On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Two_Bears]

FINALLY! Someone that speaks my language regarding an EMP! Also, prepare for a Jihad as well. Rioting of course will immediately follow the EMP. The FDA issue is being advocated strongly. But I still don't see the regulations being withdrawn or loosened much, if not at all.

I too am stocking up. I have nearly 1,000ml of juice - for now. I was told not to DIY due to special handling of the nic. I'd appreciate any guidance re nic handling. I know it needs to be done in a vented location. I am quite .... about my vape equipment/juices. Really, ANY DIY TIPS would be appreciated.

I'm just now ordering mods and parts - especially glass replacements and replacement coils for the few tanks I have that require them. And 18650s! I'm really liking the iStick Pico I just received and love my Sigelei SPARK. I'll be ordering duplicates of those as well as others. I have some smaller battery mods but they are of no significance. I have my shopping cart at fasttech at $1,200. Do I like fasttech?...No. Do they have what I want?....Yes. And I'm not pleased at all that they remove the authenticity sticker for security purposes?!? WTH??? Has anyone received an clone vs. authentic equipment from them? I converted my cart to a PDF so I can shop elsewhere and not forget anything. I will be storing like you, Two_Bears. Same security & containers.

To me and my Bug Out friends, the Jihad will most likely precede the EMP as soon as this summer. The EMP we feel will happen November through perhaps January - at which time all hell will again break loose with rioting, etc. I was told by a BOB friend to line my ammo boxes with corrugated cardboard...same with new metal trash cans. wrap your electronics heavily in tin foil, and oh, wrap with something else. Line tightly with corrugated cardboard and secure lid with masking tape, NOT electrical tape! Rubber makes sense to me though. I've also spent thousands on BOB gear and Bug In necessities. This should be another thread entirely - if permitted by Admin.

Where are you getting your rubber, Two_Bears?

You should DIY. Back when i used nicotine the first thing i did was break tge nicotine base into 8 120 ml (4 fl Oz bottles) and stashed them in the freezer. The bottles were #1 plastic. #1 plastic doesnt have BPA in it, and can tolerate low Temperatures without becoming brittle and breaking. Best part it wont break if you drop it or even bump it in tge freezer moving stuff around.

About rubber to wrap gear in inside a metal box would be an inner tube.

My sister bought a roll of crepe rubber to line her shelves to keep stuff from sliding around in a chaotic mess. She had quite a bit left over so i took a piece about 45 centimeters by 45 centimeters (18 X 18 inches).

 

[Two_Bears]

Something to think about is cooking with these flavors, they have been inhaled for years while cooking. Hence they give off that yummy buttery or bread or pie or cake smells we all know If anyone has cooked they know these smells go right into your nose and you breath them in. How many of us that use flavoring inhale that smell first? I know I do

You sure got that right.

NO one takes a new flavor and adds it into what you are making without a sniff test to determine the strength of the flavor.

When ever there are picnics or parties I am the one they ask to bake the pies and cakes.

 

[house mouse]

Should I preserve the Provaris and Caravela, and continue vaping with my Vision Spinners and eGo-styles until those die, then switch to the Provaris and Caravela?

I might approach that a little differently. I bought a Provari 3-4 years ago that ended up having some electronic issues very soon after I received it. I can't remember the exact issue but I believe that it would work well for awhile, then completely quit. Then start up again and quit again. Contacted Provape, sent it back and they corrected the issue. No problem with it anymore and it still works fine now. It is EXTREMELY rare to have an issue with a Provari out of the gate like that. But I've recently bought 4 more and remembering the past experience I'm using each one(one at a time) for 2 weeks of hard use. As in daily, non stop use. Once they hit that 2 week mark of hard hitting, daily driving I feel pretty confident that it's reliable and put it in the stash box. If one started being temperamental then I'd know it now, and can get it back to Provape while there's still time.

So I'd suggest using the Provari for 2-3 weeks just to make sure, then put it away and go back to the Visions and eGos until they're dead.

 

[Two_Bears]

True. There are a few videos out to show you how to clean your build coils without dry burning. Also, on how to clean your replacement coils. I've clean a dozen OCC coils. They come out white and clean every time. And I'm a high VG user. I bought a really good juice from Zeus. Very flavorful. I finally read the extremely small print and found it's 70PG. No wonder. I have no plain VG and don't want to ruin the flavor with my 100VG Vanilla Bean.

Does anyone know of a vendor other than Yaeliq that let's you customize your vg/pg and nic level? I'm still putting some 24mg in my tanks. Not quite ready for all 18mg yet, although I tried. Craving is there slightly and find myself going for 3 puffs once or twice a day. Been vaping for about 10 months.

Try setting up two tanks. One with 18 mg and the other with 24 mg.

Vape the 18 during the day. And vape the 24 mg when you really really want a cigarette after coffee in the morning or after a meal.

Another thing that can force you to drop your nicotine level is to go sub Ohm.

Most people sub ohming find they can't vape 12 and up nic. Most lower their nic to 6 or 9 mg.

