Get the feeling people like him wouldn't talk to other people like that in person don't you? Only on the internet. Pretty easy to be an ... and call someone a liar behind a computer screen.
I suspect that if he did treat people the same face to face that he wouldn't have his pretty little Elvis hairdo for long.
Yeah all seems great now, ecig market's exploding, what's not factored in is the fact that new juice vendors are popping up constantly. People are frugal in today's times. Most people also like to be treated with respect as well as respect a good vendor, why some people find it "cool" or "neat" or whatever they find desirable about being talked to that way is incomprehensible to me.
Yes, it is incomprehensible and reprehensible. But what I find even more incomprehensible is the fact that there are customers who always join in on the feeding frenzy. That there are people who say " I don't care how he treats people, I love his juice" and continue to buy from him. If I would have read his forums before I bought from him, I would have never ordered from a person like him no matter what I read in the reviews.
I dunno, I guess people could call me a BWB shill, apologist whatever. But I have yet to see ONE single complaint with Don. Yeah I like Don, we got a lot in common, we'll talk on the phone for an hour bout hunting, fishing, whatever. But I'll tell you this much, and not that it would ever happen, but he started treating people that way, I'd tell him off. I'd find another vendor while I was at it too. Just don't fit here ya know?
Nothing wrong with saying you like a certain vendor. Doesn't make you a shill. I love Don's juice and in fact vape it every day. Which came as a surprise to me as I was beginning to think I would never find a juice I liked well enough to do that. I've never spoken to him on the phone but through e-mails he is a great guy and I don't think he would ever deliberately treat people badly. I am not a believer in the saying that the customer is always right because...well.....I don't think it's true. LOL. So if someone like Don did have a complaint, I would have faith in the fact that Don had done everything within reason to solve the problem. I also know he would never go into or start a thread for the sole purpose of trying to humiliate a person.
And as far as being taken care of, I didn't expect for one second TV to be responsible for the co op mishap, just wanted to know if TV juice was really that weak. I was new, looking at vendors, figured the co op was a good way of finding a few flavors that I'd like and go the doubler route, seemed to make nice affordable vaping. Not one out of 24 would I purchase again. I STILL think they probably make good juice. But I won't find out unless I take a PIF that includes a bottle, and I might even take a stand on that after this.
I do really feel for all of you who had such high hopes from them and then for it to turn out the way it did. And yes I do feel he should make it right but easier to blame everyone else I guess. As far as PIF, I am a stubborn wench and there have been many juices I have wanted to try but unfortunately, there often seems to be mostly TV included so I won't take it.
As far as saving others, I just figure if another co op is ran, that SOB won't be short on flavor, it'll have time to steep, and everyone will be happy......if nothing else he'll go out of his way to make us all look like liars.....that's fine with me. At least I won't have to watch 1/2 the co op lots dumped in the classys every times one's ran, or see pics of nasty "goo"
and of course the answer to everything
Since they didn't have any taste I can reuse the bottles......yay!
