Pegasus Vapor Academy PVA-40

[sikosam04]

i'v read all the post on this thread, do you people have a clue to what your saying??? or are you just saying these things just to see your own post??? for one thing if you had a business would you risk it all for as little as $28000???

and you shekinahsgroom where is all your personal info, who the hell are you??? if i was in Peg's position i would not put my personal info out there either, just because of people like you. why would he take a chance of having people like you harass him and his family. from what i'v see of most of your post you are one of those people that only post negative comments, you seem to never have any constructive info to offer. so why would i believe anything you post.

ocelot and ravaz you seem to just follow shekinahsgroom lead, how does that make you look, to me it makes you look like exactly what shekinahsgroom is accusing the people that are following Peg of doing.

we are all adults here (???) so grow up people and start acting like adults

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

if i was in Peg's position i would not put my personal info out there either, just because of people like you. why would he take a chance of having people like you harass him and his family.

I haven't harassed anyone, and I've never published his personal info anywhere....it can all be found on the internet.

I've provided LINKS to where that info is published, so peeps can do their own homework.

Take a good look at Ocelot's and my post numbers and how long we've been on this forum.

We've BOTH seen a lot and know a lot, we're very experienced members.

 

[Madcuzbad87]

I messaged Peg after he did a small run through of the GOD mod 180. Just with a question about it. He proceeded to try and push his project on me through our emails. That's fine I get it. However, with as big as vaping is now, and if his ideas were sound, and he did indeed have all the manufacturing things worked out, then he should have no issue getting funding for it. And I don't mean through a crowd funding campaign, I mean by finding investors to help him. If his idea is as good as he says, if it's only 28k he needs, it wouldn't be that difficult to wrangle up a few investors, produce his product, repay said investor (with interest), then release a preorder for future units.

I'm just being honest. 28k isn't that much money in the realm of business investment. I'm wondering if he tried this already and was shot down, and if so I'd like to know why. I'm completely fine buying a 100+ watt mod with dual 18650's for LESS then the 140 he proposed, and I know what I'm getting is high quality and carries a warranty.

I'm not bashing, I'm just stating the obvious. I'm all for new things flooding the market, I'm however not ok with funding someone that could easily (if his plans were sound) find investors the right way.

 

[maabaa]

Made some fair points. At least enough to make me raise an eyebrow (thanks).

The true identity would be nice. I don't see Phil Busardo or Rip Trippers or most of the big vaping youtubers hiding their identities, and it doesn't seem to be a problem.
Why is it with Peg ?

 

[Duffloop]

Just wondering if Shekinahsgroom (or anyone) emailed Peg directly to answer their concerns/questions?

(I'm not a buyer BTW so no bias here)
And how come no one's posted the vid! ...

 

[OldtimeRocker]

I like the looks of this Mod myself. You cant touch the price its fair and looks to be a high quality Mod. 140 seem just about right. I don't think right now you can touch a DNA 40 mod for under 200, not that i have seen. To some people 28k is a lot of money but others not so much. Only a fool would destroy their on line and real life for 28k, Peg is neither of these. Some are just going to hate, mostly they are just jealous because they cant do the same thing and make it work.

Am in. I may end end buying 2.

Vape On !

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Just wondering if Shekinahsgroom (or anyone) emailed Peg directly to answer their concerns/questions?

(I'm not a buyer BTW so no bias here)
And how come no one's posted the vid! ...

No I haven't, but I know people who have and didn't receive an answer.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Made some fair points. At least enough to make me raise an eyebrow (thanks).

The true identity would be nice. I don't see Phil Busardo or Rip Trippers or most of the big vaping youtubers hiding their identities, and it doesn't seem to be a problem.
Why is it with Peg ?

While I agree with Peg not disclosing his identity on forums, everyone hides it as it's a requirement here and many other forums....and you cannot publish other people's personal info in a thread.

But a reviewer? Don't think anybody would really care...I certainly wouldn't.

Now offering what some peeps CLEARLY believe to be a Group Buy, when it very clear is NOT, and not revealing your identity to peeps that are sending you money.....is definitely questionable.

But even still peeps have lost enormous amounts of cash knowing a Co-Op host's real name and their addresses and there are two giant one's here that prove this to be true: Tim Jarvis & Eric Koehler.

But it does help to at least have that info so if something does go horribly wrong, you'll know.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Am in. I may end end buying 2.

Vape On !

Thanks for coming to the party OTR, I've been expecting you.

 

[OldtimeRocker]

Was not until i saw the video up date this morning. It's really close 9 days to get the last 9k could go either way. really i think your helping Peg out more than hurting him, but am a nooby what the heck do i know

Have fun but i got thing to do today.

Go Pats !!!!

 

[sikosam04]

i personally have contacted Peg by email several times and always received a quick response

so what is your issue with Peg anyways??

