Howdy folks,
Its the new year, yup 2015 and looking back I've seen how far vaping has come. As a community and devices things have progressed on the fast track, the FDA has seemingly let up slightly (or trying other tactics) and tobacco companies are now looking backwards maybe wondering if they took the wrong step in siding with the FDA.
Ok, so here is my bone to pick, it may even get me banned I don't know.
When did vaping become a contest in popularity, how in the holy catfish did celebrities get born by just providing advice. If this is the case I should be a rock-star rebuilding shy near every device on the market and thus far I think I'm well past 400+ setup builds/devices/mods...ect (Little known fact, I taught Nitro how to build his first coil).
I don't know the drama behind the forum wars, nor do I really care, I do understand the policy and limitations behind ECF and rules abound (Trolls you see, they are everywhere) and yes, ECF does a good job of keeping the streets clean per say. But really, petty little elitist run around toting their metaphorical titles of wonderment or fame in a world that needs not have it. Wielding power above others like that will dive the community and this is one thing that can not happen at all, already vaping is a huge target of interest for the FDA and Government at the moment and entrust when I say they are looking for those fracture points. In my book running a blog posting this and that is not assisting the community unless it has a division and clear purpose in mind (not to collect kick backs and claim its for covering costs).
Granted I understand the need to save money, personally I'm broke enough that I'm pinching pennies to make change these days myself (even then I fall short way too much) however in that concept excess could be redirected to assist with costs fighting for our right to vape (Lobbyists aren't free if anyone didn't know, neither are lawyers). Were all in it together and I must say this isn't a beauty pageant though it seems this is what its turning in to as of lately, I'm rather kind of disheartened seeing what is going on.
I've set up vape meets out of pocket to raise awareness for local vapers to stop by and find community, I've attempted to more then once teach others how to progress to the "Next Level" if they so choose or fix what they've got if it saves a few cents. All materials come out of my wallet funds even though I don't have it, but recent events are seriously making me reconsider my stand on how to progress in the future. Maybe I should pick a corner and sit in it for a while, I'm not fully sure yet however recent reading of material that I pulled up on other sourced locations kind of makes me wonder. Those that have had the pleasure to know me either at a convention or in real life my stance on things changes nothing on a friendship well made, those that I haven't meet yet, well kindly met and it is my pleasure to hopefully see you at a convention.
I recently spoke with someone who had not visited ECF for a while, the reason for staying out of "All forums" as was put was drama. I didn't fully grasp that statement until tonight and I must agree that I see where he is coming from. If things are not fixed then I fear it will no longer be a community but rather a collection of groups all butting heads over a title that in the world outside of vaping means nothing more then words on paper. Community is our strength, lets hope that for the future of vaping we can all see that clearly and band together as a unified group for a purpose and not niche groups under a name.
Just my thoughts, feel free to pull it apart if you like
Its the new year, yup 2015 and looking back I've seen how far vaping has come. As a community and devices things have progressed on the fast track, the FDA has seemingly let up slightly (or trying other tactics) and tobacco companies are now looking backwards maybe wondering if they took the wrong step in siding with the FDA.
Ok, so here is my bone to pick, it may even get me banned I don't know.
When did vaping become a contest in popularity, how in the holy catfish did celebrities get born by just providing advice. If this is the case I should be a rock-star rebuilding shy near every device on the market and thus far I think I'm well past 400+ setup builds/devices/mods...ect (Little known fact, I taught Nitro how to build his first coil).
I don't know the drama behind the forum wars, nor do I really care, I do understand the policy and limitations behind ECF and rules abound (Trolls you see, they are everywhere) and yes, ECF does a good job of keeping the streets clean per say. But really, petty little elitist run around toting their metaphorical titles of wonderment or fame in a world that needs not have it. Wielding power above others like that will dive the community and this is one thing that can not happen at all, already vaping is a huge target of interest for the FDA and Government at the moment and entrust when I say they are looking for those fracture points. In my book running a blog posting this and that is not assisting the community unless it has a division and clear purpose in mind (not to collect kick backs and claim its for covering costs).
Granted I understand the need to save money, personally I'm broke enough that I'm pinching pennies to make change these days myself (even then I fall short way too much) however in that concept excess could be redirected to assist with costs fighting for our right to vape (Lobbyists aren't free if anyone didn't know, neither are lawyers). Were all in it together and I must say this isn't a beauty pageant though it seems this is what its turning in to as of lately, I'm rather kind of disheartened seeing what is going on.
I've set up vape meets out of pocket to raise awareness for local vapers to stop by and find community, I've attempted to more then once teach others how to progress to the "Next Level" if they so choose or fix what they've got if it saves a few cents. All materials come out of my wallet funds even though I don't have it, but recent events are seriously making me reconsider my stand on how to progress in the future. Maybe I should pick a corner and sit in it for a while, I'm not fully sure yet however recent reading of material that I pulled up on other sourced locations kind of makes me wonder. Those that have had the pleasure to know me either at a convention or in real life my stance on things changes nothing on a friendship well made, those that I haven't meet yet, well kindly met and it is my pleasure to hopefully see you at a convention.
I recently spoke with someone who had not visited ECF for a while, the reason for staying out of "All forums" as was put was drama. I didn't fully grasp that statement until tonight and I must agree that I see where he is coming from. If things are not fixed then I fear it will no longer be a community but rather a collection of groups all butting heads over a title that in the world outside of vaping means nothing more then words on paper. Community is our strength, lets hope that for the future of vaping we can all see that clearly and band together as a unified group for a purpose and not niche groups under a name.
Just my thoughts, feel free to pull it apart if you like
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