Phycology of quitting analogs

[MudVaper]

I'm all over the place and mix my own. Its a mint/menthol mix I came up with and really love it. Have done zero experiments with other flavors, basically because I'm too cheap and I really do love my mix, I call it minthall.

Usually at 12 mg, but use 6 at night and first thing in the morning. Alternate between 18% and 12 % for my day juice. My smoking anxiety is usually the worst in the afternoon. It doesn't seem to matter if it's a stressful day at work or a pleasant afternoon at home. That's when I'm most likely to smoke.

I have no less than 10 clearomizers ready at hand at any given moment for whatever my need is. (just got my first real tank last month) and looking at getting a lemo.

I tried going up to 24 but it was too much.

Ironically, I haven't lit up since the one I mentioned that was late in the morning my time - even though I had to work extra late and then walk to A REALLY BORING CITY POLICY MEETING I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO, hahaha. Usually I would smoke one before the meeting, followed by a second one for the short walk. Then sit and stew all through the meeting for not being able to smoke, sneak out and smoke at least one during the meeting if at all possible, then chain smoke no less than three after the meeting.

At first, it was the bad taste lingering in my mouth that really kept me from lighting up. Then the panic mostly passed and I really don't want one at all. Until I do.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

I was a very heavy smoker, sometimes I'd chainsmoke until I'd feel almost sick, when I made the switch and got a really bad craving I'd chain vape like a madman until I couldn't handle anymore nicotine, I was using 18mg at the time so it actually didn't take that long...

Get yourself an extra tank, something you wont use all the time, fill it with a high nicotine liquid and only use it when you get a really intense craving and vape the crap out of it, use your normal setup otherwise..

I don't recommend a subohm tank, something like a genitank or a aspire nautilus mini..

 

[MudVaper]

Get yourself an extra tank, something you wont use all the time, fill it with a high nicotine liquid and only use it when you get a really intense craving and vape the crap out of it, use your normal setup otherwise..

That is good advice.

I got an REO clone that works really well for this - except it is totally impractical for outside the house.

 

[DorianC]

So, what tricks do those of you who have quit analogs use when your mind (I call it that lizard part of my brain- the part that doesn't think logically and just wants what it wants) craves lighting up a cigarette?

Right at the moment, I'm in a high-stress situation at work and I keep wanting to smoke. In fact, my craving is keeping me from getting my work done.

I haven't lit up yet but keep wanting too. It doesn't help that my office is smoker friendly and right now everyone who is around me still smokes.

I've been trying to quit analogs by vaping for over two years now and am feeling really frustrated about the fact that I have yet to make a 24-hour period without lighting up and smoking at least 2 cigs.

I smoked two this morning before work before I even realized what I was doing.

I got panicked like this last week, and managed to vape only by telling myself I could like up and smoke as much as I wanted. Just giving myself permission to smoke made the panic go away even though I didn't smoke at all.

I'm worried because the night before last, I forgot my mod at the office and when I got home I ended up smoking over half a pack between getting home and returning to the office the next day. My old volts are not cutting it anymore period.

Yes- I am working on getting a better backup system, which would have negated that problem.

Right at this moment, I am in total panic/crave mode even though cigs are not tasting good to me at all.


Just putting my thoughts to words has helped - thanks for reading it if you get this far

I began smoking in 1979 and for most of that smoked over two packs a day, oftentimes three.

For what it's worth to you:
I had exactly the same issues and struggled as well. For me, cigarettes felt like "real smoking" so unless
I inhaled a four thousand chemical stick of tar, my mind would crave it.

Lucky for me, i had an epiphany one night while laboring over it.
The subconscious is an eight year old child. It will find every reason, every excuse, every lie to
have what your conscious mind says it can't have.

So treat it like a child. Lie to it. "I can ave one any time I want". Light one up if you crave it
to prove it. Then embrace fully when you vape. Think on how good it tastes and how much
you are benefiting from it.

Make a conscious pleasant experience of tasting different juices and explore the world of vaping
as a discovery of all the wonderful mods and flavors available. When you hit a hard craving,
or find the ecig unavailable, light one up. Now, think of how "Ruddy" and "gutter" it tastes.
Take a taste and realize it doesn't taste pleasant and you're only doing it for the moment.

For me, the subconscious did yield the the joy of vaping. Eventually, cravings went away. Taste and smell
returned, and even if I found a mild craving coming on, I could ignore it.

