Oye, Bone to pick with it all

[WendyM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAy5nX6VXXo

Not directed at you, Wendy.

I don't think it's funny at all....it seems very violent. What is funny about blowing up animals?

It's a part of exploring a different world.

To be fair, it's a little telling that most people are bothered by the dead piggies more than the blown up people in that video. From my perspective, I don't think violent in video games translates at all to violent in real life. The kid in my 6th grade class that shot and killed a neighbor 5th grader kid had zero access to video games (his mom thought they were inappropriate, while most of our grieving town [Molalla OR] in 1986 would have wished that she'd extended that opinion to .22 rifles.) Although it was 1986, and a logging town, so really the combination of "violence and video games" was pretty much restricted to various ways we showed our displeasure with the Atari E.T. game (it was legitimately a piece of garbage.) That one incident probably informs my opinion that it's better to let someone who is truly violent stay inside and play violent video games than encouraging them to go out and interact with real life where they have the potential to commit real world violence.

The appeal for the kids as far as I can tell isn't the action on the screen, it's Pewdiepie's running commentary (basically saying whatever pops into his head) and reactions to the games. More than that though is the world breaking. Once a game is completed as the designers intended, kids (and my husband) love going back through the game to find easter eggs, glitches, world borders (that's where stuff gets a bit weird) and traps (where the character literally cannot die or end the game, but can't progress or escape because of programming errors.) Where the original storyline gave 80-100 hours of game play finding and documenting all the additional stuff can add another 200 hours to the entertainment plus something interesting for the kids (or my husband) to share with their peers over the next few days.

If I saw my kids engaging in a lot of this, I would take them to a psychiatrist pretty quickly.

If it were a sudden behavior I would probably consider it too (although honestly, you're better off taking a child to a licensed clinical social worker, cheaper and they tend to do more in the way of behavioral tactics for children and their parents than the diagnose and prescribe route.) On the other hand I know my kids; and to them repeatedly blowing up of things, throwing chickens (Zelda), shooting the same targets, capturing hundreds of the same creature (Pokemon) and repeating levels over and over is just to them a way to dissect the game. Its weird to me, but to them so much fun.

 

[drunkenbatman]

It's human nature to be a legend in one's own mind, and toot one's own horn.

Just to be clear about this, you aren't saying I'm not, right?

And to BlkWolfMidnight -- I have a better idea of what you're saying, and I agree with some of the forum-specific stuff and yeah those things can be frustrating, especially because you obviously have a love for the place. There can be some pettiness and even wrong-headed competition towards other forums and such, and some arbitrary rules that are hard to defend. It often happens that people can view things as a pie rather than a tide, and become resentful as to the size of everyone's piece. Hopefully the good generally outweighs the specifics of those incidents though, and usually by a large margin, but if your personal threshold got tripped the other way last night it can be good to remember that a lot of the power people have over us and our moods is power we give them -- and maybe they aren't the people you want to give power over you.

*gives the horns*

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

If you're using a standard metric popcorn kernel, I find that a 7/8 wrap of 24ga Kanthal works well. Wrap it starting from the large end of the kernel, and fire it at 35 watts.

The bits of embedded wire (I call it "Spring Surprise") give an interesting characteristic to the texture of the popcorn; you will find it a memorable dining experience from beginning to end! (Particularly the end, if you get my drift....)

I'm talking about batch making this though, oh, I know, how about a small round plate, with a clear dome over it (or amber). Shouldn't be too difficult to heat the plate. It would fit maybe 10 kernels or such on it and a mini butter melting thing on the top. with 22 gauge it would be easy to wrap a coil low ohm enough to get under the 3 ohm side....yes, I'm thinking this really could work.

Also I have need of a drink stirring attachment, my hot chocolate one died this morning, any ideas on that.

Yes, these are real ideas...they really could work out as we always have our PV's with us charged and ready to rock.

 

[Train2]

I have seen a guy make a little tiny grilled cheese sandwich on his coil...
It's a great video if you can find it.