 

[Two_Bears]

Lightningvapes.com is having a sale for the next 6 hours - 20% off. 500 feet of 26 gauge kanthal is only $16.80. Based on my calculations, I now have enough wire for 16.81 years.

I know wire is low down the list for those materials "generally recognized as necessary" for stockpiling, but I couldn't help myself.

I agree. I feel the same way. Prep and you don't have to worry if the _______ Bureaucrats pass laws that resistance wire can't be purchased by individuals.

 

[Two_Bears]

The FDA's is using teenagers and children as their primary reasoning behind all of this. The regulations on users, vendors and manufacturers are to strengthen and justify their ruling. But THEN there's BIG TOBACCO. The deal with the FDA is all but written in stone. The obvious question they never dare address is the putting the same restrictions on tobacco products.Where is THEIR list of ingredients? So, we now must live with an unethical, discriminatory and absurd Bill to make users of SAFE vaping, which saves lives, return to increase Big Tobacco's revenue. I wonder how much money was slipped under the table to do this? The FDA will have plenty of lawsuits coming their way by family members who have had loved ones die after returning to tobacco from vaping.

The ______ Bureaucrats always use "its for the children" to take more and more of our liberties away.

How about a little responsibility?

 

[VNeil]

I might approach that a little differently. I bought a Provari 3-4 years ago that ended up having some electronic issues very soon after I received it. I can't remember the exact issue but I believe that it would work well for awhile, then completely quit. Then start up again and quit again. Contacted Provape, sent it back and they corrected the issue. No problem with it anymore and it still works fine now. It is EXTREMELY rare to have an issue with a Provari out of the gate like that. But I've recently bought 4 more and remembering the past experience I'm using each one(one at a time) for 2 weeks of hard use. As in daily, non stop use. Once they hit that 2 week mark of hard hitting, daily driving I feel pretty confident that it's reliable and put it in the stash box. If one started being temperamental then I'd know it now, and can get it back to Provape while there's still time.

So I'd suggest using the Provari for 2-3 weeks just to make sure, then put it away and go back to the Visions and eGos until they're dead.

Good advice here to use the mods for 2-4 weeks to get past the infant mortality stage. And for $35 now I would buy another Provari and use it all the time, myself. As long as the 14 watt limitation works for you.

 

[Two_Bears]

I might approach that a little differently. I bought a Provari 3-4 years ago that ended up having some electronic issues very soon after I received it. I can't remember the exact issue but I believe that it would work well for awhile, then completely quit. Then start up again and quit again. Contacted Provape, sent it back and they corrected the issue. No problem with it anymore and it still works fine now. It is EXTREMELY rare to have an issue with a Provari out of the gate like that. But I've recently bought 4 more and remembering the past experience I'm using each one(one at a time) for 2 weeks of hard use. As in daily, non stop use. Once they hit that 2 week mark of hard hitting, daily driving I feel pretty confident that it's reliable and put it in the stash box. If one started being temperamental then I'd know it now, and can get it back to Provape while there's still time.

So I'd suggest using the Provari for 2-3 weeks just to make sure, then put it away and go back to the Visions and eGos until they're dead.

Absolutely. Use all of tge mods with internal batteries first.

I am using my Mini Volt. After it curls up its toes then there are my two Pico's, two eVic VTC Mini. My istick60tc, Cloupor Mini plus and my Sigelei75. Yes i am well aware that is 8 mods.;-)

 

[Two_Bears]

I think your getting a little greedy with the provaris, save some for the rest of us!

Thats ok. You're more than welcome to scarf up my share. I wont complain.

 

[Iron Molly]

I agree with this. My mom (age 70+) was so very very confused about all the wick, coil, variable etc that it just was not possible. She is currently smoking and not doing well.

If she lives close enough, would it be possible to make up a bunch of base plus coil and wicks for her every so often? That way all she would have to learn is how to replace a ready to go base weekly. Then you could re-wick/recoil for her maybe once per month. That's what I'd do if it was me.

 

[Two_Bears]

Good advice here to use the mods for 2-4 weeks to get past the infant mortality stage. And for $35 now I would buy another Provari and use it all the time, myself. As long as the 14 watt limitation works for you.

The voltage would work for me. The length of the Provari to use an 18650 battery is the killing point for me. I'm a guy. I need mods that are pocket Friendly especially since i only have 1 1/2 hands.

 

[Two_Bears]

Going to go and sit in a corner and cry now... that is a nice collection!

Well what us stopping you from creating your colection? I already gave you permision to scarf up my share of the Provaris.

 

[Two_Bears]

Apparently

That guy looks like he has around a hundred. I would like to be in his will.

There ya go. Thats the Spirit!

 

[Two_Bears]

Wire is a must have for a BOB.

I have 100 feet Kanthal, 3 attys, a few vape tools and a supply of Rayon in my bug out bag.

Have considered putting 200 feet Kanthal in a buried caches but concerned about rusty Kanthal.

 

[Two_Bears]

I've been thinking about this. Sure there are those 'wantabes' that never secured their supply of smokes. They would show up for a weekend outing with 1/2 a pack and admittedly smoke 1PAD. Those of us that prepared would offer comments such as "so your quitting this weekend eh?".

