Precise ELA Telescoping Mod by Super-T!

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d3mon

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Why ouch? You're paying for the convenience of walking up and buying one rather than having the wait that causes some people angst.

agreed. we've already seen at least one person in this thread that couldn't handle the wait time. Many people (and i'm usually one of them) are willing to pay a markup for the ability to have their purchase in their hands immediately.

take this 65" plasma, for instance:

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It went on sale and both my brother and i bought it. he ordered online and got it 3 weeks later. i spent 80 bucks more and got it that day. worth it imo.
 
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Our retail prices include our importation costs, and our 20% VAT sales tax here. We don't get any of that, we merely collect it for the HMRC.

For customers in the UK, they would pay Super-T's shipping fee of $42.99, plus importation duties, VAT and an import admin fee, if they pre-ordered from David, so it's actually a lot more costly for UK customers to buy direct from Super-T.
If customers outside the UK choose to pay all these costs in order to get one quicker, that is of course their own decision.
 

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50% mark up??? Really??? OUCH

Not really, its misleading. When a European customer orders directly from Super T, the shipping cost is 42.99 via EMS Global express, plus customs duty charges, so it ends up alot more then the 189.99 we charge.
 

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Also, don't forget that the price we paid was an introductory price. Don't freak out when the U.S. cost goes up after batch 2. With all the engineering, time, effort, materials and tool wear that go into building an ELA, I daresay David isn't getting the profit on the first 400 units to be worth his time. I, for one, feel like I've gotten a Black Friday bargain. How much is a GGTS these days, anyway? How much better is the ELA than the GGTS?
 

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Its all relative. The thicker wire has less resistance, and requires higher current to produce heat. The thinner wire has higher resistance, require less current to produce heat. But then we're back to the question of, "Why would I want to do it one way or the other?"

And that answer is simply to appease the experience you are trying to achieve.

While I was perfectly content (and of course quit smoking) with the standard stuff out there, it wasn't until that sub ohm coil, that gave me the most remarkable vaping experience I had ever had. It felt just so close to smoking (which I always enjoyed, of course). Who cares if the atty gets hot? Who cares if it stays cool? What we do care about, is that we get satisfaction from what we're doing.

We've all touted around that; this and that, is subjective. Exactly! So is this!! One way is no better than the other, they have their trade-offs. Its up to YOU to make the call on what's best for you.

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Ok I did an experimant.... ELA with Kick set @ 10 watts... 3.0 ohm coil--4 hits--Atomizer body warn to touch
ELA with Kick set @ 10 watts...0.8 ohm coil--4 hits--Atomizer body hot to touch
The sub ohm atomizer body was much hotter to the touch when running at the same wattage... Plus the 3.0 ohms vapor was smoother and just as dense.....

It might take a few miliseconds longer to heat up buy it does not get as hot....3.0 ohm uses more volts but less amps to produce the same wattage.. Its got to be the high amps that produce more heat.. You know what they say about electricty...Its not the volts that will kill you its the amperage!
David can chime in and clear this up....
 

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Yes, this is true... but only after the atty has heated up. Compare the first hit on both atties, while they're cold. :D

All I can tell you is the 0.8 ohm produces hotter vapor than a 3.0 ohm coil set at the same wattage when fired on a Kicked ELA...
 

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While I was perfectly content (and of course quit smoking) with the standard stuff out there, it wasn't until that sub ohm coil, that gave me the most remarkable vaping experience I had ever had. It felt just so close to smoking (which I always enjoyed, of course).:vapor:

The sub ohm has grown on me........I like it! Thanks Nach:)
 

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hehe I'm actually tempted to buy one of those cisco spec atties for S's & G's. I haven't dripped since 2009 when I first tried vaping.

I wish you would so you can compare it to a RBA 0.8 ohm coil.... HHs take about 2 hours to break in then its Rock and Roll time....
 

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For others that don't have a DNA 20 you can do the same thing with a OHM's law calculator. There is an app for smartphone users or you can find one online. I really think anyone that is rebuilding atties should be using one BEFORE they even fire their atties to make sure everything is in it's right place so to speak ;)
I recently got a dna20 mod, and it's a really good way to help with the volts vs watts vs ohms thing.
With a variable watt device, you slap on your atti, it tells you the res (for ex 2.0ohms) you set the watts at whatever you want (many like 10, I like 12.5) up to 20 watts, and when you fire it up, it tells you how many volts it requires to achieve those watts for that resistance...the thing missing here is the amps which is basically how fast your battery is being depleted.
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