On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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Another thing to add, I started out on the nautilus and it's a great tank. If you can afford it I can't recommend enough an Authentic SquapeRs. The build quality is amazing and the vape is divine. The Clones of the Squape are complete crap though. But seriously the authentic will last a lifetime, the Swiss know how to build quality

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I've heard those are good but never tried. My recommendation for something to "stockpile" (if I was going to even bother) would be to grab 1:1 Derringer from FT. It still IMO is the best dripper out there, quality is amazing, and I'm pretty sure they're under $10 still. Same goes for the Kayfun clones...great value and that gives you a tank.
 

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The best juices are actually made by individual people all over the world and not by companies. I personally feel that those that are in certain other countries (that I won't mention) won't have any problems shipping to the US. I would never vape any juice from China anyway and would always advise anyone - even now - not to do so.

As far as hardware, people will go back to making devices like they did in the old days. Back when I started vaping, we were buy electrical components that weren't even designed for vaping and building better box mods than you could buy from any company. There's no way that they're going to be able to stop that. Send a friend a paypal and he'll send you a mod.
Yep, simple single, parallel and series mods are so damn easy to make with easily off the shelf parts from anywhere. The bare minimum essentials one needs to stockpile is 100mg nic PG base and a half dozen 510 decks.

With that they are fine as long as they have a few backups of their tanks and a couple RDA'S.

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I'm a Nautilus user who has decided to stock some Kayfun Mini V3 clones from FT in the event I need a RBA in the future. $12.98 Kayfun Mini V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2ml / 316 stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

What replacement parts do I need? I'm overwhelmed by the O-ring section, not sure what goes with what - link, please?
You are free to get what you like; but personaly i would recommend THR Kayfun lite plus Atty. If you want a Lung hit option later get a few Kayfun Monster V3 bases, O rings, a few glass replacement tanks a few barrels FT calls them graphic tubes. A few chimneys. If you want an Atty that holds less liquid get the nano chimney and bell caps.

I say this because i only have one complaint about the Kayfun Mini V3. Its a great Atty but it is top filled, and if mine sets a day I have to close the Juice Control or i come back to a puddle of Juice just because the O rings On the drip tip are weak and don't create a proper vacuum.

You wont have that problem with a bottom filled Atty.

Other bennefits of older tech.

1. The full sized Atty holds more Juice. The Kayfun Mini V3 only holds 2 ml.

2. The replacement parts for the full sized Atty is much more abundant ie the O rings, screws, barrel, chimney, top caps, bases, etc.
 

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Hear, hear!

I'm very much hoping I'm wrong also, sad thing I don't believe we are. I believe that the best we can hope for is insane taxes and draconian regulations. It's all about the money and protection of the establishment

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Nothing would please me more than Congress to put that FDA dog on a very short leash where vaping is concerned. Darn Shame the FDA lets bad drugs on the market then years later yank them off after said "safe" drug has killed thousands of people.
 

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You are free to get what you like; but personaly i would recommend THR Kayfun lite plus Atty. ...
I say this because i only have one complaint about the Kayfun Mini V3. Its a great Atty but it is top filled, and if mine sets a day I have to close the Juice Control or i come back to a puddle of Juice just because the O rings On the drip tip are weak and don't create a proper vacuum.

You wont have that problem with a bottom filled Atty.
I am sure you are just unlucky with top-filled attyes. They are great, they are so much handier than bottom filled ones. And my top-filled atties (Kayfun 4, Subtank, Melo 3, Serpent Mini) do not leak. I would never recommend bottom filled atty.
 

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Make sure you have spare glass for all your tanks, and an all-metal replacement for when you have finally broken all the glass ones.
This is another reason why I think the subtank mini is a poor choice for prepping - not only does it take non-standard seals (as opposed to o rings) but it also does not have a metal tank option, at least I can't find one.

If I'm wrong about the metal tank, please give me a link so I can buy one for mine!
 