I have no sympathy for those folks.

I suppose there are a BUNCH of folks that simply wander into their local B&M to get supplies. Unless the B&M mention the deeming their customers have no idea. The same goes for every 'vaping' related website I've made purchases from over the last few weeks and months. Not a peep on the deeming.

So unless something is mentioned on the 6pm news it is rather doubtful that John/Jane Q. Public vape user knows what is going on. Unless of course they venture to sites such as this one.

Then again the 4 local B&M's that I've wandered into in the last few weeks did not mention a thing about what is going on to me. I had to ask. All of them downplayed the situation rather than voice concern and outline the steps they are doing to fight it because their business will be greatly effected by it.

I have enough nicotine to last a very very long time. I have more mods and RTAs than I know what to do with. I vape unflavored so don't have to worry about that. Wire and cotton I can get from non-vaping related sources.

I'm prepared.

I agree with you 100%

Those without taking personal responsibility will be the ones screeching the loudest when they are forced back on the smokes.

Ive been prepping for 43 years since taking my survival course in 1973.

When you sit down and think of ways to survive almost anything you can't help but bringing that attitude to other parts of your life.

MH sister could never get my prepping mentality until a friend Karen RAN out of food. I went to my stash abd started pulling out rice, powdered soups, instant potatoes, abd freeze dried vegetables, abd just gave them to her.

A month or two later Doris a friend that lived in the same RV Park RAN out of food i did the same thing. GIVING stuff away sometimes helps me in my food rotation.

After she saw sometimes there is a problem with food. She never questioned my prepping again.

 

[mikepetro]

Very good source for atty wire. It is an industrial source, not a vape shop.

 

[Two_Bears]

So, I still haven't bought a mech yet. How much would you charge for just ONE of those things if I don't buy one before vapocalypse?

Don't yell at me Two Bears, I've been blowing all my cash on nicotine base.

Brother i have NO reason to yell at you. YOU DID THE RESPONSIBLE THING and prepped what you could afford to prep.

Prepping leads to saving a LOT of money.

I have several buried caches over The Catalina foothills, and everything in those caches will be good for 20 years or so, and 8 months of food in the RV. Most of this food is dehydrated and good for 5 years or more.

Since i have 8 months of food under my bed, in the pantry, and in the Fridge.. When my food in the pantry and fridge runs low i have another 4-5 months of food under mg bed so i can time my purchases to coincide with sales on stuff i use.

 

[Two_Bears]

If she lives close enough, would it be possible to make up a bunch of base plus coil and wicks for her every so often? That way all she would have to learn is how to replace a ready to go base weekly. Then you could re-wick/recoil for her maybe once per month. That's what I'd do if it was me.

Thats the way i do for my sister. Before i got her switched to the RBA and she learned to install wicks i bought an extra set of 10 OCC coil heads. Told her to save the heads she used because i could rebuild them. I have the technology. ;-)

Then about every two weeks picked up her used coil heads snd left her a supply of rebuilt heads ready to vape.

All she had to do was set the wattage, fill the tank and replace the coil head.

For elderly. Set tge wattage and lock THR buttons so they can vape without accidentaly messing up the wattage.

 

[chanelvaps]

If she lives close enough, would it be possible to make up a bunch of base plus coil and wicks for her every so often? That way all she would have to learn is how to replace a ready to go base weekly. Then you could re-wick/recoil for her maybe once per month. That's what I'd do if it was me.

Sadly she is in California, I am in Georgia. If she were close enough, even hundreds of miles I would gladly go weekly and set her up. 2,800 miles is a little much. Heck I would even fly a couple times a year if she expressed any interest
I found a guy at a vape shop right down the street from her that listened to my story and agreed to help. This was over a year ago before this scare. I got her to agree to go in. He showed her how to change a coil in a pro-tank and how to work it. Showed her a spinner, and an MVP. She walked out with nothing and called me and said I just want to pop a cig in my mouth and light it and not have to mess around with all that nonsense~

 

[Rickb119]

I might approach that a little differently. I bought a Provari 3-4 years ago that ended up having some electronic issues very soon after I received it. I can't remember the exact issue but I believe that it would work well for awhile, then completely quit. Then start up again and quit again. Contacted Provape, sent it back and they corrected the issue. No problem with it anymore and it still works fine now. It is EXTREMELY rare to have an issue with a Provari out of the gate like that. But I've recently bought 4 more and remembering the past experience I'm using each one(one at a time) for 2 weeks of hard use. As in daily, non stop use. Once they hit that 2 week mark of hard hitting, daily driving I feel pretty confident that it's reliable and put it in the stash box. If one started being temperamental then I'd know it now, and can get it back to Provape while there's still time.

So I'd suggest using the Provari for 2-3 weeks just to make sure, then put it away and go back to the Visions and eGos until they're dead.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I recently bought 2 more 2.5's (already had 2 and 2 radius) and didn't even take them out of the box. Figured I'd break them out when/if needed in the future. I will now use them for a while, just to make sure.