One Week with the Janty Stick

[Zofryer]

I ordered my Stick from JantyUSA. Had it in my hands in three business days. (ordered like, on a wednesday, had it Monday)

Once again, I'm going to try to cover things not covered in the 10,000 other reviews on the Janty Stick

And I tell you what. I love the 510, and God bless the people out there in the forums defending their favorite thing in the world, but the Stick beats up and kicks sand all over the 510. I'm sorry. There is no comparison whatsoever. You can maybe try to get clouds of vapor almost as big as Janty Stick hits from a 510 if you mash your manual button and inhale as hard as you can, but I'm doing those clouds of vapor in short 3 second draws with zero effort. You are not going to get vapor production from a 510 atty on a e-cig battery that compares with a pen-style atomizer hooked up to a friggin e-cigar battery.

I can say in all honesty, when you sum up all of the things going for the Stick right now, there isn't a better PV you can get AS LONG AS size IS a consideration. And by that I mean, there are larger, heavier, more metalshop looking devices that will outperform it. But even then, the Janty Stick performance appears to be very close to the 100+ dollar boutique/mod PV's that bake atomizers to death. The design is brilliant. Take a huge atomizer, enclose it in a small case next to an e-cigar battery.

*huge vapor production
*cheap replacement parts
*long battery life
*compact size
*honest to goodness USB tethering out of the box
*looks like a nicotine inhaler rather than a cigarette or crackpipe. (that may or may not be a positive for you)

Plus, there are a variety of atomizers to choose from that ALL perform well. You got the Janty Classic which is fantastic, cheap dse801's from ruyandirect, or (what's becoming my favorite) be112's from bestecig, and a few others I haven't tried.

As for the "problems" people have been having I've seen two main gripes:

1) button on bottom comes loose.
2) Leaks liquid

The button thing appears to happen because the adhesive holding the very thin switch plate in place gets loose over time. I'm not terribly worried about this because I'd probably just reglue it. That is a consideration. I will say this though. If regluing it was NOT an option, my fix action would be to have two Janty Sticks. Dead serious. I may do that anyway. It's really that much better.

As for the leaky liquid thing, I swear it all has to do with overfilling. I had the issue myself briefly, and I changed how I topped off my carts. I don't drip because I don't see the point with an atomizer this big. The draw is ridiculously easy with the cart in place.

1) push tip of dropper onto top of cart material
2) squeeze juice into cart just until the top of the filler changes color
3) shake out access

I have had no problems with a leaky stick since. Granted, I'm doing something strange with my carts. I shred teabag material into long skinny strips, then pack it in slightly tight next to my version of a straw mod. I fill with the top of the straw. Liquid goes down the straw and fills up the cart from the bottom. That's why step 3 up there is part of my routine.

The only other gripe some people have is price, but I have some startling information. The Janty Stick *for me* would have been cheaper than anything else as an end-to-end solution. Let me throw some real world numbers at you based upon what I've actually bought to cover my vaping habit:

Dura-C kit: 60 bucks
Two Spare 510 batteries: 20 bucks
Five spare 510 Atomizers: 35 bucks
USB Pass-through that doesn't suck: 30 bucks

Total: 145

Janty Stick: 80
Two Spare e-cigar batteries: 6 bucks
Five Spare 801 Atomizers: 27 bucks
USB Pass-through that doesn't suck: 0 (included)

Total: 113

That's significantly cheaper for a vastly superior vaping experience.

I used to recommend the j118's to new people. Then I started recommending the 510's. Now I recommend the Janty Stick. At this point in time it has no equal.

PS: This doesn't mean you shouldn't have a good backup, and I can't think of a better one than a 510 tucked in a drawer/glovebox/purse/pocket/etc

 

[tribalmasters]

Nice review and you covered the switch problem and leaking problem well I noticed around my atomiser is liquid but I had been overdripping, a bad atomiser had me fooled into putting more drops in hehe!

 

[wv2win]

Nice analysis.

 

[wegster]

Good initial review. I've never considered the JS cost to be 'high,' for the reasons you point out. My two issues stopping me from purchasing the JS are only:
1. Quality - self evident by searching the forum. I don't believe the JS v1 will last, and look forward to seeing if they go with a metal casing or other improvements on v2.

