On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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do not buy SKU 2013500 510 connector. Bought 2 to try and a 510 will not even screw in the first one. Have not even looked at the second one...
FT stuff stuff a crapshoot.
I would go with fatdaddy or varitube.
I should have said WILL go with.
I haven't tried that one,the ones i have are SKU 2095500 they are $1.95 each or 5 for $7.32.I've used a few of them in mods i've built,and they seem to hold up pretty good.I have several of the fd 510's though since he's about the only place to get the bottom feed 510's,and his core's won't fit the other brands,so i usually grab a couple with every order through him.
 

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Absolutely!
Stockpile what you really need
If the FDA Monster is stopped you will use it
If you stop vaping you have items other vapers would gladly buy from you.
Its hard to loose by being prepared.

I can't comprehend someone saying they're good for the vapocalypse because they bought a backup mod

Mr & Mrs Mowgli used to smoke $300 each per month.
Now she vapes for free and I DIY juice and stockpile.
We have 5 months worth of smoking $$ of gear hoarded.

my basics list (so far)
8 RX200
2 Renegade X
3 Boxer Mods
ipv3li
ipv4s
350 worth of crown tanks & coils
300 of rebuildable subohm tanks
and two Velocity RDAs
and a load of tootlepuff gear for emergency - Russian91, KFL+, SX Mini M, Provari 2.5s, Kabuki...

Mrs M uses a Nauti mini on a Provari mini
I have a half dozen 2.5s if she breaks her half dozen P2.5s
She's dropped her P thingy almost every night on a hardwood floor for over 2 years and no problem mon.
Brutal mod so she'll be good with an additional dozen Nautilus minis (steel cage of course :facepalm:)

Maybe I'll get to find out how long 15 mods will last
Maybe the FDAs overreach will be recognized and halted
What will a new-in-box black & red RX200 be worth in 2031? (hopefully $40 adjusted for inflation)
 
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do not buy SKU 2013500 510 connector. Bought 2 to try and a 510 will not even screw in the first one. Have not even looked at the second one...
FT stuff stuff a crapshoot.
I would go with fatdaddy or varitube.
I should have said WILL go with.
These are VERY robust, and work extremely well in temperature applications:
Cisco 510 Connector
 

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I can't comprehend someone saying they're good for the vapocalypse because they bought a backup mod

Mr & Mrs Mowgli used to smoke $300 each per month.
Now she vapes for free and I DIY juice and stockpile.
We have 5 months worth of smoking $$ of gear hoarded.

my basics list (so far)
8 RX200
2 Renegade X
3 Boxer Mods
ipv3li
ipv4s
350 worth of crown tanks & coils
300 of rebuildable subohm tanks
and two Velocity RDAs
and a load of tootlepuff gear for emergency - Russian91, KFL+, SX Mini M, Provari 2.5s, Kabuki...

Mrs M uses a Nauti mini on a Provari mini
I have a half dozen 2.5s if she breaks her half dozen P2.5s
She's dropped her P thingy almost every night on a hardwood floor for over 2 years and no problem mon.
Brutal mod so she'll be good with an additional dozen Nautilus minis (steel cage of course :facepalm:)

Maybe I'll get to find out how long 15 mods will last
Maybe the FDAs overreach will be recognized and halted
What will a new-in-box black & red RX200 be worth in 2031? (hopefully $40 adjusted for inflation)

14 Evolv Reference mods, built like a tank
Another half dozen high end mechs.
18 Aromamizer V2 attys, and 20+ spare glass tanks and oring kits
3000mg of nic in the freezer
12 spare DNA boards
20 Spare Evolv 510 connectors.
Knowledge to fix anything I have

Its called my "30 year plan".........
 

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I haven't tried that one,the ones i have are SKU 2095500 they are $1.95 each or 5 for $7.32.I've used a few of them in mods i've built,and they seem to hold up pretty good.I have several of the fd 510's though since he's about the only place to get the bottom feed 510's,and his core's won't fit the other brands,so i usually grab a couple with every order through him.
There is a new BF 510 "in production" right now and should be available soon. It was developed by our former squonk guru "GDEAL, and one of the suppliers named "Drunk_J". This is a 510 developed by hardcore squonkers for hardcore squonkers.

I dont squonk myself, and am not affiliated in any way, but after having seen the prototypes, I can tell you it smokes FD BF510's by miles.....

