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Oberon75

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Your snobbish bias is making you increasingly hard to take seriously.

What, exactly, has your precious yihi and wismec done for advocacy? To imply that the gear people choose reflects what they're willing to do for the community is laughable.
I'm in a thread created to .... on other peoples mods but I'm the one who is biased? Its alright though just so long as you support the cheap stuff. How could a $160 to $200 mod ever be better. How could a $50 mod only cost $50 because that is all its worth? I am not the one firing the shots here. Only responding. Unless of course you can find a thread I created saying "Dont Buy Cheap Mods" They are a Ripoff" You people are getting as hard to talk to as the Campaign for tobacco Free Kids.

No. Wismec hasn't done crap for advocacy. They are owned by joyetech. But Evolv certainly has who makes the board in their device. And nope. YiHi hasn't either but these aren't the only companies I give my money to. And im certainly not going to say an SX350 mod isn't worth $200 even if it is Chinese. Their SX330 and SX130 are a different story though.

And unlike a lot of you trashing higher end mods through fanboyism, I actually own some of the cheap stuff im calling inferior.

Ramen noodles aren't nearly as good as my wifes home made soups. I must be a food snob now too.

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There alot of Companies out there that make solid devices for good prices and there's some Companies that make so so devices for extreme over price..especially for the quality of the device.. Have you ever run across this..

Not that simple. Some of the gear made in Europe and the US are taxed into oblivion. Add the cost of living and you have super high prices.

I have three friends that are machinists who use mills every day. One of them earns $100 an hour. By the time the Federal, state and local taxation gets done with him about 60% of his money is gone. In parts of Europe the tax rate is over 80%.

There is a world of difference between a machinists milling go tolerances that is 1/4th the thickness of s soda can wall, and machinists in China set a piece of Stainless steel in the mill press the start button. The pattern directs the mill to create the part. He or she walks to another mill removes s piece and installs another piece of Stainless steel.

One person can literally have 12 of more mills going St the same time.
 

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I'm in a thread created to .... on other peoples mods but I'm the one who is biased? Its alright though just so long as you support the cheap stuff. How could a $160 to $200 mod ever be better. How could a $50 mod only cost $50 because that is all its worth? I am not the one firing the shots here. Only responding. Unless of course you can find a thread I created saying "Dont Buy Cheap Mods" They are a Ripoff" You people are getting as hard to talk to as the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids.

No. Wismec hasn't done crap for advocacy. They are owned by Joyetech. But Evolv certainly has who makes the board in their device. And nope. YiHi hasn't either but these aren't the only companies I give my money to. And im certainly not going to say an SX350 mod isn't worth $200 even if it is Chinese. Their SX330 and SX130 are a different story though.

And unlike a lot of you trashing higher end mods through fanboyism, I actually own some of the cheap stuff im calling inferior.

Ramen noodles aren't nearly as good as my wifes home made soups. I must be a food snob now too.

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I hate to say it, but everytime I'm reading a thread and I see you join the conversation you're either down talking some device or praising another as a superior.
It's hard not to read your posts as snobbish. That's my 2 cents...
 

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I own a pretty good variety of mods, but not much that could be classified as boutiquey, including my two custom mods: Renegade X and PC Mods Creations stab wood squonker.

I have 5 sx minis. I also have 10 isticks :). And a slew of mods in between. The only one I'm not fond of is that 20W istick. But, those serve a purpose, too. I have dropped them in parking lots and ran one over with a tractor. To my pleasant surprise, they continued working. But, if they hadn't, I wouldn't have been as upset as I would've been had it been one of my sx minis, or Renegade or that squonker.

They all serve the purpose they are intended to serve: they vaporize e liquid.
 

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I hate to say it, but everytime I'm reading a thread and I see you join the conversation you're either down talking some device or praising another as a superior.
It's hard not to read your posts as snobbish. That's my 2 cents...
You mean like when I downed the chinese quality control of the Wismec DNA 200 that I own and showed people how to fix it and prevent owning a potential brick?

Or was it the time I posted about my friend almost burning up his whole family when he plugged in his 50w iStick to charge?

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You mean like when I downed the chinese quality control of the Wismec DNA 200 that I own and showed people how to fix it and prevent owning a potential brick?

Or was it the time I posted about my friend almost burning up his whole family when he plugged in his 50w iStick to charge?

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I'm not getting into it with you over this, I could care less.
I was simply trying to show you a different perspective of the way you come across, if I'm lying or making this up then I guess I must have a vendetta against you.
Take it however you like, I was simply trying to give you some advice purely from a neutral stance.
 
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I'm not getting into it with you over this, I could care less.
I was simply trying to show you a different perspective of the way you come across, if I'm lying or making this up then I guess I must have a vendetta against you.
Take it however you like, I was simply trying to give you some advice purely from a neutral stance.
There shouldn't be any perspective about it. The Chinese market is devaluing high quality mods and creating threads like this one.