MrStik,

This would depend on a lot of factors, though I do admit it would be interesting to see if you could pop a popcorn kernel in your mod. Thermal expansion wouldn't be your friend though so safety glasses are a must when the cap pop's off the atty.
I suspect the first thing is to figure out at what temp. is required for the kernel to reach temperature when expansion happens, I suspect it wouldn't be too hard to maintain that if you dropped a vw/vv mod down in wattage and wrapped a high gauge wire or even a twisted 32/36 maybe 9 or 10 times duel coil. have to also have a way to suspend the kernel above the coil so it wouldn't touch them...
You pose an interesting science project, will have to think on it more. but how cool would it be to have a mini popcorn attachment for your mod. Just saying.

 

[Rickajho]

Vape Awards, Schmape Awards.

^^^ That. Can't get worked up about a poopularity contest myself. Two of the big "winners" in most categories I had never even heard of before. If they need the self-esteem that badly let them have it. ECF doesn't appear to have fallen off the map by coming in second place in a contest with it's own motives.

 

[DC2]

Pewdiepie gained his fame in the early times as a gamer who overacted every reaction. He was able to get so much fame so fast based on the flawed way youtube handles advertising a channel. Since he has lived in 3 different countries and visited even more he has uploaded in each country which has helped. Youtube runs off the concept of locational advertising + people who have subscribed from different countries. Since he visited the US semi early it popped up on the us channels and shortly after he hit the UK and Germany uploading which again, put his video's on the front page. (Hint: you can pay youtube to put your video's on the front page) Because of all of this word spread about the goofy guy who plays various games, starting with horror, and more people joined worldwide giving him even more subscribers.

Idiotic as he is, and the concept of playing games for profit, he accidentally found a way to make millions a year just to release two gaming video's a day.

Jesus H. Christ on a stick...
PewDiePie Net Worth | Celebrity Net Worth

Is this what the world has come to?
If so, I'm glad I'll probably be dead in a few decades.

 

[twgbonehead]

I'm talking about batch making this though, oh, I know, how about a small round plate, with a clear dome over it (or amber). Shouldn't be too difficult to heat the plate. It would fit maybe 10 kernels or such on it and a mini butter melting thing on the top. with 22 gauge it would be easy to wrap a coil low ohm enough to get under the 3 ohm side....yes, I'm thinking this really could work.

I think coils like this might be ideal for the purpose:
https://www.fasttech.com/p/1608500

Also I have need of a drink stirring attachment, my hot chocolate one died this morning, any ideas on that.

Yes, these are real ideas...they really could work out as we always have our PV's with us charged and ready to rock.

I found something in a kitchen drawer here that works really well. Not sure what it's called, but it's made of metal, has a flat handle, and a kind of bowl-shaped thing at the other end. You put the bowl end into the hot chocolate, and swirl it around using the handle. I could probably weld a 510 adapter onto the handle so it could connect up to almost any mod.

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

I do believe that it would work, but still would need to source the ceramic plate for the coil to sit in to.. clamshell design would be best to link in the 510 connector I believe and would allow replacement of the internal coil.

Naw, was referring to the electric drink blender thingy for coffee, tea and hot coco. Makes wonderfully silky smooth hot chocolate blended to perfection each time.

 

[twgbonehead]

I do believe that it would work, but still would need to source the ceramic plate for the coil to sit in to.. clamshell design would be best to link in the 510 connector I believe and would allow replacement of the internal coil.

Naw, was referring to the electric drink blender thingy for coffee, tea and hot coco. Makes wonderfully silky smooth hot chocolate blended to perfection each time.

Yes, what might be nice is a motor head attachment with 510 threading, and some kind of standard connector on the other side (like perhaps the hex end of those screwdriver bits). Then, a whisk-like attachment for the cocoa, (or blender-blade, whatever). Could also double as a high-speed screwdriver, drill, dremel, you name it!

And with an extra attachment that had a mini-generator in it, you could turn it into a flashlight!

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

Just to be clear about this, you aren't saying I'm not, right?

And to BlkWolfMidnight -- I have a better idea of what you're saying, and I agree with some of the forum-specific stuff and yeah those things can be frustrating, especially because you obviously have a love for the place. There can be some pettiness and even wrong-headed competition towards other forums and such, and some arbitrary rules that are hard to defend. It often happens that people can view things as a pie rather than a tide, and become resentful as to the size of everyone's piece. Hopefully the good generally outweighs the specifics of those incidents though, and usually by a large margin, but if your personal threshold got tripped the other way last night it can be good to remember that a lot of the power people have over us and our moods is power we give them -- and maybe they aren't the people you want to give power over you.

