to me the newest Kayfuns have much better airflow but other than that i still think the EH Pro Kayfun lite V2 versions are an absolute steal for around $10.00 a pop and are far better than the ones Fasttech offers.

I have both

The Kayfun optional Monster V2 base that FT sells for under $4.00 makes the Kayfun lites into fire breathers .

 

[Bob Chill]

MInd sharing a link? Page after page of KF clones at FT.
thanks

No prob.

This is the mini v3 I ordered. I bought 3 to test out.

$13.18 Kayfun Mini V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2ml / 316 stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Here's the v3 + with larger capacity. This will probably be in my next order once the v5 comes out. I'll get both. lol.

$18.44 Kayfun Mini V3 Plus Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 3.5ml / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I don't think that one fits on a Pico though. Diameter is a little too big. This one will fit on a Pico so I'll end up buying this one also just for fun.

$22.08 Kayfun V3 Plus 1.5 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 3.2ml / 316 stainless steel + glass / 22.5mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

This one just came out. I always wait for reviews to make sure it's not inherently flawed. It will be interesting to see what people think about this one over the next month.

 

[3mg Meniere]

I noticed this on my very recent first FT order but didn't give it much thought.

Fasttech uses a person's name and address as their return address on shipments.

Good luck catching that Vape Gestapo unless you want to x-ray every single piece of mail entering
the U.S. from China.

To anyone who's received a package from Fasttech
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Leave it to the Chinese to figure out something like that! LOL!

 

[Two_Bears]

Not imo , the original Kayfuns provide outstanding flavor and are trouble free , the Kayfun 4 did not impress me .

Seems to me the newest Kayfuns have much better airflow but other than that i still think the EH Pro Kayfun lite V2 versions are an absolute steal for around $10.00 a pop and are far better than the ones Fasttech offers.

I have both

The Kayfun optional Monster V2 base that FT sells for under $4.00 makes the Kayfun lites into fire breathers .

You should try the Kayfun Monster v3.

Even better airflow than the v2.

 

[chanelvaps]

Those FT people URGGHH
I ordered two original istick 20 watt last month. 10 days later I received an email that they would not get through customs and i had a choice of cancelling the whole order or canceling those items only. I choose to cancel those items only. I responded to the email and I canceled them at the order in process page. I then ordered them elsewhere and because the price was cheaper I got 3.. Three days later I get an email telling me I could not cancel those items as they have already shipped?? I tried to communicate in a sensible way and responded with a copy of the original email they sent and it was like talking with a toddler..4-5 days of emails back and forth with them saying basically "HUH? WHAT? what are you talking about? can you give us order number please? we no understand what you are talking about"
It is less frustrating to just end up with 5 isticks

 

[Yiana]

You should try the Kayfun Monster v3.

Even better airflow than the v2.

I'm picking up three of those babies next week. Also going to start stockpiling picos. I'm just bummed out I only have two months to do hardware stockpiling. Well, at least I have a little money to. I just wish I had more time. I really think online sales are going to be screwed.

 

[Yiana]

Those FT people URGGHH
I ordered two original istick 20 watt last month. 10 days later I received an email that they would not get through customs and i had a choice of cancelling the whole order or canceling those items only. I choose to cancel those items only. I responded to the email and I canceled them at the order in process page. I then ordered them elsewhere and because the price was cheaper I got 3.. Three days later I get an email telling me I could not cancel those items as they have already shipped?? I tried to communicate in a sensible way and responded with a copy of the original email they sent and it was like talking with a toddler..4-5 days of emails back and forth with them saying basically "HUH? WHAT? what are you talking about? can you give us order number please? we no understand what you are talking about"
It is less frustrating to just end up with 5 isticks

Crazy! Why did customs block it? Now I'm worried.

 

[Jingles]

Those FT people URGGHH
I ordered two original istick 20 watt last month. 10 days later I received an email that they would not get through customs and i had a choice of cancelling the whole order or canceling those items only. I choose to cancel those items only. I responded to the email and I canceled them at the order in process page. I then ordered them elsewhere and because the price was cheaper I got 3.. Three days later I get an email telling me I could not cancel those items as they have already shipped?? I tried to communicate in a sensible way and responded with a copy of the original email they sent and it was like talking with a toddler..4-5 days of emails back and forth with them saying basically "HUH? WHAT? what are you talking about? can you give us order number please? we no understand what you are talking about"
It is less frustrating to just end up with 5 isticks

Where did you find the 3 cheaper ones? I wouldn't mind picking some up as back ups. I am still using 2 of my original IStick 20's, but I know they won't last forever!

 

[Two_Bears]

Crazy! Why did customs block it? Now I'm worried.

Tge istick has a Lithium Ion battery.

A LOT of Li-On batteries have been blowing up or starting fires.

 

[Two_Bears]

a few months ago i tried to send an orphan RTA to a Friend. When. The lady at the US Snail heard eCig she said the couldn't ship the Atty to my Friend.

 

[Two_Bears]

Then i immediately went home put postage on the parcel and dropped it in a mail box.

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

The correct answer to the USPS interrogation is No, no, no, and no.

But, while It's not fragile, I'd appreciate you stamping it Fragile. Thank you.

(Stamping it Fragile gets it put in the Hand Sort bin, not the Machine Sort bin.)
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[Detroit Doug]

MInd sharing a link? Page after page of KF clones at FT.
thanks

I picked up eight of the Ehpro Kayfun Lite+ V2's for $9.95 ea and free shipping, at Vapor Range.

EHPRO

The only color they had was Rose Gold, but I didn't care about color.