Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!

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As for dripping - I'll say that no Genesis atomizer or silica rebuildable has tasted quite like a direct dripped atomizer, for me. Not saying it's "better", but I get a different taste, and the vapor "feels" different out of a 510 or 901 atomizer. My favorite e-liquid tastes the best to me out of a high-quality dripping atomizer, versus silica or genesis. I believe it's a combination of the way the coils are wrapped, plus the wicking material, and the airflow.

Some people have qualms about spending 20-25$ on an HH357, and I get that, but there are other alternatives that are almost as good. A plain cisco 510 bridgeless atomizer is almost as good as an HH357, in my opinion.

On top of that, I don't get the whole disposable argument either - people spend tons of money on "disposable" e-liquid, flavor of the month rebuildables, premium drip tips for 30-50$, an ever revolving door of latest and greatest PV's, but somehow $20-25 isn't a well spent investment for 2-3 months? You can easily spend that much on a movie, or a crappy meal at a fast food place for 2 people. It's really not outrageous, in my opinion.


If you haven't tried anything as good as a dripper, then you aren't setting the kayfun up right.

Very easy to say that 20 bucks for a 3 month period is to much. I am a number person though. If I weren't I would still be buying juice at 10 to 15 bucks for a 30ml. I went into diy because of the numbers. That is also where I save my biggest amount of money. I spend maybe 5 bucks for 120ml making my own juice.

Last night I mixed a batch of 0mg. I am very close to being done with nicotine, very close. I can't sell a used hh357, but I can sell a piece of ss that has been made to become a rebuildable atomizer. It is all about perspective.

I agree with Ana, best 510 atomizer I have ever tried is the lr joyetech 510. Though I do not like the joye 306 atomizers, go figure.
 

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I think all PVs/Mods eventually make it into the classies..

Im shocked , theres an ELA in the classies up for trade complete with a Kayfun 3.1. Its polished with the brass accents. I wonder how long it will be up.

Looks like it came from Cloud 9, I saw a bag in the background.
 

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I too make my own juice (and I too am a numbers person). Unfortunately, none of my DIY is too tasty :( Maybe you can PM me some of your recipes :)

If you haven't tried anything as good as a dripper, then you aren't setting the kayfun up right.

Very easy to say that 20 bucks for a 3 month period is to much. I am a number person though. If I weren't I would still be buying juice at 10 to 15 bucks for a 30ml. I went into diy because of the numbers. That is also where I save my biggest amount of money. I spend maybe 5 bucks for 120ml making my own juice.

Last night I mixed a batch of 0mg. I am very close to being done with nicotine, very close. I can't sell a used hh357, but I can sell a piece of ss that has been made to become a rebuildable atomizer. It is all about perspective.

I agree with Ana, best 510 atomizer I have ever tried is the lr joyetech 510. Though I do not like the joye 306 atomizers, go figure.
 

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I too have gotten into DIY juice. I still have to keep a couple of bought NETs though. BTW, Essential Depot was running a great special on PG and VG. 54.00 for a gallon of each. That should last me quite a while. I have gotten down to 6% nic since getting the ELA. It hits harder and I also upped my wattage at bit too, so NIC gets stronger now.

I keep my DIY to very simple 1 or 2 flavours so it keeps it simple for me. My fav is a peppermint similar to ALtoids.

http://www.essentialdepot.com/servlet/the-218/1-Gallon-Veg-Glycerin/Detail
 

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Hehe, well I was talking "in general" not about me. I have a very difficult time parting with my PVs. I have traded just a few for a PV that I wanted pretty bad (and eventually purchased a replacement from the builder) but have yet to put anything in the classies. However, I am now beginning to think I'm just "hoarding" nice PVs and should most likely let others experience them rather than just leave them idle. When the PVs/Mods begin approaching around 40 or so it may be time to realize that I have an "addiction" :)

Even your ELA? Say it isnt so:) I think ELA needs to stay in that little black bag forever. Like Felix and his bag o tricks.
 

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I too have a hard time letting go of things. Ive parted with a few items I regret now. Im trying not to hoard. So far I have the ELA and the Saber TOuch. I have a Natural, which is a nice little PV but my son "borrowed" it and I rarely see it. I gave away my other Saber when I got ELA.