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I've heard those are good but never tried. My recommendation for something to "stockpile" (if I was going to even bother) would be to grab 1:1 Derringer from FT. It still IMO is the best dripper out there, quality is amazing, and I'm pretty sure they're under $10 still. Same goes for the Kayfun clones...great value and that gives you a tank.
In the same class is the Mako Shorty, Bambino, Freakshow Mini, Dinghy, Shorty.

Basically look at the short RDAs 18 mm tall (not counting 510 and drip tip) and less anf get the one with a build deck you like.

My two faves are the Dinghy and Freakshow Mini for flavor.

When i drip i use the Rogue just because it has top airflow and will not leak like a sieve if i accidentaly over drip.
 
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Another thing to add, I started out on the Nautilus and it's a great tank. If you can afford it I can't recommend enough an Authentic SquapeRs. The build quality is amazing and the Vape is divine. The Clones of the Squape are complete crap though. But seriously the authentic will last a lifetime, the Swiss know how to build quality

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A few years yes. A lifetime NEVER. all metals wear over time even diamonds.
 

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I am sure you are just unlucky with top-filled attyes. They are great, they are so much handier than bottom filled ones. And my top-filled atties (Kayfun 4, Subtank, Melo 3, Serpent Mini) do not leak. I would never recommend bottom filled atty.

Filling them is easy i will give you that.

But every ____ing top filled Atty i have tried has sooner or later PEED ON ME.

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Kayfun Mini V3
The short Atty that comes in the COV Mini Volt kit

The only bottom filled Atty that leaked on me was tge Aqua V2. The threads were so awful i had to shut it down to a MTL vape before it would stop leaking around the threads.

I have Two Serpent Mini authentics COMING. If they leak i am going to drop kick them into the next millenium!
 

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Make sure you have spare glass for all your tanks, and an all-metal replacement for when you have finally broken all the glass ones.
This is another reason why I think the subtank mini is a poor choice for prepping - not only does it take non-standard seals (as opposed to o rings) but it also does not have a metal tank option, at least I can't find one.

If I'm wrong about the metal tank, please give me a link so I can buy one for mine!
I have never seen a metal Tank option.
 

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Congress not only has the Right, they have a Responsibility to Do So.

They are supposed to be part of the Check and Balance so that an agency like the FDA doesn't go Off the Reservation like they have with e-Cigarettes.

You're assuming the FDA has gone off the reservation by it's own accord, chances are it was actually key members of congress that pushed the FDA to regulate/reign in vaping in the first place....
 

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You're assuming the FDA has gone off the reservation by it's own accord, chances are it was actually key members of congress that pushed the FDA to regulate/reign in vaping in the first place....

No, I am Not Assuming that the FDA Leadership acts Independently.

And the HHS has fully bought into what the FDA has done.
 

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You're assuming the FDA has gone off the reservation by it's own accord, chances are it was actually key members of congress that pushed the FDA to regulate/reign in vaping in the first place....

No chances about it...............though they may not have had the Legal Right. Congressman Standing and Reading well crafted Propaganda Speeches Demanding another Agency take Action (Soon) equals Lobbying, not Law making.:glare:
 
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Make sure you have spare glass for all your tanks, and an all-metal replacement for when you have finally broken all the glass ones.
This is another reason why I think the subtank mini is a poor choice for prepping - not only does it take non-standard seals (as opposed to o rings) but it also does not have a metal tank option, at least I can't find one.

If I'm wrong about the metal tank, please give me a link so I can buy one for mine!
No problemo.
I have about 30 replacement glasses, about the same number of gasket sets, replacement bases, tops, RBA decks.
And 10 complete Subtank mini tanks.
Set for 20 years or more considering I have yet to replace a gasket or glass or any part aside from coils and wicks on the one tank I have been vaping on for 8 months. I also have bellcap tanks and topfill tanks for the STM.
 
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