But would someone please tell me why VW is important to begin with? As long as you can adjust the voltage to get a desirable vape, what difference does it make?
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Some like the fact they can screw on toppers of different resistances and have the device adjust the voltage to give them the same power.
Others say it makes no difference as they use toppers with the same resistance
Others say it makes no difference as they can adjust the voltage.
Others just argue the semantics of the differences of adjusting voltage and adjusting wattage for days on end to argue their positions and the merits of their preferred device.
I say it doesn't matter a jot which you prefer, use what works for you.
If you've always wanted a Provari and didn't buy one because it didn't have VW, well now you can. Woo Hoo.
Looks very nice. Really like what they did with the top end! I think it will be very successful.
The VV vs VW thingy had died down significantly lately. IMO this might actually bring it back for a bit
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Thank you, um, I think!! I still don't quite get why VW makes a hill of beans difference. Maybe it's because I'm not a RBA-dude and my heads use standard coils almost exclusively in 1.8 ohm. Before I got my Provari, I had a Smoktech VV/VW device. I tried it both ways and simply couldn't tell any difference. If the coil heats up, turns the liquid to vapor, which tastes good and gives me a nice vaping experience, maybe I'm stupid but I just don't care if it does it's magic measured in volts or watts.
The VV vs VW thingy had died down significantly lately. IMO this might actually bring it back for a bit
The new argument will be why are provape bringing out something outdated before its even released VS. above 20w is useless we don't need high watts and amp limits
The real question is why is it longer? And why the .... is it 23mm? Seriously!?
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People will argue about just about anything I guess. Your points are just as silly as the VV vs VW thing. The P3 is not the right device for me because of the way I vape, but I understand perfectly why they designed it the way they did and it will be very successful.
Vape on
Someone in another thread alluded to it having a 5 Amp limit, which means it won't go far past 15W on a .7Ω coil.
This thing is barely out of the Provari 2.5 playground. Barely.
I'll give it this, if the limitations of the 2.5 aren't sweating ya, this is definitely an aesthetic improvement over the older dildo.. er I mean Provari. You're certainly not gaining any added usability on the power front, that's for sure.
Hold on to your carto-tanks and Kayfuns Provarinati, you're kind of still stuck in that theatre.
Speak for yourself. I use my AGA T2s on all 3 of my provaris every single day. I know it won'tmake everyone happy but I am super excited! Can you say multi colored LED?
I think I might be interested if their threaded top becomes the beginning of a new 'standard' for threaded tops. For the most part I never had a problem with the lack of power on my ProVaris, they worked just fine with my Kayfuns, clearos and other attys between 1.5 - 3 ohms. It's for that reason why having a 20 watt device is confusing for me. It's not enough to drive an atty that needs power and more than you would need for most modest devices. It's a tweener.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
New toy for my wife. As for me I'll pass. Sounds like the amp limit at 3.5 still remains. Bummer...
People will argue about just about anything I guess. Your points are just as silly as the VV vs VW thing. The P3 is not the right device for me because of the way I vape, but I understand perfectly why they designed it the way they did and it will be very successful.
Vape on
Lol you forgot to say in your opinion
It'll be popular of course, the mass of dedicated fanboys will get anything provape make, and their reputation alone will sell these p3's. Seems more gimmicky then game changing, but it does look like it has some cool features, i guess it does the job for people vaping within the 20w limit.To me the size is ridiculous, the design is plain, the stack of new features are gimmicky yet lacking where they are needed, it will be severely overpriced for what its capabilities are, and it just generally screams 'meh' to me. Build quality is not enough on its own, its weak and barely an update when you look at the specs for what they are, good news for the guys who own the older models and worried about their device being obsolete.
But thats just me, nothing can please everyone, i'd still be much happier with a vaporshark or sigelei 100w, or my ipv2 for that matter
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Existing and prospective Provari users are not interested in pushing the limits of vaping. 20 watts and 0.7 Ω lower aomizer limit is plenty for the vast majority of electronic cigarette users.
For the naysayers: Shut up and spend your money elsewhere.
For the Provariniati: Cheers and enjoy.
For the naysayers: Shut up and spend your money elsewhere.
For the Provariniati: Cheers and enjoy.
I'm glad the Provarinati have the new P3. It will make those happy that:
-derided OLED screen displays (dies if juice hits it)
-pooh-poohed VV/VW (who needs VW?)
-advocated button top batteries for everyone (now P3 users can use flat tops)
-disliked Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 flat top styling (now P3 has it) (P3 is now about the same size as Sigelei)
-derided high power vaping (now P3 is 20W)
I do like the removable top cap as it is an improvement on the removable top caps on Sigelei or some Vamos. I don't want the 20W or the other gizmos, not for a price point that will be way north of $200.