Hang in stay true and dont thk of it as something you have to do, think of it as something you want to do.

GOOD LUCK!
Dorian

 

[MudVaper]

For what it's worth to you:
I had exactly the same issues and struggled as well. For me, cigarettes felt like "real smoking" so unless
I inhaled a four thousand chemical stick of tar, my mind would crave it

GOOD LUCK!
Dorian

Worth a great deal Dorian.

 

[AndriaD]

The subconscious is an eight year old child. It will find every reason, every excuse, every lie to
have what your conscious mind says it can't have.

Mine isn't even as rational as an 8 yr old -- it's a lot more like a 2 or 3 yr old. It never asks "why?" or "why not?" it just screams GIMME I WANT IT GIMME GIMME NOW NOW NOW I WANT IT NOW!!!!!

Andria

 

[DorianC]

Mine isn't even as rational as an 8 yr old -- it's a lot more like a 2 or 3 yr old. It never asks "why?" or "why not?" it just screams GIMME I WANT IT GIMME GIMME NOW NOW NOW I WANT IT NOW!!!!!

Andria

Too bad we can't spank the subconscious, eh?

 

[DorianC]

Worth a great deal Dorian.

Thanks MudVaper.

 

[AndriaD]

Too bad we can't spank the subconscious, eh?

I just screamed at mine ENOUGH! NO MORE SMOKING! and that worked for about 10 days, after i came back from my relapse -- it shut up and stopped pestering me IS IT TIME NOW HOW ABOUT NOW? IS IT TIME? HUH? HUH? WHAT ABOUT NOW? But when it started back up again 10 days later, I stuck a pacifier in its mouth -- a/k/a, WTA. It worked. Haven't heard a single peep outta that brat since I added it.

And, as I've said over and over... WTA is really only effective if you've already laid the cigarettes down. WTA will not give you "the way to quit." The way to quit is, just don't light them up. But if you're doing ok with not lighting them up, but cravings still badger you... then it may be time for WTA.

Andria

 

[MudVaper]

Mine isn't even as rational as an 8 yr old -- it's a lot more like a 2 or 3 yr old. It never asks "why?" or "why not?" it just screams GIMME I WANT IT GIMME GIMME NOW NOW NOW I WANT IT NOW!!!!!

Andria

Hardcore

 

[MudVaper]

And, as I've said over and over... WTA is really only effective if you've already laid the cigarettes down. WTA will not give you "the way to quit." The way to quit is, just don't light them up. But if you're doing ok with not lighting them up, but cravings still badger you... then it may be time for WTA.

Andria

I think I will try to squeeze my budget and get this now for when I do manage to go a day or two, that way it will be on hand.

Done better today, btw. Lit up the same one three times, after two weak puffs, didn't want it anymore.

 

[DorianC]

I just screamed at mine ENOUGH! NO MORE SMOKING! and that worked for about 10 days, after i came back from my relapse -- it shut up and stopped pestering me IS IT TIME NOW HOW ABOUT NOW? IS IT TIME? HUH? HUH? WHAT ABOUT NOW? But when it started back up again 10 days later, I stuck a pacifier in its mouth -- a/k/a, WTA. It worked. Haven't heard a single peep outta that brat since I added it.

And, as I've said over and over... WTA is really only effective if you've already laid the cigarettes down. WTA will not give you "the way to quit." The way to quit is, just don't light them up. But if you're doing ok with not lighting them up, but cravings still badger you... then it may be time for WTA.

Andria

I found WTA's useful too. I think you mentioned wholecig, they really do seem to help with the heavy lifting.

BTW: Thanks to you and all the other posters that help with the questions and advice, you all really do perform a service to the community. These forums are an important key to saving lives.

 

[MudVaper]

"BTW: Thanks to you and all the other posters that help with the questions and advice, you all really do perform a service to the community. These forums are an important key to saving lives."

Amen to that

 

[AndriaD]

"BTW: Thanks to you and all the other posters that help with the questions and advice, you all really do perform a service to the community. These forums are an important key to saving lives."

Amen to that

I'd go along with that; the lovely people here helped me IMMENSELY when I just couldn't seem to get a handle on it, and have helped so much with all the technical details of the hardware -- this has got to be the best support group imaginable! And you can even attend in your jammies!