For any admins, just wanted to say that I am not selling or profiting from the product mentioned below nor am I affiliated in anyway with the company referred to below (but not named) other than giving them the design for the betterment of the bottom feeding community. If there is anything inappropriate, please PM me and let me remove the portion deemed so.

Hey folks, I do have something of interest to post. Think that I mentioned awhile back that Gdeal and myself developed a new 510 (the version I used on all my latest mods). Well we gave the design to another company who is not on ECF and we are in no way profiting from the sales, so think I can mention it (I'll check before posting the website). Anyway, we were able to improve on the design and had to make a few changes to allow for mass production. But the cool part is anyone can buy them from this particular website. You will have a choice of 12mm or 22mm flattop flange and it comes with everything needed for a manual or auto adjust 510. The only caveat here is they are 1mm flanges so you will need to purchase a spacer or larger o-ring to retrofit an existing GDNA or Peko. I will have more info on that once the production run is over and they are actually on the site for sale. But for now I can at least offer some pics and can assure you, it is absolutely not the source of my original 510s who had major quality issues. The guy we are working with gets top notch quality or we would have never agreed to give away the design.

But first I want to say this was nothing more than coincidence that I got my production samples in the same week as Peter. He and I are good friends and we both already knew about each others 510 designs. We have both been at this for quite a while as several of us vendors were tired of the quality issues from that other place. They weren't meant to be competing design in any way, simply different as he wanted a really high end manual 510 for his gorgous mod and we were looking for a cost effective quality 510 for anyone (and mainly bring the auto adjust feature to the masses). So just wanted to put that out there so nobody thinks any different. Matter of fact, he's sending me one of his 510s for the stunning pinch you fine folks gave to me. Wanted to keep it up to date with his latest creations.

As we already know I suck at pics, so here are some from Gdeal.

This is the 12mm version with everything except the negative solder terminal (we both forgot to include it in our pics, but you all have seen them before).



This is the 22mm version:



This is a top down so you can see the type of slot we went with to allow adjustment, but doesn't breach the sides of the pin. This is in a manual adjust configuration.


The auto adjust insulator setup. We added a washer to reduce wear on the o-ring.


Auto adjust at the engagement point (which gives us 2mm of travel to account for any atty on the market).


The manual adjust insulator setup.


A successful hard pressure test.


So anyway, hopefully they will be available soon for everyone and I will have further instructions for those wanting to retrofit a GDNA or Peko. Also should mention there was one minor change on the model in production now. The bottom insulator lip was reduced slightly to allow the negative retaining nut to slip over the insulator without having to remove the insulator. Anyway, hopefully folks will enjoy this small contribution to the bottom feeding community.
 

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There is a new BF 510 "in production" right now and should be available soon. It was developed by our former squonk guru "GDEAL, and one of the suppliers named "Drunk_J". This is a 510 developed by hardcore squonkers for hardcore squonkers.

I dont squonk myself, and am not affiliated in any way, but after having seen the prototypes, I can tell you it smokes FD BF510's by miles.....
That's great to see some other options popping up,thanks for posting it.From the pictures,it looks like they will be alot better than what i have been using,so now i gotta go find out more about them,and when they will be available haha.
 
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That's great to see some other options popping up,thanks for posting it.From the pictures,it looks like they will be alot better than what i have been using,so now i gotta go find out more about them,and when they will be available haha.
They will be available at Varitube.com soon. They are "in production" at the factory right now.

Again, not affiliated in any way, I just was privy to watching this thing grow up.
 

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They will be available at Varitube.com soon. They are "in production" at the factory right now.
Cool,good to know thanks.
I was browsing around the bottom feed section and wasn't finding anything on them,so it's good to know now where to get them at.Now i have to start stalking the varitube site haha.
 
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I have 6 liters of 100 mg of nic I broke them down to 250ml bottles and froze them
I use 120 ml 24mg juice a month I estimate I have enough to last me 15.8 years
Could somebody that knows chime in and tell me my math is correct thanks in advance
I come up with 17.3 years.
120 ml * 24mg * 12 months = 34,560 mg / year.
That's 0.3456 liters, meaning a liter will last you 2.89 years.
Times 6 is 17.3 years.
 

