OVALE eVic !!! is this the future of vaping???

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I put some plus and minus remarks on a Dutch forum with a description on my findings. I will translate it tomorrow and place it here.

In short: i like it. But vape wise i think the Vamo is better, as it's easier set on Voltage and Wattage then the eVic. Also, the eVic is not a true VW device. You set the Watts, it calculates the corresponding Voltage based on your vaping device and sets this as the new Voltage. In the main screen you still adjust the Voltage, not the Wattage. That is a big bummer that will hopefully be corrected with a new firmware version for the eVic.

I wondered about that when looking through the website info. It showed how to change voltage, but the display didn't show it.
 

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That analysis is "a bit" off.
Watts measure energy per second. Period. Either you think of electrical energy or heat - It's the same (energy doesn't disappear into another dimension).
The actual energy in 8 Watts during 5 seconds is 8x5 = 40 Joules = 9.6 calories = 0.038 BTU = the energy needed to make the temperature of 9.6 grams of water rise 1 degree Celcius.
That's the same energy no matter what device is used.

Smartypants.
 

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No disagreement there. But furthering the understanding of our devices can't ever hurt either.

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I think its more about surface area.

It would be quicker to heat say the 9.6g of H20 you mention with a higher resistance, longer coil, given the extra surface area than a lower resistance short coil, at the same wattage?

Watts is an applicable measurement, but I think using it by itself leaves factors out that could be valuable. Surface area and heat up time are two that immediately come to mind. And then there is the implications it has on battery life/draw.

I agree with that. Coil/wick characteristics will influence how energy is transferred to the e-liquid (more or less e-liquid being heated simultaneously or coil surface heating more or less due to difference in length and ability to transfer all energy more or less efficiently to the e-liquid.
For example, a coil that heats too much without being fed sufficient e-liquid will actually "lose" energy by heating the air and atomizer body. That makes it a lower efficiency device, as far a vaping is concerned.
Higher efficiency devices will transfer as much energy as possible to the e-liquid, as long as that energy is sufficient to vaporize it. Vaporization occurs at a fixed temperature.

As far as the inhaled vapor temperature is concerned, the airflow characteristics of the device, particularly the vapor path between the coil and the actual mouthtip exit point have an even greater influence in my experience. That's because the vapor loses temperature very rapidly, so even small differences in the air chambers will give big differences in the final results.
 
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After using it for an evening, I wouldn't call it a VW device. You can set the Battery Ouput to a Wattage, it then sets the device to a certain Volt level. But, if you change atomizers, it doesn't detect it and adjust the Voltage. You have to go back to the menu and do it again or power it off and on.

So is it easier then to just shut it off, change the atty, power it back on, it will recognize the atty, then it sets the voltage?
Seems that would be easier then all the different steps in the menu to go through, while its powered up and then changing attys.
 

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So is it easier then to just shut it off, change the atty, power it back on, it will recognize the atty, then it sets the voltage?
Seems that would be easier then all the different steps in the menu to go through, while its powered up and then changing attys.

yes it is!
 

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So is it easier then to just shut it off, change the atty, power it back on, it will recognize the atty, then it sets the voltage?
Seems that would be easier then all the different steps in the menu to go through, while its powered up and then changing attys.

That's what I do. Faster and not really a big deal

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We are all doing this already tho, right? Hahaha! :glare: Since a lot of battery instruction manuals says to turn off the battery before changing atty's or adding eJuice, etc...

So is it easier then to just shut it off, change the atty, power it back on, it will recognize the atty, then it sets the voltage?
Seems that would be easier then all the different steps in the menu to go through, while its powered up and then changing attys.

<sarcasm> So, it works correctly when/if we follow instructions. Imagine that! </sarcasm>
 
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Got mine today... Seems to work great and has a bunch of cool features. Not sure I understand the significance of changing watts. If I have a tank that vapes best at 3.6 volts, what will adjusting the wattage do besides readjusting volts to some higher, undesirable setting, resulting in non-optimal voltage for my tank. If I adjust watts to it's highest setting on the evic, and then readjust my volts to my preferred 3.6, how will this effect the quality of the vape? The evic seems to me to produce the same amount of vaper whether I have it set at 5.6 watts or 15 watts, with the same voltage (3.6) Doesn't Watts = 2v/ohms?

Pretty new at this so any info would be appreciated.
 

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I fail to see the fascination with watts myself, you change the volts to get the vape you want. Some people love it, but I can't see every atty and every juice can taste it's best at one setting, but that's my opinion.

Watts are figured as amps times volts. Here's a link that might help some Ohm's Law Calculations With Power
 

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Got mine today... Seems to work great and has a bunch of cool features. Not sure I understand the significance of changing watts. If I have a tank that vapes best at 3.6 volts, what will adjusting the wattage do besides readjusting volts to some higher, undesirable setting, resulting in non-optimal voltage for my tank. If I adjust watts to it's highest setting on the evic, and then readjust my volts to my preferred 3.6, how will this effect the quality of the vape? The evic seems to me to produce the same amount of vaper whether I have it set at 5.6 watts or 15 watts, with the same voltage (3.6) Doesn't Watts = 2v/ohms?

Pretty new at this so any info would be appreciated.

I believe watts is calculated as (voltage * voltage) / resistance. If you set your watts and then change the voltage, the calculated watts would change.

For example, let's say you have a 2.2ohm atomizer.

A. if you set watts to 5.6, voltage would be 3.509985754956849v or roughly 3.5v, the square root of 12.32 (5.6 watts * 2.2ohm).

