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epluribus_vapor

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Great Job man.

Btw LOL @ "it's cool looking, it's high tech, and it smells good,"

nice job Doc Vapor!!!! If only she would have added it makes girls like you we could all go down to the local elementary school and get rich!!!

HEHE!

LMAO... touche salesman!
 

420GypsyGirl

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I think the report was still to negative and did not have a neutral stance. I mean the guy at the end said there is still smoke, the woman agreed and then the guy that did the report goes, "Yeah..." it is not smoke! ::sigh:: We need a serious report done by a good reporter who digs for the facts and finds the truth. Not half-truths and misleading info. ::sigh::

Good job though...you should be a little upset that they did what they did.
 

epluribus_vapor

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I knew that it would be twisted, but they didn't twist it as far as some have. Trust me, it was hard to talk to them on camera for 40 or so minutes (to get a 10 second chance on tv) thinking constantly "what do I say that CAN'T be taken out of context and used against me". I tried.... and it's a start... I say more exposure can be a good thing as long as it gives us a fair chance (or at least enough to let people find something that leads them to do their own research).

And the "glycerine fog" comment WAS taken from a longer piece. I said that the argument against PG isn't true, and not even valid in most cases. He said "so yeah, it's just water vapor", to which I said (and here's what you saw... kinda), Start: Well, no, it's not just 'water vapor', this is a vapor from PG or Glycerine, I use Glycerine because it's been reviewed as 'safer', although not really proven', and [begin soundbyte] it's basically a fog, a glycerine fog... so yeah, a little twisting of my words, but again, not horribly offensive, and it didn't condemn us... AND got at least a couple of people to research this for themselves....

It angered me at first, but it sank in that these are non-smokers... they don't CARE, nor should they... I'm an avid supporter of gun rights, but most non-gun owners couldn't care less about gun rights... think of it like Hitchhikers Guide... people wear their OPP (Other People's Problem) glasses, and miss most of what is happening around them.
 
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Vocalek

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I thought you came off great -- well spoken and rational.

I suppose Dr. Heath was right that they are dangerous in the sense that inhaling anything other than pure, unpolluted air is dangerous. But, as she also said, they're less dangerous than cigarettes (and I don't know where to find unpolluted air to breathe, anyway.)

The only people I've met who think a PV looks cool are the ones who are trying to quit smoking. They come over and ask all about it. The others could care less.

I don't think that's where Dr. Health is coming from. Obviously she has figured out that there must be many more toxic ingredients in tobacco cigarettes, but she probably believes e-cigarettes are dangerous because that's what the FDA wants her to believe.

I left a comment on the station's site that I don't blame Dr. Heath for being confused. I blame the FDA for the spin they put on their test results, and pointed out how FDA neglected to mention that the same chemicals are found in the same quantities in their own products. Also mentioned that if 8 of 10 users have completely switched away from the tobacco cigarettes to e-cigarettes, that makes them 8 times more effective than the FDA products.

(OK, I did ignore the antifreeze issue, but I was trying to be concise. And besides if FDA was being purposely misleading about one chemical, we can't trust what they say about any of them, now can we?)
 

Kresh

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Well done! I know how hard it is to be as careful as you can with what you say for prolonged periods of time. It is difficult at best and impossible for 40 minutes! At least they didn't get you to say you used this to quit smoking. Again, the non-smokers who don't realize the gigantic leap of health increase from analogs to e-cigs. They don't have enough time to delve into the e-cig society to understand it all. I do think they put an overall positive spin as you were given the final comment over the doctor. Wonder if your local newspaper would take to an editorial or an article. You do have a good way with words.
 

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I was interviewed today by our Augusta GA CBS Affiliate. They did a "neutral" piece (not a horrible job of it... a little more of neg than pos), and I did my best to inform them and not use the stereotypical "looks just like a cig" e-cig... they only showed 10 seconds of the hour long interview I did with them, but this is the first local piece on e-cigs for our small 500,000 people locale.. and hopefully people were watching.

It aired today at 6:00 PM, and all I'm asking is for you to watch the video, tell me how horribly I did, and then POST COMMENTS and let them know that we are not few, and that stories that give at least positive consideration to e-cigs will get attention....

PureSmoker... I didn't realize they're main pic would be a close up shot of my Protege... but I guess it's free advertisement.....

Thanks!


You did fine. Good job! I've been in a similar situation where I was interviewed and then when it's reported it's not at all what was intended. I didn't get that from your interview, just saying I understand how you feel that things weren't presented like you wanted or thought they would....

Anyway, very good job.
 

epluribus_vapor

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I wrote Dr. Heath today, and asked her just how they chopped up her interview. Watching it again with mindset of "how did they cut my interview up?" and watching the video again, I have to wonder if she wasn't as "negative" as they suggested. She said "We need more research to say 'Yes, these are safer than a cigarette that contains over 4800 known toxins in one cigarette'" I am starting to think she was saying that as a positive thing, not saying that people don't need to use these, but that we are in need of more studies NOW to get some conclusive, published results (besides the joke FDA report)... I found that she is a PhD not MD (on the Medical College of Georgia website ;-) and specializes in tobacco treatment; so I think she would be very interested in seeing e-cigs reviewed more and pushed forward. She also was still talking when they cut her off at "They are dangerous..." I know that the comment about "they aren't recommended for those who want to quit smoking" was VERY likely misleading work of the reporter. I was pushed no less than 10 times with the "Yes... but would you say... ok, let's try again, HOW would you say someone would use these to quit smoking???" Which I didn't budge to, because I stressed REPEATEDLY that these aren't made a "quit smoking device".... just my thoughts on it... I will post if the Dr. responds on what she really said versus what was put into 5 second sound bytes.
 

cyberwolf

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Good job on camera! At least one of your rebuttals to the stupid "kids" argument didn't get cut. I posted a reply with a couple of links to safety studies and also let them kow they could find kits for $29.95 on the first page of a google search! It really doesn't take that much time to do some accurate reporting...
 
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