*gives the horns*

I must thank you for this reply, I may be a bit old in the community and my ways set in stone but the last thing I wish anyone to take away is vaping. I've seen many lives changed in a blink of a moment from this, and so many have tried other things without success until vaping to include me. I guess I often times look back to realize that so many including me started this process to simply get off Cig's, so few knew about a community, group or forum even where people of all walks of life share similar stories of success.

The foundation of what we have is not foolproof, yes if the FDA gets on a roll everything that I know, everyone that has worked so hard to get off cigs with vaping could be stripped away. In truth if they make this a medical drug delivery device requiring prescription then I will not longer be able to use my device in public (or possibly private). Basically we are all in this together and to focus on petty little things rather then the larger issues at hand makes no sense to me, it would be similar to worrying about kicking a pebble while a brick is falling on your head kind of thing.

Thanks again for your reply, it is appreciated.

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

Yes, what might be nice is a motor head attachment with 510 threading, and some kind of standard connector on the other side (like perhaps the hex end of those screwdriver bits). Then, a whisk-like attachment for the cocoa, (or blender-blade, whatever). Could also double as a high-speed screwdriver, drill, dremel, you name it!

And with an extra attachment that had a mini-generator in it, you could turn it into a flashlight!

Though it would have to work under a load for screwdriver, as for a dremel it would need to have high torque and speed which I don't know could be pulled off with the 18650. Also would be wise to ensure that its not a linear phase motor so VV/VW devices could use it as well.
The mini-generator is pretty cool, they have the flashlight already for your PV (seemingly only works on a non regulated mod though).

The idea though is we always have our PV's with us, so why not put them to good use as a utility device with multiple functions, I'm really down for this idea to maybe grow in to something.

 

[twgbonehead]

Though it would have to work under a load for screwdriver, as for a dremel it would need to have high torque and speed which I don't know could be pulled off with the 18650. Also would be wise to ensure that its not a linear phase motor so VV/VW devices could use it as well.
The mini-generator is pretty cool, they have the flashlight already for your PV (seemingly only works on a non regulated mod though).

The idea though is we always have our PV's with us, so why not put them to good use as a utility device with multiple functions, I'm really down for this idea to maybe grow in to something.

Yeah, I was actually totally kidding when I started that - it would really suck as a screwdriver (And the "Add a mini generator and make a flashlight" was totally tongue-in-cheek!) I suspect you weren't entirely serious about the popcorn-maker, either! But to be honest, the "mini-dremel head" is actually starting to seem like a really cool idea to me. Dremel's can do a lot of work without excessively high torque, and I bet any decent 18650 would power it long enough at least to leave a message on your ex-girlfriend's windshield with a diamond-engraving tip.

If the mini-generator was wound correctly, it might provide enough voltage to make for a great stun-gun, too!

(Darn, even I can't tell when I'm kidding around and when I'm being serious!)

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

Yeah, I was actually totally kidding when I started that - it would really suck as a screwdriver (And the "Add a mini generator and make a flashlight" was totally tongue-in-cheek!) I suspect you weren't entirely serious about the popcorn-maker, either! But to be honest, the "mini-dremel head" is actually starting to seem like a really cool idea to me. Dremel's can do a lot of work without excessively high torque, and I bet any decent 18650 would power it long enough at least to leave a message on your ex-girlfriend's windshield with a diamond-engraving tip.

If the mini-generator was wound correctly, it might provide enough voltage to make for a great stun-gun, too!

(Darn, even I can't tell when I'm kidding around and when I'm being serious!)

You know, some of the best ideas came from an idea that didn't seem serious at the time, but then I sit down and think of the practical applications of the idea and go "ya know, that would have made some money"..... Sure enough 2 years later it comes out on those "As on TV" shelves selling like hotcakes.

Personal defense is a big issue right now, Stun Gun might not be a bad go of it, and why not
The Mini Dremel head would work wonderfully for deburring mods and save lugging around my drill to open up post holes. The applications could be in truth wonderful, especially if you can make it the size of an atomizer so it just goes right in your mod box, no fuss about space.

I have the imagination to dream up wonderful things, I lack the technical ability to put them on paper and in to reality.

