On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Two_Bears]

Thank you Two Bears for the advice on the Subtank mini, I dont suppose the minis head is interchangeable with the nano head are they? And back on subject, yes I too am prepared and stocked. Have been preparing for a couple years, I knew it was inevitable. Our state is also against online tobacco sales so you know we are going to be majorly restricted. If you need anything in the future let me know, were probably neighbors.

Tge OCC and SSOCC coil heads fits tge entire family of Subtanks.

The rba of the Subtank Mini is too wide to fit the nano.

The nano rba is supposed to be exactly tge same size of tge SSOCC coil heads

 

[Two_Bears]

Wizard Labs has 100mg on sale. A gallon for $269.99. Just an FYI.

Thanks for the heads up. I am sure some will stock up.

 

[Pamawoman]

Oh BTW I contacted them because they are in Altamonte Springs, FL and if you live close they will let you pick it up.

 

[coilspotting]

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A least 2 reviewers have said their screen gets hot on the 200S.

(sad face) I just ordered one...

 

[coilspotting]

LOL - Now I do feel my age. Just went to check my Nic count to see what I would have covered by Purchasing a Case(12 count) of 16oz Glass Bottles.

Realized I have 9 (1) Liters, NOT 7. Two were laying in the Freezer Door Tray

* As well as 2 500ml and several 240ml bottles. - All 100mg/ml so far.

****..........and still waiting for 2 x (1) Liter 200mg to arrive.

Oh heck, Can't take it with me. May as well spend it. Looks like 2 Cases make the most sense and less to lose in an incident.

Now to figure out how to tell the wife
But Honey, my Nic cost 1/2 what most are spending and the Bottles only bring the cost of one Nic purchase to = those.
~ actually I saved enough on the TH Nic to cover Bottles cost and stay at a $50 avg.

May I ask from whom (and price) you're getting 200mg/ml strength nic? That would be a real space saver, and since I already have to suit up to work with 100mg, not much diff in hassle.

 

[coilspotting]

What about converting normal Boston rounds to "NN Armor" like bottles (minus the gas)

Amazon has these in a number of different sizes: Amazon.com: Press in Bottle Adapter for Oral Medication Syringe (22mm - 25 Count): Health & Personal Care

Looks like an inexpensive way to turn a normal Boston round into a "NN like" bottle. These 22mm ones are fairly close. Close enough?

Ooh, I like it!!!

 

[coilspotting]

I'm wondering if I misunderstood the article I read on here, seems like it says everything can stay on the market until August 2018. Why are we stockpiling now?

This quote
"The effective date of the regulations will be approximately August 10, 2016. Manufacturers will have two years from that date to submit PMTA's for every product (meaning every vaping device and every e-liquid) they wish to stay on the market. If the manufacturer submits a PMTA within this two-year period, it will be allowed to stay on the market for one additional year unless the FDA makes a decision on its application prior to that additional 12 months. If the application is not approved, the product must be taken off the market."

From this article The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysisand Commentary: FDA E-Cigarette Deeming Regulations are a Disaster for Public Health

sounds like, to me, that I will beable to still buy anything I needuntil August 2018, am I missingsomething?

That's actually what I said, about 10 pages back lol.

 

[coilspotting]

Why sure, we all seem a bit more than a little paranoid. Why stock up now when there might be 2 years to do so?

The thing is, where I live online tobacco product sales are outlawed. How long will it be before the rest of the country/world decides to not ship to my state? I don't know about others but I'm not taking my chances.

Why worry about online sales as there is always B&M's popping up on every corner right? The way I see it, it is the online sales that keep the local B&M's in check. Unbridled competition. Take the competition away and what do YOU think the locals are going to do? Lower their prices? I think not.

Then there's the State and local taxes. Suddenly they have a new tobacco product line to tax. Recall that ~60-90% of the cost of a pack of smokes is taxes and you start getting the idea.

Yeah 08/08/17 we'll likely still be able to get much of what we can get now. However the $64 question is at what cost?

Since I'm able to afford it NOW I'm buying ahead. My guess is that before the Feds/State/Local's are done it might be less expensive to smoke cigarettes.

These are all unarguably good points. Personally I can't really afford it but I'm stocking up anyway, because the way I see it the prices can't go anywhere but up.