-derided OLED screen displays (dies if juice hits it)
-pooh-poohed VV/VW (who needs VW?)
-advocated button top batteries for everyone (now P3 users can use flat tops)
-disliked Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 flat top styling (now P3 has it) (P3 is now about the same size as Sigelei)
-derided high power vaping (now P3 is 20W)
I do like the removable top cap as it is an improvement on the removable top caps on Sigelei or some Vamos. I don't want the 20W or the other gizmos, not for a price point that will be way north of $200.
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I watched the video. The P3 looks like a nice mod, well built with some good informational modes built into the display. I like the OLED display with stacked data in the same screen. I also like the telescope feature for different batteries and tube lengths. The modifiable 510 ring that lets you modify it for different types of atomizers and adjust the depth and flush fit of the tank is nice. It takes flat tops and I guess button tops as well. That's a feature that my V2 doesn't have.
I haven't heard a price yet. My Provari V2 is 2 years and 4 months old and looking good in spite of the knock-overs, drops, and constant wedding ring abrasions that have left no visible marks. You have to hold it really close and put your glasses on to see anything but satin steel and the logo. Provari is a well made product. It's competition is getting more and more fierce and they are going to have to innovate to keep the lead.
I guess my hesitance in not being fired up to want one is that I haven't worn my first one out yet.
Amp ratings don't worry me. I'm vaping my Kayfun now at 4.5v with a 2.2 ohm coil. That's 9.2W and right about 2 amps. I still have lots of headroom until I hit the 3.5A limit. My Sigelei Zmax V3 will do 4A, but I suspect I won't ever need that much at this point. It's features that will sell me more than heavy duty current.
I haven't heard a price yet. My Provari V2 is 2 years and 4 months old and looking good in spite of the knock-overs, drops, and constant wedding ring abrasions that have left no visible marks. You have to hold it really close and put your glasses on to see anything but satin steel and the logo. Provari is a well made product. It's competition is getting more and more fierce and they are going to have to innovate to keep the lead.
I guess my hesitance in not being fired up to want one is that I haven't worn my first one out yet.
Amp ratings don't worry me. I'm vaping my Kayfun now at 4.5v with a 2.2 ohm coil. That's 9.2W and right about 2 amps. I still have lots of headroom until I hit the 3.5A limit. My Sigelei Zmax V3 will do 4A, but I suspect I won't ever need that much at this point. It's features that will sell me more than heavy duty current.
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I don't believe Provape has ever tried to build a PV for the RBA or Super Watt Chasers crowd. They have concentrated quite successfully at making an extremely well built, durable, ultra reliable, easy to use device, made in US and backed by a fantastic warranty. For those who aren't impressed, that's fine. Just don't buy one. I can honestly say I thought owning a Provari was an overpriced battery holder. That was until I tried one. Now I own two. Do I need more than a 20w device? No. It's a device that works so well FOR ME. So, if you aren't impressed, that's just fine. Don't buy one. But for people who really like Provari, these are going to be a welcome new device with some nice features, from a company who is well respected and who gives beyond excellent service. Oh and I'm proud of the USA. So buying an extremely well made device from a good young American company makes me feel good. Yes it does!
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Looks like a good quality main stream Device.
No Mega power needed to limit sales - Specialty hunters can find those from already established manufacturers.
Just hate to see so many DIE HARD Provari users Proven Wrong about Provape adding VW..................
Oh, and the eVics(x2) are still kicking after 18 months..............hmmm
And no, I wouldn't touch the eVic Supreme. For that price a Provari makes way more sense.
No Mega power needed to limit sales - Specialty hunters can find those from already established manufacturers.
Just hate to see so many DIE HARD Provari users Proven Wrong about Provape adding VW..................
Oh, and the eVics(x2) are still kicking after 18 months..............hmmm
And no, I wouldn't touch the eVic Supreme. For that price a Provari makes way more sense.
Provari is a Buick. Reliable is never outdated.
If you want a sports car, then buy a sports car mod.
I don't get this push for ALL vaping to go high tech. Most people just want a reliable everyday mod, for the same reason Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, etc. are best selling models for decade after decade. Most people seem to like "basic stuff" that has a good warranty and serves them for a long time.
Provari does that. IN spades.
I don't need GPS and fancy. I have a toyota tacoma, i live in the woods, it drives over rocks, tree stumps, up the sides of mountain, over curbs, whatever. It is not a smooth ride, the suspension wasn't made for that. City folk might prefer a Lexus or BMW.
Provari was always a tad heavy for me, which is only reason I don't have one anymore, but I just might buy one in classies again to keep around the house.
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