Pegasus Vapor Academy PVA-40

[Shekinahsgroom]

I don't see anything sneaky and nefarious about a businessman who wants to make money as long as he charges a fair price for his products and delivers what he's promised. Maybe he didn't spell out his entire financial plan on the video but I think that's an unreasonable expectation for anyone.

Like I've already said, everybody's different.

So if you're okay with sending a total stranger whom you don't know his name, his address or his phone number.....$140+ (or less) expecting a mod that hasn't even been built yet....no prototype, nothing that's actually tangible....then I seriously hope that you get what you're expecting.

Cuz most peeps won't and would want to know at LEAST his real name and maybe a phone number and something in writing before they send him a penny.

I happen to be one of those people.

That's really what all of this is about...right?

Informing the public.

 

[sikosam04]

Eh-eh, I tried it myself....the "private" function will show as PRIVATE just below your sign-up name.

But thanks for pointing that out!

"Anonymous"...is this buyer's sign-up name.

So unless there's 20 some peeps all using the same name, the private function is something entirely different.

Peg pointed that out in his video.

Now if there's another option in there that automatically names any given person as "Anonymous", then I didn't see it myself.

Is the Anonymous scenario that you're stating a possibility? Ofcourse.

Is the shill also a possibility? Yes

if you actually make a purchase then it gives you the option to show as anonymous. and several people chose to do just that

 

[RandyF]

I do find it quite ironic that someone who has a motto of "question everything", is very sensitive when he is the one being questioned. Isn't the whole theme of his YT channel to gather the most information you can to make the most informed decision possible?

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

I do find it quite ironic that someone who has a motto of "question everything", is very sensitive when he is the one being questioned. Isn't the whole theme of his YT channel to gather the most information you can to make the most informed decision possible?

(Applause)

 

[fredrikstad]

It`s what I trying to tell you, and sorry for my weak english. I am not that afraid to loose the 80 dollar. I am willing to take that chance to maybe get an awsome legit dna 40 dual 18650 with quality parts, like fat daddy 510 connector and SS clicky buttons. If he want to ruin his life for 26K, then let him. I wish you could mind your own buisniess and stay out of it. You obveselly don`t want to send him your money, so just pay 300 for a VaporFlask or a ZNA 30 from (not his real name Zen).
Kind regards "tottosan" (not my real name) from youtube.
Let him speak for him self
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSsFtXMpaVM

 

[fredrikstad]

Go into that crowdfunding campaign....and click on the "funders" tab at the top.

Now scroll through the entire list starting from the very bottom....and COUNT how many purchases "Anonymous" has made and how much money he's contributed.

And if that doesn't scare you enough to believe that this whole thing could be a set-up, then you seriously need a reality check!

I my selfe has an anonymous purchase of 80 dollars. There are several reasons for people not wont their names on the net.I suppose your name isn`t Shekinahsgroom?

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

I suppose your name isn`t Shekinahsgroom?

Ofcourse not, just like your isn't fredrikstad.

Keep reading the thread, you're a little behind.

 

[bunnomatic]

So can one person go to this site and keep making purchases and use anonymous? Just curious

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

I am not that afraid to loose the 80 dollar.

You might not be and that's perfectly fine, but most people aren't as willing to lose their money.

There are a lot of peeps in this thread that have learned a substantial amount of what they didn't know before signing up.

And that's exactly what my point has been from the very start.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

So can one person go to this site and keep making purchases and use anonymous? Just curious

Yep....it appears so.

So both scenarios are possible.

 

[bunnomatic]

Personally I would rather wait and pay 200 when it is a proven item rather them risk getting nothing. But hey, what the hell do I know anyway.

 

[fredrikstad]

Made some fair points. At least enough to make me raise an eyebrow (thanks).

The true identity would be nice. I don't see Phil Busardo or Rip Trippers or most of the big vaping youtubers hiding their identities, and it doesn't seem to be a problem.
Why is it with Peg ?

Do you think his real name is Rip Tripper?

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Personally I would rather wait and pay 200 when it is a proven item rather them risk getting nothing. But hey, what the hell do I know anyway.

I honestly think that Peg has every intention of building this device....

BUT, the multiple possibilities of everyone not getting what they're expecting, not getting a device at all or some other kind of stall scenario are all on the table.