2. Draw - I don't *like* a super easy draw, which it seems the JS v1 has, regardless of atty used.

Please report back after you've had it for a few weeks, as it's entirely possible the number of people with issues is exaggerated, as people with issues are more likely to post in general than the happy users..

 

[tribalmasters]

2. Draw - I don't *like* a super easy draw, which it seems the JS v1 has, regardless of atty used.

The draw on mine has tightened up quite a bit since I got it! I think that may be because the RN4072 atomisers have a nice draw anyway and the Janty ones holes have filled with crud a little I am going with the V2 when its available as the one I have has had the problems others are talking about.

 

[Zofryer]

Good initial review. I've never considered the JS cost to be 'high,' for the reasons you point out. My two issues stopping me from purchasing the JS are only:
1. Quality - self evident by searching the forum. I don't believe the JS v1 will last, and look forward to seeing if they go with a metal casing or other improvements on v2.

2. Draw - I don't *like* a super easy draw, which it seems the JS v1 has, regardless of atty used.

Please report back after you've had it for a few weeks, as it's entirely possible the number of people with issues is exaggerated, as people with issues are more likely to post in general than the happy users..

On Quality:

The quality is on par with say, any mass produced plastic device that has been engineered properly. And by that I mean (and I'm sure other owners can back this up) the confidence in durability you get with a motorola cellphone or a sandisk cruzer usb stick. So it's not like you are worried it's going to break to pieces if you drop it, but you aren't exactly going to back your car over it like you would with a 510. I do that all the time for fun. Just drive my car over my 510's. Doesn't phase em. The rumor mill says the V2 is still going to be plastic, and I'm completely cool with that for the *feel* reason. There's a feel to this thing. The way it sits in your hand, and the way it rides in a watch pocket in a pair of jeans. It's akin to the feel I get from other things that feel good in my hands like a zippo lighter, or a wacom pen, or your mom(kidding).

The draw thing is *the* main issue. If you don't like a light draw, you will hate the Janty Stick. No question. Here is my perspective on that though:

If you were looking for something to duplicate the analog experience, there isn't a product made right now that comes closer than a 510 with an automatic battery. However....

You aren't going to be doing mouth fills then inhales and get decent vapor production from a 510. Not anything close to the way an analog produces anyway. You'll end up doing lung pulls.

On top of that, you aren't going to stick with an automatic battery because they suck. You'll go manual, and the last time I checked, there isn't a manual button analog. So therefore:

If you are going to have to do lung pulls anyway, they might as well be twice as easy and produce double the vapor.

At least, that's what I tell myself. Out of the Atty's I have for the JS, I'd have to actually say the original "Classic" it came with has the hardest pull, with bigger vapor production. But we aren't talking about huge differences between the available atomizer options (so far). I've only tried three. Classic, BE112, and generic dse801's from ruyan direct. I'm tending to prefer the BE112's right now because the draw is easiest. *shrug*


EDIT: I wanted to add a bit about another "perception" you get with the Stick. To me, the 510 feels like a turbo-charged 4 cylinder. It rocks at what it does, but it works hard to do it. The Stick with the 801 style atty's feels like a huge lazy V8. It does what it does effortlessly, and you don't have this worry that it's going to fly apart under hard acceleration because it feels like no matter how hard you use it, it's not being stressed at all. That's actually something I like about it. Not to say the Atty doesn't get warm with hard use. Another reason I'm cool with the V2 version staying plastic. I see a metal version getting warm to the touch as the atty heats up, and I see that ruining the *feel* of the Janty Stick.

 

[gjrhine]

I have had no leaky liquid issues with the JS (or any other PV for that matter) by using a pipette to fill a cart from the bottom up. No messing with tea bags or syringes.

 

[Zofryer]

I have had no leaky liquid issues with the JS (or any other PV for that matter) by using a pipette to fill a cart from the bottom up. No messing with tea bags or syringes.

I don't now, but like I said, I'm doing things slightly different. For one, I'm using a slightly larger than pipette stirring straw. The tip of a glass bottle dripper *just* fits into the tube top. And two, I'm using shredded teabag strips in the way that other people use poly. The reason? I make about 20 of the strips (about 5 inches long, confetti thin), then hold them together, and push them from the middle to the bottom of the cart, then tuck the ends into the cart until it's full, then clip them off. No more problems with filling material getting stuck to the atty, but almost the same wicking action and space savings of the poly.