 

[coilspotting]

I can't find the pages where we were talking about juice calculators, but I wanted to add one note: I was specifically focused on online calculators because they're system-agnostic and you don't have to install them (and eJuice Me Up doesn't run on a Mac, for example, or on your phone, and I find this to be a HUGE downside). Anyway I just wanted to clarify because the discussion wasn't really comparing apples to apples. And I'd use eJuice Me Up in a heartbeat and pay for the privilege if they made it work natively on UNIX (or even better, on OS X or iOS). As it is, it's useless to me unless I want to run a virtual machine JUST for this app. I'm sure there are MANY in the same boat.

 

[Paramaniac413]

because the way I see it the prices can't go anywhere but up.

That is precisely what I'm afraid of. I'll be buying some NA Nic either later this month or early next month. A litre will last me between 9 and 13 years (depending on how I vape). 3 liters will last me until I'm at least 70. By that time I should either be at 0 Nic or in a home where they won't let you vape. lol


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[coilspotting]

JB Weld is marketed as a sort of "liquid metal" that sets up and is said to be hard as steel. It is used to rebuild "missing" metal, and re-build stripped threads, among other things.

JB Weld and Bondo are my BFFs 4evs lol!

 

[coilspotting]

Thanks for the heads up. I am sure some will stock up.

Does anyone have bad things to say about Wizard Labs? I've only used NN...

I did do a search and feedback was mostly very positive, especially about quality.

 

[mikepetro]

May I ask from whom (and price) you're getting 200mg/ml strength nic? That would be a real space saver, and since I already have to suit up to work with 100mg, not much diff in hassle.

e-liq.com

 

[b.m.]

May I ask from whom (and price) you're getting 200mg/ml strength nic? That would be a real space saver, and since I already have to suit up to work with 100mg, not much diff in hassle.

E-Liq.com has a liter of it for $67.99 plus shipping,after shipping mine came to $75

 

[Two_Bears]

These are all unarguably good points. Personally I can't really afford it but I'm stocking up anyway, because the way I see it the prices can't go anywhere but up.

The prices are guaranteed to go up.

There inflation. The Govt wants to tax the HELL out of vape supplies.

After 8/8 NO online sales.

It is Prudent to prep. May be silly to not prep

 

[Yiana]

E-Liq.com has a liter of it for $67.99 plus shipping,after shipping mine came to $75

That is where I'm getting my last order of nic. Add that to the nic in the freezer and I'm looking at least 40 years...which I will be 81.

 

[jmur]

Thanks for the heads up on the Vape Happy sale on the Kanger Subtanks guys.

Those were a great deal. I picked up three.

Yes, thank you also. Wasn't aware of them before. Just put an order in for more Subtanks. Just for a bit more insurance

 

[Paramaniac413]

So, as someone who doesn't have a freezer to put Nic in at the moment (please no judging - my current loving situation with my parents means my chest freezer needs to stay in storage and I can't keep Nic in my parents freezer upstairs), would keeping something like the Nude Armor in their sealed containers in ammo cans in our cool basement for a year or so alter things too much? I may even use my food saver vacuum sealer to put an extra layer on the outside of the bottles. What do you think?


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[salemgold]

That Vape Happy sale sure has gotten around lol Those of you that took advantage of it may also have interest in these deals.

Kanger Subtank Owners. This is a Steal and is in the Gearbest US Warehouse to boot. 5 pack of authentic coils for $6.38

http://www.gearbest.com/electronic-c...010.html?wid=2

Kanger Subtank Mini RBA Plus $5.16 in US Warehouse
http://www.gearbest.com/accessories/...383.html?wid=2

China Warehouse but great deal and ship free
Replacement Glass Tank for Kanger SUBTANK MINI Clearomizer

 

[jmur]

would keeping something like the Nude Armor in their sealed containers in ammo cans in our cool basement for a year or so alter things too much?

I'm far from an expert on this, learning more and more like most here, but I would say, based on all I've been reading, is if that you'd be fine if that is what your current situation is. I've heard some folks talk about keeping it in a dark, cool closet for lengthy time, with no degradation. Just keep in mind, that's only my thoughts...