But shame on me for defending higher quality mods and posting charts explaining the differences right before everyone brought out the flame throwers.

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This whole thread is a bit rediculous. As one who happens to be fortinate enough to have more equipment than one man can possibly need from just about all price ranges, who gives a flying fart of a rolling donut what anyone vapes? The point is harm reduction and keeping folks off of the burners. It's as simple as that. The winners in all of this are us, the end users. There's room in the pool for everyone no matter what the unit happens to be or what the style and it's up to the individual as to what works for them. The last time I checked, we where all in this together. This type of crap is simply counterproductive. Enough said...
 
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For $10 more your joyetech isnt nearly bas accurate, doesnt buck/boost nor do i think its DC-DC in wattage mode and temp mode.

It absolutely has dc-dc buck/boost in VW and TC mode. All variable wattage devices vary wattage by adjusting DC volts to DC volts, either up conversion (boost), or down conversion (buck). All TC devices are VW devices that do this on the fly according to a preprogrammed temp/resistance graph.

There is cheap crap and expensive crap. All crap is overpriced, and the definition of crap varies from person to person as much as budget does.
Do your research and you won't get stuck with crap.
 

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As soon as it was suggested that buying higher cost mods was a boost for advocacy this thread went from snobbish rubbish to ridiculous stupidity and the time has come for it to die. Chinese company's will not involve themselves in advocacy in the US or the EU because of the massive subsidies they receive from the Chinese government as such actions would constitute interference in internal matters of foreign states. Yes kanger, sigelei and yihi are not getting involved because they are cash grabbing lmfao the coming regs will hit them very hard as we're the markets with the disposable income to buy their products they don't want these regulations anymore then we do they just can't do sod all about it but watch and hope.
 

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I'm in a thread created to .... on other peoples mods but I'm the one who is biased? Its alright though just so long as you support the cheap stuff. How could a $160 to $200 mod ever be better. How could a $50 mod only cost $50 because that is all its worth? I am not the one firing the shots here. Only responding. Unless of course you can find a thread I created saying "Dont Buy Cheap Mods" They are a Ripoff" You people are getting as hard to talk to as the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids.

No. Wismec hasn't done crap for advocacy. They are owned by Joyetech. But Evolv certainly has who makes the board in their device. And nope. YiHi hasn't either but these aren't the only companies I give my money to. And im certainly not going to say an SX350 mod isn't worth $200 even if it is Chinese. Their SX330 and SX130 are a different story though.

And unlike a lot of you trashing higher end mods through fanboyism, I actually own some of the cheap stuff im calling inferior.

Ramen noodles aren't nearly as good as my wifes home made soups. I must be a food snob now too.

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If you actually took the time to read the OP, you'd notice that you're in a thread complaining about a mod costing $50 in one place, and $75 in another place. It was a rant about store owners...not cheap mods vs. high end mods. That didn't happen until you got here.
 

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You paid 600 dollars for a MOD?
That's a topic for a whole new discussion
So have I.

And I challenge anyone to find better in its class... At any price.

And all it is is a hunk of metal that holds a battery, bottle, atty and button. Fully mechanical.

Such a well thought out block of metal that people are tripping over themselves to wait 6 months in line to get it.

And some of our most talented modders on the forum are singing high praise.

Excellence of every single detail makes my unicorn worth every single penny and more.

And I've still spent several thousand dollars less on vaping than if I'd continued smoking.

Including completely supporting the vaping habits of my own and 5 other vapers on my own cigarette money.

I've earned my unicorn I cherish so much. I deserve it.

And I'm paying my bills, my mother's bills recently, donating to those less fortunate from time to time and nearing the $6,000 mark on Christmas for my 3 young children.

Is a discussion necessary? :blink:

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On the other hand....I have a whole bunch of boutique mods that were stupid expensive and, to me, worth every penny. High end, hand made bottom feeders that are indestructible. In the event anything were to happen to any of them, I'd simply send em back and the modder would fix it. No timeline.... Just a phone call. They will last for life and if I ever wanted to sell any of them, they'd go quick. They're not assembly line mods. Same with my attys. They're all authentic and converted to bottom feeders by Catfish from here on ECF. Again, any problems, he'll take care of it. Sometimes you DO get what you pay for.
I ordered a ProVari Radius today. I've owned many ProVari devices over the years. Never had an issue and I'm sure this won't be the exception. 40 watts is plenty to run a squape RS.
Quality shouldn't be defined by how many watts something goes to. Most of my stuff is mechanical. I define quality by how well it works for you. Knocking other people's gear is ridiculous. Like Marlboro smokers making fun of the dude with Pall Malls.
PLEASE tell me you didn't smoke Pall Malls. :blink:

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