or "How to Quit Smoking".
With the idea of WTA rattling around the forum the last few weeks some very good ideas came up that perhaps have gotten buried in that long and fruitful thread. If you haven't read the thread it has gotten very long, but worth the read.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nicotine/44958-so-we-getting-we-not-nicotine.html
It appears PV's have a failure rate of about 25% according to DVap , and perhaps another 25% that struggle to quit smoking (correct me if this is wrong please). It would be a good guess that for those that are struggling the long time failure rate will be on the high side. It's a good bet that a WTA based liquid would have a much higher success rate, but at the moment there is no WTA extract products on the market (and we don't know if there ever will be).
So what to do until we can get some. Perhaps a more pragmatic approach to quitting smoking using all the reduced harm products as needed would have a much higher success rate. The idea has been bantered about a good deal on the forum but now there is some sound science backing up the idea.
The quadrant idea that DVap came up with would be an excellent starting point.
Don't quite know where this thread is going but I thought it might be a good idea to split off from the "Are we getting it thread" to explore ideas of what we can do in the here and now with the information we have. Perhaps a list of common problems that indicates that the purified type nicotine isn't working.
A few things I have observed that you may be missing the full range of alkaloids
Panic attacks
Higher then normal anxiety
Cognitive issues (a long list)
No doubt there are others. Perhaps with the new information on whole tobacco alkaloids we can put together a more effective way for people to quit smoking, and especially those for whom e-cig are not the whole answer.
With the idea of WTA rattling around the forum the last few weeks some very good ideas came up that perhaps have gotten buried in that long and fruitful thread. If you haven't read the thread it has gotten very long, but worth the read.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nicotine/44958-so-we-getting-we-not-nicotine.html
It appears PV's have a failure rate of about 25% according to DVap , and perhaps another 25% that struggle to quit smoking (correct me if this is wrong please). It would be a good guess that for those that are struggling the long time failure rate will be on the high side. It's a good bet that a WTA based liquid would have a much higher success rate, but at the moment there is no WTA extract products on the market (and we don't know if there ever will be).
So what to do until we can get some. Perhaps a more pragmatic approach to quitting smoking using all the reduced harm products as needed would have a much higher success rate. The idea has been bantered about a good deal on the forum but now there is some sound science backing up the idea.
The quadrant idea that DVap came up with would be an excellent starting point.
Don't quite know where this thread is going but I thought it might be a good idea to split off from the "Are we getting it thread" to explore ideas of what we can do in the here and now with the information we have. Perhaps a list of common problems that indicates that the purified type nicotine isn't working.
A few things I have observed that you may be missing the full range of alkaloids
Panic attacks
Higher then normal anxiety
Cognitive issues (a long list)
No doubt there are others. Perhaps with the new information on whole tobacco alkaloids we can put together a more effective way for people to quit smoking, and especially those for whom e-cig are not the whole answer.
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