Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!
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They are up on mod Trader from time to time, but can you explain what makes them so great compaired to other genesis designs ? I know i've got to be missing something, but I've seen the internals and can't figure out what makes it so great.
You're not missing anything. Personal preference for me with quality of materials, basic design and appearance. I think the milled out wick section is pretty trick and I like the idea of running a 'U' wick if I want, maybe even try dual-coil someday. It was said earlier, as far as function goes, with these devices probably no better at vaping than many, it all comes down to a good coil and wick. I just think the Foggatti is a great fit with the ELA, stunning. There are others in the running for me, I'm not 100% committed to the Foggatti but that is my preference at the moment. Others that are also good candidates (for me) are the new AC9 when it comes out, but that is a Aug/Sept launch. I'm also interested in the new atomizer from rocketsciencemods who did the doodlebug, Sept launch also. The Kayfun 3.1 & Lite, although a very popular RBA with the ELA, and I agree it looks top notch w/ELA, can't quite get my head around it yet. Seems overly complex for the vaping function. You ask a good question though, and I would pose the same question for the Kayfun fans - just what does make them so great compared to other designs?
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Complex?
It's easier to set up than a genesis. Ease of setup combined with the "chimney" makes for a great vape, a small evaporation chamber makes for a more intense flavour. Common for many of the best regarded hi-end atties are reduced chambers, like F22, Doodlebug, Hellfire and others... Complex?
Agree! I have a Z Atty Pro (genesis) and I absolutely hate it! Never again will I purchase a Genesis atty. It leaks like a sieve and it does not wick very well at all. I tried SS mesh and ceramic wicks on it and while the ceramic wicks better they are very, very fragile.. It can't be laid on it's side and the top cap gets a lot of condensation in it when vaping..
Never again!
Thanks for the honest reply With the Kayfun it's got the same concept as a Oddy, but without the hassle of NR to Resistance wire joining, and alot less fiddly in my opinion. Also doesn't leak when left on it's side although I never leave my devices on their side because of my long time genesis use/conditioning lol. The main reason why I asked is actually due to the deck milling... I though it might be that one lil tweak that changes something. I do have to admit with RBA/RDA's lil things like that do make a difference sometimes.
With the Kayfun it's got the same concept as a Oddy, but without the hassle of NR to Resistance wire joining, and alot less fiddly in my opinion. Also doesn't leak when left on it's side although I never leave my devices on their side because of my long time genesis use/conditioning lol. The main reason why I asked is actually due to the deck milling... I though it might be that one lil tweak that changes something. I do have to admit with RBA/RDA's lil things like that do make a difference sometimes.
Complex?
Complex meaning quite a few parts per that design, setup I'm not worried about. You just don't see that in other atty's, chimney or not. I'm all for flavor enhancement however achieved. I've also looked at the manual, the piece part count is impressive! But I would be interested in knowing what kind of stainless is used throughout, would you know?
You should check out an GG Ithaka, then we are talking parts count!
The only parts you deal with are the top cap and chimney most of the time, so it's not as bad as when you look at it blown up.
No idea about the steel.Stainless steel is all the manual says, but that's good enough for me.
I ordered this one: Oddy's Housing :: Medium Clear Housing -
The Kayfun is nice with a large clear tank too.
Is it just me or do the full clear tanks for the Ithaka/Kayfun look a little wider than the rest of body? Maybe its just an illusion? If it is indeed wider, I'm pretty sure my OCD wouldn't allow me to use it for very long. I am interested in getting one for my KFL though.
Looks wider to my eye as well and I agree, my OCD would not allow it's use either.. LOL
They are wider and as Blix mentioned go perfect with the ELA. My OCD kicked in as well so I moved over the chubby klite to the ELA.
Indeed dear P. I love the "off" look of it compared to all the sleek tubes. And of course the build quality is just off the charts.
Now I really hope David can transfer some of that magic over to a new line of P+, while my P+ is awesome, it's not up to Davids inhouse CNC build, and the lack of a adjustable center pin is annoying now I'm spoiled with the ELA...
I just measured both KF and Ithaka clears. The KF clear tank is 23mm, which means that it is 1mm wider (0.5mm on each side). It is pretty noticeable, and that's why I am reserving it as a backup. Part of the reason why it is wider is because the walls are thicker; they retained the ID so the only way to thicken the walls was to increase the OD.
The Ithaka clear tank (from Rampage) is marginally wider. It measured in at 0.01" wider than the top/bottom caps (0.005" on each side), which means that it is nearly identical in diameter to the stock tanks. The Kir Fanis tanks were significantly wider, but I can't measure those since I gave them to a friend when I donated my last Ody to him. The rampage clears also had thicker walls, but they did it by reducing the ID. Another difference between the rampage and Kir clears is that rampage was transparent while Kir's were more frosted.
Hope that helps!
Gotta tell you a little story.
Last week I was cruising the Super-T website and found that there was ONE P+10440 left. For ever and ever. We've all witnessed Riverboat hemming and hawing around for MONTHS now whether to get one or not, blah blah blah. Decisive me said "Enough of this BS, it's do or die" so I snatched it in the hopes that he'd want it, snoozing and losing wasn't an option. Thankfully he wants it and I don't have to be "stuck" with three 10440s.
The package arrived today. I was going to just slap a new label on it and send it on its way. The package was suspiciously heavy though for a P+10440...
Thank you David from the bottom of my heart!
Last week I was cruising the Super-T website and found that there was ONE P+10440 left. For ever and ever. We've all witnessed Riverboat hemming and hawing around for MONTHS now whether to get one or not, blah blah blah. Decisive me said "Enough of this BS, it's do or die" so I snatched it in the hopes that he'd want it, snoozing and losing wasn't an option. Thankfully he wants it and I don't have to be "stuck" with three 10440s.
The package arrived today. I was going to just slap a new label on it and send it on its way. The package was suspiciously heavy though for a P+10440...
Thank you David from the bottom of my heart!
Good to hear, as the ELA is as wide as it is, the wider tanks will just make them look more balanced on it.
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