And, I'm finishing up with a wrist flick to get the extra juice out of the tube before putting the cart back in the atty.

 

[gjrhine]

Sounds like too much bother to me but whatever works I guess. If sticking a pipette into a juice bottle and then into a cart ever stops working for me and I get leaks I'll be looking for alternatives.

 

[olderthandirt]

... I'm using shredded teabag strips in the way that other people use poly. The reason? I make about 20 of the strips (about 5 inches long, confetti thin), then hold them together, and push them from the middle to the bottom of the cart, then tuck the ends into the cart until it's full, then clip them off. No more problems with filling material getting stuck to the atty, but almost the same wicking action and space savings of the poly.
....

I messed around w/ tea-bags for a bit, but they just didn't last as long as poly beore needing replacement. The strip routine is intresting though. I''ll try it out for grins. how long before you replace your filling Z?

 

[Zofryer]

Sounds like too much bother to me but whatever works I guess. If sticking a pipette into a juice bottle and then into a cart ever stops working for me and I get leaks I'll be looking for alternatives.

I think I confused people. In my head pippette meant those double stirring straws, not the glass thingers for refilling carts. I meant that instead of using the tiny double stirring straws for the cart "straw mod", I'm using the slightly bigger stirring straws in my carts that are just big enough to accept the end of a glass bottle dropper tip.

Also, the reason I shredded teabag material into strips is because I was having to change the material out sometimes in the same day because it would stop wicking properly. With my shredded strip method, I've had the same material in my carts for a few days now and it's working great. I'll do a post on it after a few days if it continues to not suck.

 

[gjrhine]

What I use is neither double stirring straws or glass but these.

 

[Zofryer]

What I use is neither double stirring straws or glass but these.

OH! So basically, you aren't making a piece of straw an integral part of your cart at all (that's what the straw mod is, adding a small piece of stirring stick to the inside of your cart), you are just sticking those suckers down the side to the bottom and filling from the bottom up then pulling them out.

 

[gjrhine]

Exactly. Could not be easier and no leaky liquid issues in the JS so far.

 

[PuffinStuff]

Great review of the JS Z. I too, am soooo pleased with my JS, have had a week now and it rocks! No issues at all so far with mine. One of the first things I noticed (besides the massive vapor) was how much better all of my juice tastes. I was using the straw mod with my pen but dont even need the mod with the JS. Nice draw without the straw.

IMO the price is reasonable, considering all of the money I have spent on previous models (mini and pen both generic) looking for something to satisfy my craving for analogs. I have been analog free since April 8 but it was a struggle with my previous models. No more struggle here, the JS satisfies my smoking urges completely. Wish I had found it first, but then..... I appreciate it so much more now after trying others!!!!

 

[Aiden]

I've had my JS about a week too, your review is spot on. I've had no issues at all, it has almost identical performance to my KB...but with longer battery life.

 

[PuffinStuff]

Also, think I need to cut my juice a bit. Using 24mg but with the massive hits from the JS it a bit too much.

 

[Aiden]

Also, think I need to cut my juice a bit. Using 24mg but with the massive hits from the JS it a bit too much.

Not an issue here...I'm still using straight 36mg from TW. I smoked Marlboro reds...1.5-2 packs a day.

 

[PuffinStuff]

I smoked marb light 100's at least a pack a day. I tried the 16 and 18 but they didnt quite satisfy. I notice I am vaping much less often using the stick. Seems like my BE112 was in my mouth constantly!! I wasted a lot of juice too. Love the BE112 attys but the batteries only lasted me an hour or so, that is if my dogs didnt do any barking!!! When my dogs barked it activated the battery!

 

[wegster]

Thanks for the response to my comments, zofryer (quality and draw).

I'll be waiting to see what the v2 and cameo brings. Honestly, I've got no problems with shrinking some larger heat shrink around a JS to keep the switch together, *if* need be, but the draw is really what gets me down. For many, this is a 'bonus' of the light draw. I think Ludo did mention something about a change to the draw in v2 somewhere in the Jantyusa forum threads.

PS@thread - don't take the above as a slam on the JS, it isn't. Just for what's important to *me*, I'm waiting to see what v2 brings.

Oh, and about running over your 510s