Here's a fact that only those that are closely watching the release of the DNA40 would know.

How many peeps in here KNOW that the first 2 releases, V1.1 & V1.2 have multiple problems?

One is disclosed by Evolv right on the pdf data sheet itself HERE.

Scroll down to the bottom "Errata" section.


This is one of the issues, which really isn't anything to worry about IMO.

But the latest discovery...isn't good!

Peeps are experiencing a screen lock-up when vaping at sub-ohm's using the temperature control feature, which is causing major problems.

Evolv is really stepping up their game though and is offering to repair mods that have already been built (like major mod builders) and replace any faulty boards with the newest release where the problem has been resolved....the V1.3

But anything being made with the two previous versions stands a chance of total failure.

Someone else informed me that Vaporshark pretty much had a meltdown when their mods were failing, so hence Evolv making good on their promises.


Does everyone that's buying the PVA-40 know which version that you'll be getting?

 

[qorax]

Do you think his real name is Rip Tripper?

He doesn't sell a device either

 

[stanthemanchan]

Like I've already said, everybody's different.

So if you're okay with sending a total stranger whom you don't know his name, his address or his phone number.....$140+ (or less) expecting a mod that hasn't even been built yet....no prototype, nothing that's actually tangible....then I seriously hope that you get what you're expecting.

Every transaction on the internet is exactly what you've described. When you put your credit card into a website you are trusting that they will deliver on their end of the deal. Any website could have a fake name and phone number on it and disappear as soon as you've entered your money. However you trust that they won't abscond with your money because they have a reputation to uphold if they want to stay in business. In Pegasus's case, he isn't an anonymous nobody. He has a youtube channel that he has had up for more than a year with over 100 videos and over 10,000 subscribers. Granted, I don't know the guy, but from the stuff he posts, it seems like he cares a lot more about his reputation than the money he could make from this project. If he really wanted to be a scammer, there are a lot easier ways to do it than to start up a youtube channel and start creating content.

 

[bunnomatic]

Every transaction on the internet is exactly what you've described. When you put your credit card into a website you are trusting that they will deliver on their end of the deal. Any website could have a fake name and phone number on it and disappear as soon as you've entered your money. However you trust that they won't abscond with your money because they have a reputation to uphold if they want to stay in business. In Pegasus's case, he isn't an anonymous nobody. He has a youtube channel that he has had up for more than a year with over 100 videos and over 10,000 subscribers. Granted, I don't know the guy, but from the stuff he posts, it seems like he cares a lot more about his reputation than the money he could make from this project. If he really wanted to be a scammer, there are a lot easier ways to do it than to start up a youtube channel and start creating content.

My credit card company protects me from fraud. What guarantee do I have other than blind trust in this case? I trust no one with an empty promise to give me a great deal if I will give them money.

He should use his real company to take credit cards and give me fraud protection then, don't you think?

 

[faboom]

I'm one of those who contributed to the PVA-40 design and invested in one and that's what made the difference for me. I did my homework before I invested and have the money to risk. I think about the smokers out there who spend hundreds a month and get nothing but bad health and I'm proud to be part of putting something out there that will enable them to live better, healthier, lives! Healthy discourse is good if it is done in good faith. Let's move on and support those who are working to get people more healthy by giving them a good alternative.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

My credit card company protects me from fraud. What guarantee do I have other than blind trust in this case? I trust no one with an empty promise to gave me a great deal if I will give them money.

I thought the same, but not all CC's have the same protections....some are less than 90 days. Which if delivery is in April...eh-eh, no protection.

Others have terms which include 90 days beyond the discovery of "no item received", but the processing of a claim could be a HUGE headache and could take 6-12 months from that time to get your money back.

 

[towelie]

My credit card company protects me from fraud. What guarantee do I have other than blind trust in this case? I trust no one with an empty promise to give me a great deal if I will give them money.

He should use his real company to take credit cards and give me fraud protection then, don't you think?

Factually what you call "money" is indeed blind trust. FRB: What is lawful money? How is it different from legal tender?
What, you don't think Quantitative Easing counts as trust and faith? Seriously?

 

[bunnomatic]

That does it. I'll just wait for my iStick and move on lol