P3: Beta Tester Reviews
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Don't get me wrong, the P3 looks awesome. In fact it's everything I wanted it to be. (Yes I still remember my laundry list of ProVari hate before I was "reformed").
Sadly, now, having been "turned" by the ProVari 2.5, the V3 doesn't provide enough value add.
- Is it freakishly more accurate than a 2.5? Nope
- Do I have a need for Variable Wattage Now? Nope. I rarely adjust my voltage now that I use Kayfuns. I litterally have not had to rebuild a coil in months. My sweet spot for my juices is ohms plus 2.5.
- Do I need 20 Watts? Some people I respect greatly say I should try sub-ohming a kayfun or a Dripper. Haven't tried it. So I concede that point
- Do I need the "power boost". I'd have to compare it to my 2.5 to see if it fundamentally makes my vaping better?
There is no price yet listed for the P3 so a lot of it compares on how much it will actually list for. It's not inconceivable that a P3 will start at $100 or more than a 2.5 (259.00 to $300.00)
Not sure I can say I would find the P3 worth the extra coin. Now if ProVape bought my 2.5 back and gave me $100 or $150 off the price of a P3, now we're talking about a whole new argument......
Don't get me wrong, the P3 looks awesome. In fact it's everything I wanted it to be. (Yes I still remember my laundry list of ProVari hate before I was "reformed").
Sadly, now, having been "turned" by the ProVari 2.5, the V3 doesn't provide enough value add.
- Is it freakishly more accurate than a 2.5? Nope
- Do I have a need for Variable Wattage Now? Nope. I rarely adjust my voltage now that I use Kayfuns. I litterally have not had to rebuild a coil in months. My sweet spot for my juices is ohms plus 2.5.
- Do I need 20 Watts? Some people I respect greatly say I should try sub-ohming a kayfun or a Dripper. Haven't tried it. So I concede that point
- Do I need the "power boost". I'd have to compare it to my 2.5 to see if it fundamentally makes my vaping better?
There is no price yet listed for the P3 so a lot of it compares on how much it will actually list for. It's not inconceivable that a P3 will start at $100 or more than a 2.5 (259.00 to $300.00)
Not sure I can say I would find the P3 worth the extra coin. Now if ProVape bought my 2.5 back and gave me $100 or $150 off the price of a P3, now we're talking about a whole new argument......
Thank you for posting this. Great idea bringing all (most) toppers. I've recently been really enjoying my KFL plus and I can see how the boost feature would be helpful.
The geeky part of me wants to go out to my nearest dealer and plop down over 3 bills to buy the beta from whoever will sell it to me sight unseen. Power boost, cool display, variable wattage, adjustable 510 connector....ooooooooooooh, my toilet is just itching to flush that bad boy.
The common sense part of me tells me I have two highly capable, high quality, nearly indestructible units that have already passed the dunk test, and since I don't need all that eye candy, I should use my money to buy something else....
Eye Candy: For my 2 year tobacco free celebration present(s) I tentatively entered the world of mechanicals. I have to say the Gus Kiss Qorax Edition is the most beautiful mod I have ever held. (SHHHH! Don't tell the 'Varis or BoBo!)
Believe it or not, I would spend more for a "beautiful" hand crafted Mod like a Gus Kiss.
And you and I both know I'll probably end of getting a P3 eventually.......But I have to tell everyone why I won't first.....That's how I wagonwheel....
I put my hands on a P3 today! I drove down to Jackson, TN and talked with the people at Roar Vapor for about an hour. Seriously great people. They let me play with the P3 for a few minutes. Pretty much anything there is to be said, has been said, but I have a couple notes:
1. The Power Boost, is awesome.
2. Remember how long it took to learn how to navigate the Provari when you first layed hands on one? Tack on maybe an extra 30 seconds for the P3. If you are fluent moving through the regular Provari's menu already, it might take 30 seconds total to get the feel for the P3's menu. It's extremely intuitive. No offense to anyone, but if the P3's menu is hard for you after 10 minutes, you should probably just get a mech and Kick it.
3. Regarding the 510 connector coming off with the atomizer... IDK, I didn't have that issue. They took the top cap and 510 connection off, and put it back on in front of me with their fingers, without tightening up with a coin. I put my Kayfun on, the same level of snug I do on any other mod, and it unscrewed just fine without the 510 connector coming with it. (Also, that floating pin is awesome!)
4. One thing that surprised me, is that the screen seems to be measurable smaller, despite giving far more, and more useful, information.
That having been said, if you honestly believe you must subohm, or think that the single button interface is outdated, or whatever, yea, probably not the mod for you.
1. The Power Boost, is awesome.
2. Remember how long it took to learn how to navigate the Provari when you first layed hands on one? Tack on maybe an extra 30 seconds for the P3. If you are fluent moving through the regular Provari's menu already, it might take 30 seconds total to get the feel for the P3's menu. It's extremely intuitive. No offense to anyone, but if the P3's menu is hard for you after 10 minutes, you should probably just get a mech and Kick it.
3. Regarding the 510 connector coming off with the atomizer... IDK, I didn't have that issue. They took the top cap and 510 connection off, and put it back on in front of me with their fingers, without tightening up with a coin. I put my Kayfun on, the same level of snug I do on any other mod, and it unscrewed just fine without the 510 connector coming with it. (Also, that floating pin is awesome!)