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Was not until i saw the video up date this morning. It's really close 9 days to get the last 9k could go either way. really i think your helping Peg out more than hurting him, but am a nooby what the heck do i know .

So you say...but I was expecting you before then.

Only Peg thinks that I'm hurting him....and I'm sure that there are others that seriously do not like their lil' boat being rocked when I toss in LIFE JACKETS by the handful.

But he should be learning a lot about what it means to be honest with the people that will be buying his product?

If you're gonna tell everyone that you're selling everything "pretty much at cost", then he shouldn't be pisst when someone proves that that's not the case!

Disclosure is essential especially when your customers are footing the bill.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

So what is your issue with Peg anyways??

With Peg?

None at all....

It's this whole project that I'm questioning it's legitimacy.

It could be anybody.

 

[sikosam04]

i'm with oldtimerocker, your probably helping Peg more than your hurting him anyways, so keep up the good work shekinahsgroom

90% of your post are negative anyways so why would i believe anything you post??? just saying

 

[jsx821]

i'm with oldtimerocker, your probably helping Peg more than your hurting him anyways, so keep up the good work shekinahsgroom

90% of your post are negative anyways so why would i believe anything you post??? just saying

Peg has been short with me on youtube and flat out a little rude rude IMO. Not just to me but I've read comments that hes posted to others and they were pretty questionable.. Esp since hes the owner of a 'legit' business and being a youtuber and all. Honestly- I dont believe in one thing hes saying.. Theres more to the story that hes not telling all of us. Eithrr way.. Best of luck to you. Hope you and many others get your $140 worth.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Only a fool would destroy their on line and real life for 28k, Peg is neither of these.

I agree...and Peg is no fool!

I believe that his intention is to make a real "device", but just what will be in it is in direct question at the moment.

DNA40? Not made in China, so clearly something "unexplained" is going on there. Evolv doesn't sell their boards to China and warranties are non-transferrable. So this right here leaves a GIANT unknown???

And...if Peg isn't building the DNA into the box himself, then who is?

FDV connector? Are you sure?


While Peg and I BOTH know a lot about MOQ's and China's production costs, we both know that a small project like this AIN'T gonna cheap!

OEM products have very high MOQ's and that's essentially what Peg is organizing. There's no factory anywhere that's gonna retool to build a custom enclosure unless you meet a very high MOQ....and 200 ain't gonna do it. As he pointed out in his most recent video....an MOQ of 1000....200 for the campaign and 800 in his stock.

So why is he coming out now and stating this info?

Did all of these peeps buying into the campaign KNOW that 1000 would be produced?

Who's paying for the 800?

Lot's of unanswered questions which leads to many more....

That's not something that I caused, because it was Peg's own admission and/or stated scenario.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

90% of your post are negative anyways so why would i believe anything you post??? just saying

Who said that I was out to hurt Peg?

I'm here to help the peeps that are seriously considering buying into this campaign without knowing ANYTHING about Peg or what you may or may not be getting.

You absolutely shouldn't just believe anything that I say, siko!

You should do your own homework and find out EXACTLY what you're buying, who you're buying it from, if you'll be receiving whatever it is you're buying in writing and what warranty or guarantees that you have if it breaks, never arrives or you get it and it's not what you were expecting!

And this is EXACTLY....what I've been trying to help you locate.

 

[GeorgeF]

From what I have seen in all of this Shekinahsgroom has a lot of good points.
I looked at the Pegasus Vapor Academy website and about the only thing worth buying would be the tweezers. Every RDA and Mod is a clone. And the unfair and deceptive advertising of them is worrisome. He lists the names and does not disclose that any of them are clones.

I have been doing research and looking into buying an authentic mod and RDA. What I have found in my research is you can buy a Sigeli 100w box for around $100. I own one and paid a bit more at a local B&M. It is the first version with the adjustable center pin. The ones I have seen online are either the v1 or the v2.

I can't believe there are that many sheep in the herd. Really the guy is hiding behind the name Pegasus. I don't trust it at all. The person running that business should have the FTC on them. Most other places, that are reputable, fully disclose if their products are authentic or clones. That alone tells me that Peg doesn't have my trust.

 

[sikosam04]

i can waste my time on here with you all day shekinahsgroom, or just move on, i choose to move on.
the only person your helping is yourself
i'm a big boy now i don't need your kind of help

 

[ravaz]

ocelot and ravaz you seem to just follow shekinahsgroom lead, how does that make you look, to me it makes you look like exactly what shekinahsgroom is accusing the people that are following Peg of doing.

I hear you. But I honestly am just venting and voicing my opinions and why I'm not buying one of those (besides I make my own, but still buy others mods that are worth it). I can voice myself here, but on his channel and videos, it would get regulated by him to keep it positive, which is the truth. I honestly hope it works out for everyone. If it does, awesome, that's really great and I mean it. If not, then what can you do. Good luck to all. Happy holidays.