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Thank you Rossum I will last longer than I thought ..Will be in my late 70s shucks I may not live that long
I'm probably a few years younger than you. I have no idea how long I've got, but I'm sure I don't wanna wake up some morning years from now, wishing I'd bought more when it was readily available and cost almost nothing. A liter (that will last me roughly 2-1/2 years) costs just about what a carton of smokes last cost me, and I was buying one of those every 5 days.
 

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I don't understand why anyone would be reluctant to stockpile, particularly nic base. I started vaping in mid-December of 2013 (the day before I joined ECF). Four day later I had my last cigarette. Two weeks later, I decided there was no way I'd ever let the goobermint take this miracle away from me and ordered my first liter of 100mg nic base. I've bought another liter every few months since then and will keep doing so as long it's available at a reasonable price from reputable sources. Sadly, I don't think that's gonna be for a whole lot longer.

I look at it this way: Even if Congress or the Courts slap down some of the most onerous provisions of the Dooming Regs and the vapestuff we know and love remains available, I think it's almost inevitable that the juice and nic base will end up getting taxed at levels comparable to traditional tobacco products, which means it will be far more expensive to buy later rather than sooner.
 

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............ If we get cut off it might be the thing that makes me move forward and do DIY and stop wasting money on juice

I've been making NET for years so actually DIY is/has been my thing but I still enjoy sampling retail offerings even though I usually end up giving them away. I would hate if the select few retail flavors I do enjoy were to disappear, become unavailable to me (no internet tobacco purchases) or became cost prohibitive to buy. I personally believe we have a few years left and intend to make the most of it with gluttonous, self-indulgent behavior. :)

Becoming proficient at DIY takes some time mainly in finding the individual concentrated flavorings -you- prefer but also in learning how and in what percentages to mix them in order to make a juice you really like. I make hybrid (flavored) NETs which is somewhat different than regular DIY due to the extraction process but it took over a year before I could produce a finished product as good or better than was available retail. It might be a really good idea for anyone who intends to continue vaping to learn how to DIY while they still have plenty of time to master the skill. No better time to start than the present and without a doubt it's a handy skill set to have "just in case". No matter what happens on the legal front, I'll still be able to enjoy vaping my favorite juice at a cost less than three cents per ml to make for the rest of my life. Peace of mind.....Priceless.
 

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In my opinion, stocking up on RDA's and RTA's should be the #1 priority. Unless you have access to a CNC machine, or know someone who does, you will not be able to make them yourself. The only problem with longevity for these items would be the insulators and the glass for tanks. I hope to see products hit the market that are purposes built to last a lifetime, before August. Some 3rd party company should start manufacturing ss tanks for all popular RTA's (any reccomendations in this area would be appreciated).

You can make your own mods with some basic soldering skills. The only components that the FDA could screw with are 510 connections and regulated boards, so stocking up on 510 connections would be a good idea. There are ways to make a regulated mod without e-cig specific boards, but stocking up on boards would be smart as well.

Planning to build your own mods is a more future proof endeavor than stocking up on the mass produced products currently on the market. If, like myself, you don't have a lot of disposable income, I would hardly bother. Making things is more fun anyway.
I would say that nic and attys are of primary importance and mods close afterward.
 

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That price is so good, I want to buy half a dozen. But, I haven't even tried the Subtank yet!

Didn't they used to make mods with coaxial cable ends? I wonder what threading that worked with. That was back in the days of 801 and 901 atties.

Subtanks are either a blessing or a curse.

I like them because i like Lung hits
Those that prefer MTL VAPING say they feel like they're drowning because they want a tighter airflow.
 

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I'm probably a few years younger than you. I have no idea how long I've got, but I'm sure I don't wanna wake up some morning years from now, wishing I'd bought more when it was readily available and cost almost nothing. A liter (that will last me roughly 2-1/2 years) costs just about what a carton of smokes last cost me, and I was buying one of those every 5 days.

Ditto. Three years worth of quality nic for the cost of a -single- carton of smokes. Not much more than many people currently spend on a weeks worth of retail juice. The fact nic stores almost indefinitely is just icing on the cake. With states eyeing potential revenue from our soon to deemed "tobacco products", I figure buying nic now is like having bought shares of Microsoft stock for $10 back in the 80's. Since there is absolutely -zero downside- to stockpiling it, I've invested appropriately. :thumb:
 
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