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If you just want to try e-cigs with something that is a reasonable starting point up from buying at wal-mart there are 3 basic choices that I can think of-

1. A 510 start kit E-Cigs and Kits

Shorter battery life, cheaper, versatile connection (510 thread to attach your gear).

2. An eGo starter kit eGo Kits, eGo E-Cigs, eGo E-Cigarettes | MadVapes

Longer battery life, more expensvie, usually includes ego thread AND 510 thread.

3. A smokless image volt kit Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Smokeless Image Electronic Cigarettes - The Future is in your hands

Don't know much about this, I know some people like the x2 volt which is a bigger battery. I believe the thread is 808 which is not as versatile, needs adapters to use 510 or ego accessories.

Juice - TopVapor E-Liquid - E-Liquid Probably want 18mg to start or 24mg if you really need a lot of nicotine.

Figure 3ml/day each person to start. Look at the choices, read the reviews, probably get several different small bottles unless you feel you really will like a flavor.

I really wish I could help more. I wrote about 4 different comments but they got so complicated that I figure you are better off looking at these 3 in kit form and investigate further on your own.
 

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Yes parts i pointed you to would be the safest place for you to begin. Very minimal initial investment. They are adjustable so that you can find that right heat/ hit for your personal tastes, they are backed by my long time favorite vendor who has the best service of any vendor I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. These are generally what most vapers step up to in the eventuality that their small cig-sized units just dont cut it anymore.
 

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Hi Again Era. Start Here. New User Electronic Cigarette FAQ - ECF InfoZone .

Do you think that a device roughly the size of a sharpie marker would be too big for you to get yourself accustomed to using?

I prefer to point new user to the eGo class of batteries, something like this would be a reasonable beginning to vaping with a small scale investment GP eCo-C CE4 MINI TWIST Kit This is an off brand unit and you should have one for you, one for her, and preferably one each for backup vaping(like while the first is charging)... then jump in with some liquid like 24mg PG Liquid 10ml bottle - DeKang ..... The names most often associated with the flavors you and she are accustomed to would be (for you) Usa Mix or Hilton or DK tab and (for her) Menthol, Nport there are literally thousands more, and these are not the only ones but a good place to get your foot in the door and get yourself started in this vaping journey you have decided to embark upon. I do advise you to get a few small bottles and sample them to see which ones strike your fancy before ordering mass quantities of any one liquid. And also it would be a good choice to get a few different (mg)strengths so that you can see which ones are best suited to your personal needs.
Keep in mind that This Is NOT going to be something that is just like smoking It replicates the activities and the enjoyment of the act for most. The hand-to-mouth fixation, the act of sitting back to relax and exhale a big "puff"...... The flavors (of tobaccos especially) are more like the smell of that freshly opened bag of tobacco than the actual burning tube of paper and plant. There is a learning curve here and you will want to have every piece of information you can wrap you brain around.. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.

Good guidelines above.

I've been vaping for six weeks and upgraded twice already. The reccomendations above will give you a good"taste" for vaping to see if you like it. Inevitably, you will upgrade as you learn your preferences and read the forums :)
 

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...then jump in with some liquid like 24mg PG Liquid 10ml bottle - DeKang ..... The names most often associated with the flavors you and she are accustomed to would be (for you) Usa Mix or Hilton or DK tab and (for her) Menthol, Nport there are literally thousands more, and these are not the only ones but a good place to get your foot in the door and get yourself started in this vaping journey you have decided to embark upon. I do advise you to get a few small bottles and sample them to see which ones strike your fancy before ordering mass quantities of any one liquid. And also it would be a good choice to get a few different (mg)strengths so that you can see which ones are best suited to your personal needs.....

You might consider non-tobacco flavors - I know when I started the tobacco flavors just weren't what I was used to so I just didn't like them. Flavors like kona creme, vanilla, etc, may be enjoyable while at the same time wiping out the comparison to your favorite tobacco flavor.

After using other flavors, you may be able to appreciate the various tobacco flavors without the influence of "doesn't taste like my tobacco" hitting you on the head.
 

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Hi Lw, First hand Info.... did you start with a cig-sized unit?

I Did A few years ago

Did You upgrade out of need for more runtime/better flavor/more options/ ability to get better hit?

Me too....

This option takes you right out of the upgrade steps that are almost ineviatable with a small cig-sized units... and jumps right into the good stuff.....
 
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You might consider non-tobacco flavors - I know when I started the tobacco flavors just weren't what I was used to so I just didn't like them. Flavors like kona creme, vanilla, etc, may be enjoyable while at the same time wiping out the comparison to your favorite tobacco flavor.

After using other flavors, you may be able to appreciate the various tobacco flavors without the influence of "doesn't taste like my tobacco" hitting you on the head.

Very true, but most everyone that I have spoken to, and myself personally I wanted(or thought I did ) something that was similar to start. I Think there is plenty of time to venture out of the current comfort zone toward the "other" flavors around, but the need for a good Utility Vape is pretty essential to that first bit of success....
 

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Very true, but most everyone that I have spoken to, and myself personally I wanted(or thought I did ) something that was similar to start. I Think there is plenty of time to venture out of the current comfort zone toward the "other" flavors around, but the need for a good Utility Vape is pretty essential to that first bit of success....