 

[twgbonehead]

You know, some of the best ideas came from an idea that didn't seem serious at the time, but then I sit down and think of the practical applications of the idea and go "ya know, that would have made some money"..... Sure enough 2 years later it comes out on those "As on TV" shelves selling like hotcakes.

Personal defense is a big issue right now, Stun Gun might not be a bad go of it, and why not
The Mini Dremel head would work wonderfully for deburring mods and save lugging around my drill to open up post holes. The applications could be in truth wonderful, especially if you can make it the size of an atomizer so it just goes right in your mod box, no fuss about space.

I have the imagination to dream up wonderful things, I lack the technical ability to put them on paper and in to reality.

My mom tried to get me and my brothers to invent "Lojack for Alzheimers patients". 2 years later it was a big business!

A Stun-Gun is actually very doable (although I would use a solid-state DC-DC converter, rather than a motor-generator combo!!!)

A dremel head is also very doable. Doesn't have to be variable-speed (many aren't) but would be nice if it worked as a variable-speed device with VV mods! (On the other hand, might be best suited for mechs).

Sadly, I do have the technical ability to get these down on paper, and perhaps even into a prototype. I always manage to get distracted by something else before it becomes a product, though. Maybe someone in China will clone it before we actually make it, and we can just buy one?

 

[Robino1]

 

[twgbonehead]

Jiffy-Pop on an electric stove!

Man, does that take me back!

 

[johnny madman]

BlkWolfMidnight I'm so glad you started this thread. I can understand some folks point of view of holding the high ground but this is just out of hand. This latest childish knockout thing coupled with what was pulled with the Aspire thing is just damaging the vaping community. It is fine if you want to be an .... at your own BBQ just don't hop over the fence and start acting like a ...... on my lawn.

Not only are these types of acts damaging, a simple idiot can't subject his own wishes and desires on others. I don't know what the entire story is between these folks and what went down, but judging by their behavior I can see why a ban was put on them. They are resorting to underhanded tricks and playing games from manufacturers to the larger community at hand.

I have been hitting the site for the deals page, but honestly 15 million hits and taking a day off? Wow I bet ECF had 10 million hits a day. I will vote with what hurts most. The site will not be visited by me any more, honestly some of the stuff he has started to push is junk. I will find deals at other location and maybe if more of us did this he would need another 32 years to reach another 15 million hits.

All this is stupid, the community should be solid, we are facing regulations coming up, and if any one has any delusions about that then they are in fantasy land just like Joe. Giving feed to the demon, to settle a score with his friend. {Moderated}

 

[BlueCanary]

Really, I probably haven't been around long enough to know what drama you're referring to. This is the only forum on the entire internet that I've ever been on that seems to really not have much drama. I mean, people disagree about stuff, but they seem to be able to do it like grownups without calling one another poopy heads and such. I've found it to be pretty heartening.

And if you're talking about YouTube famous reviewers, bloggers and social media people…it's not just vaping. It's EVERYTHING. A friend of a friend of mine quit her day job and now pretty much supports herself reviewing makeup and skincare products on YouTube. I know lots of people who have achieved their life goals (writing careers, radio shows, TV appearances, etc) and financed their passions by getting noticed on social media/YouTube/blogging etc. It's just…the way things are done now. I wish the option had been open to me when I was younger…I would have loved to be YouTube famous when I was a 20-something, or to have had the option to share information with like-minded folks via the internet that way. It doesn't threaten me or make me mad at those folks. Some of them I love (Twisted420 is my favorite, even though lots of the stuff he reviews is way over my head, because he's just so darn entertaining.) I'm a beekeeper, and there are great YouTube beekeeping personalities that I love, too, like FatBeeMan…and lots of people in online beekeeping communities get similarly upset because of the YouTube crowd and the fact that people like them and pay attention to them and that they make money basically filming themselves doing something that they love and make money off of it. In a way, I can see it…but in a way, no offense, it just seems like drinking the grape hateraide.

 

[twgbonehead]

Robino,

Can we idiots please at least have a hint at what these guys are talking about? Is it the like UltraViolet site? (caps very intentional). And who are these guys they're mentioning, whose names may not be spoken here?

It really is frustrating to hear that there's some major crap going down, and I can't find it!!! Apparently there was some big media event on TV too?

-Clueless in Cleattle.

 

[Robino1]

Don't know about tv.... Probably a video show...

Hmm UltraViolet site.. More than likely