Opinions on the Vapage VMOD?

[Fernand]

@Greyz, what I did to use an atomizer I like (instead of a cartomizer) was to modify stock Joye 2.4 Ohm atomizers, which offer a bridge and more mesh as a juice reservoir, so I don't have to feed as often, and more consistency. If you mount an atomizer on an old battery, then gradually use a "break a pencil" type pressure with thumbs at the joint, and keep rotating the atomizer, the barrel starts to loosen. Then pull it up about 1/16" and you will see a section of fluting, or "corrugation", appear. juice feeds fine through that. Now if you reassemble the Vmod with this atomizer, it feeds just like the Vapage ones. The Magic Tape wrapping shown on the atomizer (1-2 wraps) is to fatten the atomizer to give a tighter seal to the gasket on the upper part under the cone and thus prevent leaking.



On stock cartomizers so far the best tasting vertical coil ones have resisted being pulled apart like the atomizers, which means that drilling a 1/16" hole has been necessary to make them feed on the Vmod.



The bottom gasket isn't needed if you tighten the cartomizer in its nest, finger tight. Some people report installing undrilled stock cartomizers but keeping them loose, so liquid enters through the air inlets.

 

[Greyz]

@Fernand thanks for all the great tips! I am a fiddler, so I might be trying all of those things out. I am happy to report ATM though, that the 1.5 vapage atomizer has broken in very well and there is a huge improvement to vapor production as well as no dratty hits and more vaping between pumps. There is a learning curve to this thing. I have found that I do different things depending on how full the bottle is etc. The biggest help has come from doing my dry pull while I have the bottle pushed in some. When I hear that gurgle I know it's got juice in there. Im going to order some 1.8 silos carts when those come in and give Em a try. I do love carts. I'm guessing it'll prob be a different learning curve but well c. Thanks again for all of the help guys and keep on vaping. I'll let you all know how it goes.

P.S. for anyone wondering leaking has been absolutely no problem with this thing. I occasionally see some moisture when I open it but it's so minute I wonder if it's a little condensation from holding it in my palm. Also it's on the chassy and no where near the bottle or catch cup which is why I think that.

 

[Fernand]

Greyz, there are some tips about o-rings and eliminating seeping completely on the Vmod "video review" thread that's turned into a 3800 post tips thread.

I like the Vmod itself a lot. I've adapted Boge cartos more recently by cutting a slit with a dremel cut-off wheel. If you don't cut the central post there's nothing you can damage. That seems to be easiest and to work best. I think the Boge 2.0 on a Vmod is one of the very best vapes ever. They get kinda soggy after a few days under such heavy juicing, but well worth it, it's a fine particle vapor and the flavor is unbeatable!

 

[Greyz]

@Fernand, I took a dremel to a Boge 2.0. Great tip! worked easy and now I can use my cartos laying around on the Vmod! Great vape too! Thanx for the tip!

 

[Fernand]

Great vape too

Ain't it, though?

 

[Emris]

I like the look of the VMOD. It looks great and a part of me still wants one. But the atty issue is a deal breaker for me. Its a shame you cant pop in a standard atty or carto and vape. You guys sure there isn't a apple logo anywhere on it

 

[Katdarling]

That is hysterical!

Just in from the VMOD thread (the large one): "Over the months I've been reading about how users would get desperate when they were out of BF's or Silos and how they would put their Vmod in the drawer until they got more supplies or they decided to plug in the Dremel and mod out some cartos to use.

I've been using standard 2.0 Ohm Boge attys with a drip tip on mine and they feed just fine.
I also use Boge 2.0 cartos and dual coils on the Vmod and it has no trouble feeding the carto.
All's that I do is make sure that I haven't screwed the carto down too tight. I also use the little washer seal on the Boges or dual coils"

 

[Fernand]

Worth a try, although this pushes juice through the air channel, and in my case it was seeping down and messier than the sealed-chamber way. I'm not sure if it depends more on the carto type, thickness of juice or what. On the other hand, blotting up a few drops of juice is not a deal-breaker ;-) and where it works, it works.

 

[Jdsgibson]

I don't think the analytical (the first 4 letters are key) part of my brain would allow me to walk around with a cartomizer flopping around.

 

[AlmightyGod]

I'm thinking it's just not tightened down. The GG UFS uses the holes in the side of the carto/atty for feeding too.

 

[Emris]

It would be nice if there was a 510-510 adapter that sealed in the mod for use standard 510/306 attys or cartos. I am half tempted to get one just to see how hard it would be to mod it to work with standard attys.

 

[snoopyjkbx]

don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but initially i was not a fan due to the weak vapor and TH with the 14500 batteries (i was using a 1.5 atty with AW IMRs). however, once i popped in two of the 14250 for some HV vaping (running on a 2.8 atty), it was like WOW!! tons of vapor, good solid TH and a GREAT vaping experience!

only downside is due to the small batteries, they don't really last that long before needing a charge. Being a moderate vaper, these batteries lasted me at most a few hours. if it wasn't for the battery life issue, this would have probably been one of my goto mods, especially due to the small size, when i'm out and about...