"Or thought I did"

Kind of the point. You think you want it to be as close to smoking as possible, so you try only tobacco flavor and hits you like a dead animal in a wall somewhere, and you drop the whole thing or it has hints of tobacco but the taste is off and you don't like it so you give up.

For me, kona creme and candy cane were enjoyable from day one, whereas if I only tried tobacco, I probably wouldn't have been successful from day one like I was.

Now I really don't care for candy cane, but still enjoy kona creme but only mixed with a tobacco flavor.

Everyone is different though, so you never know.

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So this is a good starter and back up if i get serious in to it later? I just dont want to get a starter kit then 2 weeks later im upgrading to what i should of started with.

The twist is a good, solid intermediate user PV, and many people don't feel the need to upgrade.

However, I think most people that, as you put it, "get serious" end up upgrading to a Variable Voltage replaceable battery mod at some point. Honestly, I think in the long run it is cheaper to get a Chrome Lavatube (or something along those lines) and some batteries for it than getting the Twist or spinner because they last longer and the batteries are cheap instead of having to buy a whole new unit when one dies (and they will eventually). You also get a much better PV.

The reason that they aren't usually suggested to new peolple is twofold, IMO.

First, they aren't quite as user friendly or intuitive to use. You have buttons and voltage settings to deal with. Nothing that you need to be a rocket scientist to figure out, but it can be intimidating to new people.

Second, and I think more often the case, they are BIG. Not "I need to wear a backpack to haul this around" big, but definitely "this sure isn't anything like a cigarette " big. Many new people want something that looks and feels similar to a regular cigarette, and these just... don't.

I guess where I'm going with this is that the twist and spinner are good units. But if you are really worried about not being in a position to want to upgrade later (and the bigger size isn't an issue) you might be better off (and save some money in the long run) by skipping the intermediate level and jumping ahead to something like the Chrome Lavatube (AKA Lambo 4.0, Torpedo VVV, and about a dozen other names).
 

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Well i just read the flavs and i though i would try a few small bottles 1 reg cig taste then a couple odd flavs. My point mostly was what was stated i dont want to buy something then short time later buy what i should of to get to where i should be to enjoy. Now i guess my next ? i need to buy 2 of them or just 1 and then a backup battery?
 

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I Think two"mini kits" would be your best start, with that you get a second ce4. I think that a spare ce4 would be a good idea on top of that for a total of two batteries, and three ce4, some liquid(and I do agree to venture out of "normal" if you have the courage to do so) Getting two kit will also get you a second (backup) charger so that should something go wrong you are not left with nothing to fall back on.
 

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The twist is a good, solid intermediate user PV, and many people don't feel the need to upgrade.

However, I think most people that, as you put it, "get serious" end up upgrading to a Variable Voltage replaceable battery mod at some point. Honestly, I think in the long run it is cheaper to get a Chrome Lavatube (or something along those lines) and some batteries for it than getting the Twist or spinner because they last longer and the batteries are cheap instead of having to buy a whole new unit when one dies (and they will eventually). You also get a much better PV.

The reason that they aren't usually suggested to new peolple is twofold, IMO.

First, they aren't quite as user friendly or intuitive to use. You have buttons and voltage settings to deal with. Nothing that you need to be a rocket scientist to figure out, but it can be intimidating to new people.

Second, and I think more often the case, they are BIG. Not "I need to wear a backpack to haul this around" big, but definitely "this sure isn't anything like a cigarette " big. Many new people want something that looks and feels similar to a regular cigarette, and these just... don't.

I guess where I'm going with this is that the twist and spinner are good units. But if you are really worried about not being in a position to want to upgrade later (and the bigger size isn't an issue) you might be better off (and save some money in the long run) by skipping the intermediate level and jumping ahead to something like the Chrome Lavatube (AKA Lambo 4.0, Torpedo VVV, and about a dozen other names).

I dont mind upgrading later after i figure everything out i just dont want to get something then upgrade and what i use to use is worthless cause it was something i should of never got. I want to atleast start off in the ball park where most everyone is at if you understand.
 

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I agree with the VV coments above, also going back further in the thread, I mentioned if you are out to save money avoid electical complications. While most are probably fine, those vv twists are sometimes unreliable and you get a whole 14 day warranty. I guess if you are buying 4 (2 his 2 her) then you won't have a worry about being without and back on ciggies if one goes bad.

Another concern I have with the kit recommended is that a clearomizer system like that you really can't easily switch flavors. You fill it with a relatively large amount of juice and what if you can't stand the flavor?

For a new ecig user, that is trouble.

Better have a clearo for each flavor I guess?
 
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See, what I meant about probably not going to be cheaper, and danger lies this way............

When I started I thought it would be cheaper, and keep a spread sheet comparing my spending vs. smoking. My break even keeps getting further and further away. At first it was like 15 days. I am about at christmas right now to break even. And that is compared to $5/day vs your $12/carton.
 
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I missed the post by Dauyd, But he makes a solid point. This is about getting you off to a running start. You will almost certainly ,eventually, find the want, or wish to upgrade at a later date. You possibly will not. I know a fellow vaper who still uses her small 510s, and loves loves loves it. I started my nephew with a vtube and he loves, loves loves it. My wife has a few awesome custom built mods and still to this day prefers the twist... This is a journey full of choices, everyone has so many available that any one of them could be perfect, The only ones I am trying to help you avoid is paying too much to get started, and secondly the one that takes you back to regular analog cigs now that you have decided to take the first steps to vaping.
 
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