Andria

 

[DorianC]

I'd go along with that; the lovely people here helped me IMMENSELY when I just couldn't seem to get a handle on it, and have helped so much with all the technical details of the hardware -- this has got to be the best support group imaginable! And you can even attend in your jammies!

Andria

Me in my jammies is not visual anyone would relish. LOL

 

[MudVaper]

Me in my jammies is not visual anyone would relish. LOL

Me either. That's why I'm in my robe instead.

 

[AndriaD]

I'm fully dressed today -- I'm even wearing makeup! That hardly EVER happens!

Andria

 

[Analias]

@MudVaper , you're on the right track for sure. Some great pearls of wisdom gained through experience have been cast before you! If you want to upgrade your gear (which I think is a GREAT idea) get a good sub ohm starter kit and use the 1.5 or 1.8 ohm MouthToLung (MTL) coils for a while. Tighten down the airflow and use low wattage. Watch out if you get your gear at a local brick & mortar staffed by cloud blowing kids. They are into the hobby aspect and are probably lung hitters and may not be giving you solid advice about kicking a lethal habit.
A couple of rigs are out there that are sub ohm tanks on pen style internal batteries. Fairly inexpensive, but effective. Kanger's new Subvod springs to mind. I always recommend to my smoker friends that they drop a hundred bucks on good gear and joose. The Evic mini with the Tron tank is a nice gear package and the mod is firmware upgradeable and really keeping pace with the industry. Get some 1.2% nic joose and reach for the vape when you want a cig. Gear is much cheaper online. Shop and compare at your local B&M, then find it online for less. Switch the habit! Good luck and remember, if I could do it, anybody can do it!

 

[MudVaper]

@MudVaper , you're on the right track for sure. Some great pearls of wisdom gained through experience have been cast before you! If you want to upgrade your gear (which I think is a GREAT idea) get a good sub ohm starter kit and use the 1.5 or 1.8 ohm MouthToLung (MTL) coils for a while. Tighten down the airflow and use low wattage. Watch out if you get your gear at a local brick & mortar staffed by cloud blowing kids. They are into the hobby aspect and are probably lung hitters and may not be giving you solid advice about kicking a lethal habit.
A couple of rigs are out there that are sub ohm tanks on pen style internal batteries. Fairly inexpensive, but effective. Kanger's new Subvod springs to mind. I always recommend to my smoker friends that they drop a hundred bucks on good gear and joose. The Evic mini with the Tron tank is a nice gear package and the mod is firmware upgradeable and really keeping pace with the industry. Get some 1.2% nic joose and reach for the vape when you want a cig. Gear is much cheaper online. Shop and compare at your local B&M, then find it online for less. Switch the habit! Good luck and remember, if I could do it, anybody can do it!

Thanks for the good wishes - it helps everyone trying to quit.

It's all online for me. I live out in the middle of nowhere. No vape stores for 300 miles.

I'm enjoying the Eleaf istick I got a few weeks ago, with a kanger aerotank. Its great, but can't keep up with chain-vaping - which is another scenario that sometimes leads to smoking.

My Mr. surprised me earlier this week and is getting me a ProVari 2.5 which should be here Wednesday. Not really interested in going sub ohm right now.

After much B.S., I found a place to sell me a Kabuki, just ordered today, so who knows when it will arrive all the way up here.

Also ordered a Lemo 2 and other stuff needed to begin learning to coiling myself.

I'll acquire multiples as I figure out what I like the most and as finances allow.

 

[Analias]

My Mr. surprised me earlier this week and is getting me a ProVari 2.5 which should be here Wednesday. Not really interested in going sub ohm right now.

Hey @MudVaper, I'm not sure if you understood what I was saying, it may not have been clearly explained so I'll go again. You can get a sub-ohm tank with many new starter kits. Most of them come with coils that are lower resistance than one ohm, hence the term sub-ohm, AND a coil that is above one ohm of resistance - which is what I was recommending you to try. The 1.5 ohm or 1.8 ohm coils (above one ohm) are a good way to start the transition from ciggies to vaping, especially when you restrict the airflow and use lower wattage. Then when you are used to vaping and ready to, your gear will let you use sub-ohm coils and turn up the power. That's all I was trying to convey. Whatever way you go with your gear, reach for the vape! My good old Provari and a Nautilus tank running 1.8 ohm coils finally got me off the stinkies.