Ultra IFR 14250 LFP 3.2v Rechargeable Batteries-Pair: Your source for the best electronic cigarettes / personal vaporizers in the world.

 

[AlmightyGod]

The IMR batteries aren't my favorite in the 14500 category. I seem to get better performance from the Vapage branded protected batts.

I need to buy some of those 14250 batts. Vmodding at 6v sounds like fun to me.

 

[snoopyjkbx]

you won't regret my friend...

vapingmonkey agrees with me... check out his review for a preview of what HV on a Vmod can do!

The IMR batteries aren't my favorite in the 14500 category. I seem to get better performance from the Vapage branded protected batts.

I need to buy some of those 14250 batts. Vmodding at 6v sounds like fun to me.

 

[deez2020]

Instead of squeezing the bottle I find myself tipping it topside down into my mouth while dry sucking the tip a few times in order to feed it. My first bottle broke at the threads from squeezing it too much. It leaks sometimes and uses a lot of juice so I don't use it as my "go to". However it produces clouds on 2.0 ohm or better but lacks in flavor. I use the juices I don't like as much in the vmod.

 

[Fernand]

Instead of squeezing the bottle I find myself tipping it topside down into my mouth while dry sucking the tip a few times in order to feed it. My first bottle broke at the threads from squeezing it too much. It leaks sometimes and uses a lot of juice so I don't use it as my "go to". However it produces clouds on 2.0 ohm or better but lacks in flavor. I use the juices I don't like as much in the vmod.

I've get much better flavor using standard 2 ohm atomizers or cartos. If I only squeeze the bottle low down, it lasts a lot longer. Leaking, once I took care of the main causes, turned to slight seeping, and that comes and goes. Just a few drops to mop up when I open the cover.

 

[deez2020]

I've get much better flavor using standard 2 ohm atomizers or cartos. If I only squeeze the bottle low down, it lasts a lot longer. Leaking, once I took care of the main causes, turned to slight seeping, and that comes and goes. Just a few drops to mop up when I open the cover.

Thanks I will try one of my standard 510 attys on it and see how it works.

 

[Fernand]

If you want it to feed juice from the bottom, like the Vapage attys, pull the barrel on the atty up about 1/16", so juice can feed through the corrugated fluting on the connector. To loosen the barrel, mount on an old eGo battery, and repeatedly use "breaking a pencil" pressure and rotate until the barrel starts to get loose, then walk it up about 1/16. If carto is bare metal, wrap 2 turns scotch magic tape to make gasket fit better, install tall gasket, and screw in nice and finger-tight. PG juice feeds fine. If you use very thick juice (I use 100% VG), pull barrel higher up and grind or file some flat areas, then push barrel back down to about 1/8 - 1/16" as on photo. Note the one flattened area on photo. This gives you a deeper channel for very thick juice. G'luck.

 

[deez2020]

If you want it to feed juice from the bottom, like the Vapage attys, pull the barrel on the atty up about 1/16", so juice can feed through the corrugated fluting on the connector. To loosen the barrel, mount on an old eGo battery, and repeatedly use "breaking a pencil" pressure and rotate until the barrel starts to get loose, then walk it up about 1/16. If carto is bare metal, wrap 2 turns scotch magic tape to make gasket fit better, install tall gasket, and screw in nice and finger-tight. PG juice feeds fine. If you use very thick juice (I use 100% VG), pull barrel higher up and grind or file some flat areas, then push barrel back down to about 1/8 - 1/16" as on photo. Note the one flattened area on photo. This gives you a deeper channel for very thick juice. G'luck.

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Thanks again Fernand for the instructional. I will definitely give this a go.

 

[Fernand]

It would be nice if there was a 510-510 adapter that sealed in the mod for use standard 510/306 attys or cartos. I am half tempted to get one just to see how hard it would be to mod it to work with standard attys.

FWIW, I use the Vmod every day, and I've tried a number of hacks to use the regular 510 gear I like best. The way the Vapage factory atties and cartos work is through slits in the connector at the base of the barrel. One benefit is that juice enters only from the side. It makes a difference, compared to feeding through the central airshaft like on older bottom feeders, especially with cartos, e.g. the coil is not getting flooded.

A hollow 510-510 extender could easily be slit with a Dremel low down, but then juice would fill the adapter and (ultimately) enter through the central airshaft. It would work, but loosening a carto works too. For best flavor and performance I haven't yet found a better way than making a small horizontal slit in the base with a Dremel cut-off wheel on vertical coil cartos, and walking the barrel up a bit on atties. It's not for everyone, but pretty simple and IMHO worth it. My other dailies are Echo-Es on eGo batteries, but I find a fresh slit Boge 2 on the Vmod pretty amazing, and in such an elegant, pocketable setup. If you want to avoid surgery, rather than bother with the extender, maybe try the loosening method first. If you like it, a star washer can allow gaps without wobbliness.