OVALE eVic !!! is this the future of vaping???

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I received mine today. I'm not too wrapped up in technical issues at this point. I've mainly been using the variable voltage... basically just threw a few tanks on and started to vape.

-- Like the screen
-- Like the fire button
-- Like the idea of the ring for up/down adjustments but mine seems a little loose.
-- Like the built-in USB charging and the ability to see the charge status on the screen, although I give the plastic USB door about a week before its broken/gone.

The battery tube is metal and the finish is okay but the threads are a little crunchy.

I got the PC software installed no problem. It looks pretty easy to push firmware updates when they are released. The statistics/graphs are amusing but not really helpful to me.

I had one issue where the time stopped at 00:00 after crossing midnight. I went to set the time again and the unit locked up at the time setting (blue-screened?!). I could not get back to the menu or turn it off. I had to remove/install the battery to get it to reset.

When I install a new atty I turn it off/on and it detects the resistance and sets the voltage. Not dynamic wattage but also not the pain that I feared after reading a few earlier posts.

I made a little screen protector by cutting one out of a cellphone screen protector I had laying around. I can see the plastic screen getting scratched easily in your pocket or whatever.

I kept getting an 'Atomizer Shorted' message with the Steam Machine. With no atomizer it says "No Atomizer Find" when you try and fire. The only way I found to check the resistance was to power off/on and watch the resistance check when it initializes.

So far I've tried it with my Steam Machine, Z-Atty-U, Genesis-LV, and ViVi. I only had problems with the Steam Machine.

Overall okay. Still getting used to things.
 
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try using a low res atty. 1.5- 1.7ohm. 14.6-16w approx

According to his tests a 1.4 atty wouldn't go any higher than 3.92 volts - slightly below 11 watts, which is the highest it will go.

And that was set at 5 volts.

It can't do 14.6 - 16watts, the regulator obviously isn't capable, it's not something that will change with Firmware updates either.

The other thing worth noting is the Quiescent current, this is the amount of power the unit uses whilst it's not being used. The Evic uses 11.53ma - this is a lot of power, I suspect it's powering the internal clock and calendar.

In comparison the Zmax uses .11ma whilst idle.

In my opinion the only revolutionary aspect of this mod is the upgradeable firmware.
 
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According to his tests a 1.4 atty wouldn't go any higher than 3.92 volts - slightly below 11 watts, which is the highest it will go.

And that was set at 5 volts.

It can't do 14.6 - 16watts, the regulator obviously isn't capable, it's not something that will change with Firmware updates either.

The limit can either be directly hardware related or firmware related. It's possible the hardware can handle the advertised 3 Amps and 5 Volts and it's being limited by the current firmware release. Only time will tell.
Anyway, 10-11 Watts is above the vast majority of vaper preferences (I've seen the number 85% thrown around), as well as above a lot of atty capabilities unless you want a burnt taste.
I rarely go above 7-8 Watts on any device, for example.

The other thing worth noting is the Quiescent current, this is the amount of power the unit uses whilst it's not being used. The Evic uses 11.53ma - this is a lot of power, I suspect it's powering the internal clock and calendar.

In comparison the Zmax uses .11ma whilst idle.

You didn't read it all then: Sleep discharge of the eVic is also 0.11mA.
It's the Power-Off current that's 11mA, which is obviously some kind of bug.

In my opinion the only revolutionary aspect of this mod is the upgradeable firmware.

Indeed.
 

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There is a big discussion around about how watts aren't exactly the best measurement for the ecig world.

I'll have one hell of a time trying to explain it, but here it is:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-not-matter-its-all-about-wire-temp-read.html

I questioned why higher wattages would be desired but that seemed to answer it pretty quickly for me.

With the temperature indicator already on it and some hacking skills that might be a good mod for this.
 

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There is a big discussion around about how watts aren't exactly the best measurement for the ecig world.

I'll have one hell of a time trying to explain it, but here it is:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-not-matter-its-all-about-wire-temp-read.html

I questioned why higher wattages would be desired but that seemed to answer it pretty quickly for me.

That analysis is "a bit" off.
Watts measure energy per second. Period. Either you think of electrical energy or heat - It's the same (energy doesn't disappear into another dimension).
The actual energy in 8 Watts during 5 seconds is 8x5 = 40 Joules = 9.6 calories = 0.038 BTU = the energy needed to make the temperature of 9.6 grams of water rise 1 degree Celcius.
That's the same energy no matter what device is used.
 

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No disagreement there. But furthering the understanding of our devices can't ever hurt either.

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That analysis is "a bit" off.
Watts measure energy per second. Period. Either you think of electrical energy or heat - It's the same (energy doesn't disappear into another dimension).
The actual energy in 8 Watts during 5 seconds is 8x5 = 40 Joules = 9.6 calories = 0.038 BTU = the energy needed to make the temperature of 9.6 grams of water rise 1 degree Celcius.
That's the same energy no matter what device is used.

I think its more about surface area.

It would be quicker to heat say the 9.6g of H20 you mention with a higher resistance, longer coil, given the extra surface area than a lower resistance short coil, at the same wattage?

Watts is an applicable measurement, but I think using it by itself leaves factors out that could be valuable. Surface area and heat up time are two that immediately come to mind. And then there is the implications it has on battery life/draw.
 
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