I was naughty and have another ELA in Satin coming someday. I really like black PVs and they are hard to come by. I ordered a cheap GG clone last night, I hope to sand it down and make it black.
 

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That's not a great deal... Bulk Apothecary sells gallon bottles for less than $20 each.

http://www.bulkapothecary.com/raw-ingredients/other-ingredients-and-chemicals/glycerin/ $13.95/gallon
http://www.bulkapothecary.com/raw-ingredients/other-ingredients-and-chemicals/propylene-glycol/ $19.95/gallon

EDIT: Also, 6% nic would probably kill you haha! If you meant 6mg, that's 0.6% by volume :)

I too have gotten into DIY juice. I still have to keep a couple of bought NETs though. BTW, Essential Depot was running a great special on PG and VG. 54.00 for a gallon of each. That should last me quite a while. I have gotten down to 6% nic since getting the ELA. It hits harder and I also upped my wattage at bit too, so NIC gets stronger now.

I keep my DIY to very simple 1 or 2 flavours so it keeps it simple for me. My fav is a peppermint similar to ALtoids.

http://www.essentialdepot.com/servlet/the-218/1-Gallon-Veg-Glycerin/Detail
 
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That's not a great deal... Bulk Apothecary sells gallon bottles for less than $20 each.

Bulk Vegetable Glycerin | Bulk Apothecary $13.95/gallon
Wholesale Propylene Glycol in Bulk...Cheapest USP Propylene Glycol Online $19.95/gallon

EDIT: Also, 6% nic would probably kill you haha! If you meant 6mg, that's 0.6% by volume :)

NOW you tell us:) that is a great deal. I got the large sizes because Im making alot of juice for friends lately and my son too. I plan on keeping them in the fridge.
 

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Oh my , I want that drum of VG !!!!!!!!!

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If you haven't tried anything as good as a dripper, then you aren't setting the kayfun up right.

It's set up fine, I think, but the overall vaping experience isn't the same as dripping into a good quality 510 atomizer. Not saying it's better or worse, because that's entirely subjective. Just saying it's different. In this case, for me, I still really enjoy the 510 atomizer with my favorite juice. I'm really liking the Kayfun, and it's the best rebuildable I've tried so far - and it's nice to have the convenience of the tank option, particularly on work days. I've been taking my Kayfun to work or on car trips, but I still drip at home, usually.

And honestly, I agree about numbers and budgets, etc. But, $20 every 3 months - is about 20 cents a day. And I'm willing to spend that to enjoy vaping on an HH 357.
 

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It's set up fine, I think, but the overall vaping experience isn't the same as dripping into a good quality 510 atomizer. Not saying it's better or worse, because that's entirely subjective. Just saying it's different. In this case, for me, I still really enjoy the 510 atomizer with my favorite juice. I'm really liking the Kayfun, and it's the best rebuildable I've tried so far - and it's nice to have the convenience of the tank option, particularly on work days. I've been taking my Kayfun to work or on car trips, but I still drip at home, usually.

And honestly, I agree about numbers and budgets, etc. But, $20 every 3 months - is about 20 cents a day. And I'm willing to spend that to enjoy vaping on an HH 357.

Glad to see someone knows what time it is.....................:toast:HH357 power/flavor in a small package:)
 
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I too make my own juice (and I too am a numbers person). Unfortunately, none of my DIY is too tasty :( Maybe you can PM me some of your recipes :)

I only have one recipe, been using the same one every day for over the last two years. I have mixed a lot of recipes, but I always go back to the same one.

My advice to you, less is more. You can always add more flavoring, but it isn't as easy to subtract it. :)
 

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I was way ahead of the pack on my first ELA, and for the second im probably making a very late show.

Its a very bad addiction, but seems like Im pretty much set for life. Now I just have to stay away from the classified and stop looking at the "pictures of your setup thread"

sure.............................
 

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I was way ahead of the pack on my first ELA, and for the second im probably making a very late show.

Its a very bad addiction, but seems like Im pretty much set for life. Now I just have to stay away from the classified and stop looking at the "pictures of your setup thread"

sure.............................

That thread is so addicting. I have to look at it daily.
 
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