B. Then if you set voltage to 3.6v, watts would be calculated as (3.6v * 3.6v) / 2.2ohm = 5.890909090909091 or roughly 5.9 watts.

The differences between the two scenarios are (A) 5.6 watts at 3.5v and (B) 5.9 watts at 3.6v. Both still somewhat close at 2.2ohm.
 

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Got mine today... Seems to work great and has a bunch of cool features. Not sure I understand the significance of changing watts. If I have a tank that vapes best at 3.6 volts, what will adjusting the wattage do besides readjusting volts to some higher, undesirable setting, resulting in non-optimal voltage for my tank. If I adjust watts to it's highest setting on the evic, and then readjust my volts to my preferred 3.6, how will this effect the quality of the vape? The evic seems to me to produce the same amount of vaper whether I have it set at 5.6 watts or 15 watts, with the same voltage (3.6) Doesn't Watts = 2v/ohms?

Pretty new at this so any info would be appreciated.

Hi Tim man,
From reading the reviews so far it seems the evic is not a true variable wattage device.
The idea of variable wattage is you just adjust the watts - and lets say I have an atomizer at 2.0 ohms - I am vaping a juice at 7 watts. I switch to a tank with the same juice but its a 3.2 ohm tank. With variable wattage I don't have to adjust anything - I can continue vaping it at 7 watts and the device adjusts the voltage to suit the ohms.
The evic doesn't do this - not at the moment anyway. So you have to go in and confirm the watt setting again, from what I've been reading on it. True variable wattage doesn't require having to reset the watts every time you change a resistance.

Variable wattage is also about adjusting by watts. If I want to change I can adjust the watts up or down - if I want to vape another juice that is lighter or tastes better at 9 watts than 7 watts for example. Instead of varying the volts I just vary the watts. The device adjusts the volts automatically to suit the ohms. So I can go from 7 to 9 watts as an example. Its really a convenient way of adjusting.

So the "variable" part is varying by watts, and the convenience is in being able to use different resistances at a set wattage and having the voltage adjusted automatically for you, or changing the vape by watts and the volts adjust automatically. Its not about vaping every juice at the same watts - that's why you can vary the watts. But you can also vape at the same watts and change toppers with different ohms and it will adjust the voltage for you.

Hope that all makes sense. I was quite interested in the evic because I thought it was a variable wattage pv. It has an adjustable wattage - but its like a semi-automatic version of something that should be automatic right now. I am hoping they can change that.
 
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Hi Tin man,
From reading the reviews so far it seems the evic is not a true variable wattage device.
The idea of variable wattage is you just adjust the watts - and lets say I have an atomizer at 2.0 ohms - I am vaping a juice at 7 watts. I switch to a tank with the same juice but its a 3.2 ohm tank. With variable wattage I don't have to adjust anything - I can continue vaping it at 7 watts and the device adjusts the voltage to suit the ohms.
The evic doesn't do this - not at the moment anyway. So you have to go in and confirm the watt setting again, from what I've been reading on it. True variable wattage doesn't require having to reset the watts every time you change a resistance.

Variable watatge is also about adjusting by watts. If I want to change I can adjust the watts up or down - if I want to vape another juice that is lighter or tastes better at 9 watts than 7 watts for example. Instead of varying the volts I just vary the watts. The device adjusts the volts automatically to suit the ohms. So I can go from 7 to 9 watts as an example. Its really a convenient way of adjusting.

So the "variable" part is varying by watts, and the convenience is in being able to use different resistances at a set wattage and having the voltage adjusted automatically for you, or changing the vape by watts and the volts adjust automatically. Its not about vaping every juice at the same watts - that's why you can vary the watts. But you can also vape at the same watts and change toppers with different ohms and it will adjust the voltage for you.

Hope that all makes sense. I was quite interested in the evic because I thought it was a variable wattage pv. It has an adjustable wattage - but its like a semi-automatic version of something that should be automatic right now. I am hoping they can change that.

Thanks, that explains a lot. It would be nice to just set watts and have it readjust volts depending on the atomizer so it's at the same preferred wattage
 
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We are all doing this already tho, right? Hahaha! :glare: Since a lot of battery instruction manuals says to turn off the battery before changing atty's or adding eJuice, etc...



<sarcasm> So, it works correctly when/if we follow instructions. Imagine that! </sarcasm>

I just read the thread and asked if thats how it was being described regarding VW. I have one coming, and I plan to read the manual! Imagine that.
 

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I keep hearing about the standby mode and how you have to click 5 times to get to vaping again and reset your voltage. Does anyone know if it times out to standby mode? At home i always have a mod in my hand and vape every 5 minutes. I couldnt live with a mod i had to click 5 times and reset the voltage 100 times a day because it constantly goes to standby. If anyone knows please post. Thanks.
 

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FieldofVapor was on vapelink last night with the evic, said the sleep mode was adjustable in 5 or 15 mins increments I think.

VAPELINK Ep 14: The Prestige Auto Carto Pipe and the eVic (Or driving eViction) - YouTube

you can fast forward to 35:45 for the evic

I keep hearing about the standby mode and how you have to click 5 times to get to vaping again and reset your voltage. Does anyone know if it times out to standby mode? At home i always have a mod in my hand and vape every 5 minutes. I couldnt live with a mod i had to click 5 times and reset the voltage 100 times a day because it constantly goes to standby. If anyone knows please post. Thanks.
 

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Good to know, thanks. In that case, my other concern was how much power the unit uses sitting idle. I read 11 mA somewhere which is a fair amount of constant draw for a small battery. I wonder how much the battery drains just from being "on" because i would probably have it active all evening. Also nto sure how it would handle dual coils.
 
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