4. One thing that surprised me, is that the screen seems to be measurable smaller, despite giving far more, and more useful, information.
That having been said, if you honestly believe you must subohm, or think that the single button interface is outdated, or whatever, yea, probably not the mod for you.
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DAMMIT. Now I'm kinda sorta starting to want one.
But I don't love the look.
Still, I know what'll happen - they come out with Zenkote Gunmetal with a matching ProVarinati bottom cap, or some teardrops, or a flying monkey instead of the <P3> and I'll have to have it.
Or something like that.
But I don't love the look.
Still, I know what'll happen - they come out with Zenkote Gunmetal with a matching ProVarinati bottom cap, or some teardrops, or a flying monkey instead of the <P3> and I'll have to have it.
Or something like that.
I thought about holding out to get a stainless steel polished version(and the off chance of a different logo, although the current one doesn't bother me that much), but then 2 thoughts occured to me:
1. The satin silver is the best as far as not showing scratches and stuff over time.(At least in my experience)
2. When I look at my Provari, all I ever see is an atomizer poking up from my fist anyway.
I haven't been a Provari owner long (about a month) and yet I've already purchased two (though I just sold one in order to get a P3), but when I bought my first one, I got the polished finish. It lasted as long as it took me to get in my car and I realized the polished finish was a finger print magnet and it would drive me bonkers (I redefine OCD), so I turned around and immediately exchanged it for Satin Silver. My second 2.5 (a blem device I just sold) is Satin Silver. The P3 I'll be buying, will be Satin Silver. It's a terrific finish and seems far less susceptible to scratches and finger prints. It's the perfect finish for the OCD impaired!
In 3 years(assuming no truly epic happenings), you will still appreciate the clean look of that satin silver too. I know I do. I got a satin silver and a chrome Provari, back when they were still offered in chrome instead of polished stainless. I passed on the chrome to another, and kept my satin.
I'm really really pleased with the Satin Silver finish. For someone like me, it's perfect!
Owner of two Satin Silvers here too. Not only do they seem to hold up better (no paint to scrape, better at hiding minor scratches). They also are the least expensive of all ProVari's. And 20 bucks saved on a paint job means 20 bucks for something else.
My Brushed Stainless steel Kayfun's look awesome on them.
Hmmmm. A P3.... I know it's an awesome device. That power shot thing sounds really groovy. But is it $100 better than my V2.5's??? I already have two V2.5's do I really need to spend over 3 bills for a third mod????!!!??
Now if ProVape wants to send me a P3 for a used v2.5 and a Benji, I'll put both in the mail tomorrow.
Glad to finally see it out, and see the care and attention to detail they put in the device. We'll see what pricing ends up being. If a P3 ends up being close to $300, then a Satin Silver V2.5 will seem like a bargain at $159.00
My Brushed Stainless steel Kayfun's look awesome on them.
Hmmmm. A P3.... I know it's an awesome device. That power shot thing sounds really groovy. But is it $100 better than my V2.5's??? I already have two V2.5's do I really need to spend over 3 bills for a third mod????!!!??
Now if ProVape wants to send me a P3 for a used v2.5 and a Benji, I'll put both in the mail tomorrow.
Glad to finally see it out, and see the care and attention to detail they put in the device. We'll see what pricing ends up being. If a P3 ends up being close to $300, then a Satin Silver V2.5 will seem like a bargain at $159.00
Let's NOT assume the P3 is going to be 3 bills. That really would put it out of reach for many and I honestly think it will stifle sales, which I don't think Provape wants to do. I do expect it to be more expensive, but hopefully, not that expensive.
I'm sure I could continue with my 2.5 and continue to be a very satisfied camper. I will use it as my backup, but I'm the kind of guy who get's the newest iPhone on launch day. And if I don't get the P3, it will stick in my side when I see people posting how cool their new P3 is. That's why I sold my blem 2.5, which is only a couple weeks old. But then I got almost every penny I paid for it, so it's not like I lost but a couple dollars.
I feel ya. If ProVape has a trade in program (currently they said there's no upgrade available because simply you can't reuse the older tube and put in a new board)
But a TRADE IN program.. That's something I'm interested in. Haven't put any of my babies up on the classies yet since I still want them to backup each other. But once pricing comes out, I'm sure I'll either put the standard up for sale (Mini is more versitile with extension tubes) or trade it in for a P3.....
Gawd I hope they have a trade in program. A P3 as my primary driver (with all the tubes included) and then my V2.5 Mini with it's extension tubes as a backup...Each one able to go to any size battery I wish.......Ohhh....how sweet it is....
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I'd be surprised to see Provape come out with a trade in program. They're not likely looking to take products back. But a Provari should be VERY easy to sell. I wasn't really looking to sell my 2.5 until I had the P3 in hand to be honest. I was just outside vaping with a fellow outside my office building and he knew I was in love with my 2.5 and I told him about the P3 and that I planned to get one. He asked what I'd do with my 2.5 and I said that since I had two, I'd sell one. He opened his wallet and paid me on the spot for my 2.5, so I took the battery out, unscrewed my Nautilus and went back to my office where I had my other 2.5 in my briefcase waiting for me. I brought him the box the next day. Probably the easiest thing I've ever sold. Ever! He also bought my Kangertech Mega for exactly what I paid for it. It was just siting at home in a drawer collecting dust since I discovered how terrific the Nautilus/BVC coil combination is.
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