On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Two_Bears]

I definitely think mech mods would survive the apocalypse

Yes tgey woukd. They would also survive an EMP.

Regulated mods woukd be wiped out by EMP

 

[Two_Bears]

If you care to drive there. You can't even fly a liter of nic (or shampoo for that matter)

I thought tsa had rules 3 Oz liquid in bottles. I don't think you want to try try to get 11 3 Oz plastic bottles through TSA.

In 2004 my suitcase was opened and the TSA or employees stole a bushcraft knife, and my life sustaining medication that was supposed to be tge protected cargo bay.

 

[Two_Bears]

Just think about the online poker players who also didn't think they would be affected when they banned online poker.

We've got less than two months now, if you don't prep expect to go back to Tobacco like they want or be happy with cigalikes from big tobacco.

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I know as well as you do. Some people thunks a Knight in shuning armor will ride to their rescue.

Hope for tge best but prep for the worst because the knight in shining armor may be later or not come at all.

 

[Two_Bears]

Simply your own Completely Unsubstantiated or backed up GUESS.


A few instances that you offer ZERO back up to Are Not substantiation of any FACT.



Exactly Who is it that is pipe dreaming here?
At least I offer some fact based backup to my opinions that few here have actually attempted to refute. Someone saying Oh I HEARD this somewhere, so this means it's gonna happen to Everyone Everywhere is MY idea of nonsensical.

And you can Count on me to call out baseless Sky is Falling mania inciting whenever *I* see it.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

You can lead a horse to water but you can't mske him drink.

 

[Two_Bears]

You continue to insist there is ZERO PROBLEM. When I and others dispute that and discuss the high degree of risk you then defend yourself by insisting we prove a 100% chance of supply disruption.

You refuse to recognize the risks associated with assuming any adverse consequences from the inclusion of vape supplies as tobacco products. I won't play your game. I will continue to demand you prove there is ZERO RISK. Nothing in anything you've said proves ZERO RISK.

You would probably have similar success arguing with a wall.

I don't waste my time with those "Don't confuse me with the facts. My mind is made up.".

 

[Two_Bears]

I'm done here. You have reading deficiencies I cannot overcome. I NEVER said that my opinion was 100% certain to be how it happens. In Fact, I've even offered the scenarios where I think we Could Still Have issues and the chances for and against them. I HAVE offered Factual Back Up reasoning which no one has stood up and said was wrong. Just that they disagree. That Doesn't mean it's Incorrect.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

See Ya. Have a nice life.

 

[Two_Bears]

If you are not interested in stocking up, why are you in a "Stockpiling" thread?

Ever hear of a Contrarian who has to disagree just because you make a statement

Some people have a problem seperating the messages from the messenger.

I agree 100% with Hitler on the care of dogs but disagree 100% on his opinion on the treatment of human beings.

 

[Two_Bears]

That's where I'm fortunate, storing nic in the freezer costs me nothing but space. I use a large industrial freezer that would be running anyway, it's where I store bulk meat purchases and the free half a beef I get each year. In truth I would gladly pay the annual electric cost just for the nic, peace of mind is indeed priceless.

Nothing but peace of mind knowing yoy can vape NO matter what the Bureaucrats do.

 

[Two_Bears]

Blue skies forever optimism is a nice plan...until the storm hits. I see huge dark clouds moving my way and will prepare accordingly. Those that haven't can just feed their vaping habit from the corner store with the approved cig-a-likes.

Or go back on the stinkies.

 

[Two_Bears]

Now, the real question is:

Is there anything Wrong with Personal Choice to take precautionary actions?


I Vape
I Vote
I worry
I Care

Hear hear!

When a Bureaucrat threatens to do something i pay attention. I have seen some of tge stupidest rules passes.

A boy had to hike so many miles for a merit badge. He lived in Texas with dangerous and posoinous animals and snake. The boy Scout was too young to carry a gun so his dad went on the hike to protect his son if necessary.

A liberal saw a gun and called the police. And the police trampled all over tge fathers second ammendment rights.

Hope for tge best prepare for the worst.

 

[Two_Bears]

The fable of The Grasshopper and the Ant comes to mind.

I'm taking the Ants lead [emoji57]

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Ditto!

If sonething is important to me i prep so my choice can't be interferred with by bureaucrats

 

[Two_Bears]

Dear Ocala guy,
If eliquid is deemed a tobacco product, Marion Co will tax the snot out of it.

Maybe he doesnt care. He may not even be a vaper.

 

[Two_Bears]

There aren't County taxes in Marion country on Tobacco. They get an apportioned amount of the State taxes.
Generally, Gov. Scott has reduced and even elimanated taxes.
The plaintiff in one of the big FDA suits is Halo, only about 150 miles from the State Capitol.

At least under Scott, I would be surprised at any New tax that would be onerous to any one
particular industry. Not gonna happen.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Keep thinking those good thoughts. I sincerely hope you are right. But i prep just in case you are wrong.

 

[Two_Bears]

Wasn't Florida one of the very first states to sue BT and win guaranteed annual payments? Doesn't BT add $0.44 to every pack sold in Florida -just- to cover the cost of making those annual payments? Isn't that in addition to the $1.339 per pack Florida charges for state excise tax? So doesn't Florida "actually" get around $1.78 per pack ($17.80 from every carton), for cigarettes sold there?

They sure were because the aging smokers moving there after retirement.

 

[Two_Bears]

OK. I understand that a Mech Mod would still work after an EMP.
How to charge batteries?
Would solar panels that are currently available withstand EMP?
Any sort of 10K+ mah storage device that would?
Are all of the consumer level 18650 chargers chipped in some way or are there any that would survive?

Even the simplest chargers at RTD advertise reverse polarity protection, etc

NO. An EMP would fry solar panels unless the solar Cell was protected.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

Someone in China will. I may get a warehouse in MX and do orders for all but USA eventually..

I'll get Mexico to pay for it!

 

[Yiana]

NO. An EMP would fry solar panels unless the solar Cell was protected.

Get a solar generator and put it in a faraday cage. Problem solved. I plan on eventually doing that. Whether an emp by. terrorists or a mass coronary solar flare. Look up the Carrington Effect from 1859. Imagine now with all of our infrastructures and satellites getting hit. It won't be pretty and a better outcome than TEOTWAWKI would be months without electricity.

 

[Pamawoman]

So it took the government 13 years to figure out that alcohol prohibition was a mistake. So I am praying it only takes them half as long to figure out that ecigs are actually a GOOD thing. So how much nic for 8 years. I know there is a way to figure it out but I am horrible at math. I have the correct numbers though. If anyone can help? I vape 3 ML of 12 mg a day. I will be buying more nic then I already have but need a total. Any help?

 

[Yiana]

So it took the government 13 years to figure out that alcohol prohibition was a mistake. So I am praying it only takes them half as long to figure out that ecigs are actually a GOOD thing. So how much nic for 8 years. I know there is a way to figure it out but I am horrible at math. I have the correct numbers though. If anyone can help? I vape 3 ML of 12 mg a day. I will be buying more nic then I already have but need a total. Any help?

According to my calculations a liter would do you for 13 1/2 years.

 

[BillW50]

So it took the government 13 years to figure out that alcohol prohibition was a mistake. So I am praying it only takes them half as long to figure out that ecigs are actually a GOOD thing.