Problems with 5v and 510 atomizers.

[Loco]

Hi, I'm having several issues related to my Bartleby 5v and 510 atties.

First, when vaping with the mod, the atomizer gets super hot. I keep my carts topped off with fluid and/or direct drip, so I know a dry atty isn't an issue. I have actually flooded the atties a few time by overfilling (which I remedy by blowing them out into a tissue to remove excess liquid). Several atties I have used with this unit have burned out quickly and gone completely cold. I have switched them back and forth between the 5v mod and standard 510 batteries. On the standard batts, the atties barely get warm and produce little vapor. I find myself in both situations having to frequently fill carts or drip in order to continuously vape.

The second issue I have is using carts - the atty gets hot enough on the 5v to melt the cart, even with short presses of the switch. Most of my plastic carts have melted edges.

Lastly, the polyfill plugs I use on my carts never seem to make good contact with the atomizer bridge. I find myself having to frequently open the carts and readjust the polyfill plug in order to deliver sufficient juice to the bridge. After a few drags, I open the cart up to find the polyfill has shrunk back into the cart, thereby not making good contact with the bridge. Am I actually melting (and vaping) polyfill?

 

[Kurt]

It sounds like you need to get some high-voltage 510 attys, which are actually high-resistance. The important quantity is power or wattage, which can be calculated as

P = V^2/R. V = voltage, which we will take as 5V. My normal 510 attys are about 2.5 ohms, but there are some that are as low as 2.2 ohms. With 5V, my attys would have 5^2/2.5 = 10 Watts. With 2.2 ohm attys it would be 11.3 watts. Both are a lot for a normal atty which was not designed to handle that wattage, although they will for a while. Maybe. The heat increase can make for a nice hit, but it will deplete itself of juice fast, possibly faster than the cart filler can wick more juice. Most people just drip at high voltage. Stock poly filler is likely not wicking well enough...it doesn't wick well enough at 3.7V.

I have heard of the following problems with high voltage.

Carts melting.
Filler burning.
Filler mods melting.
Attys burning out fast.
Burned awful tastes.

HV is a new thing, and there are many bugs that still need to be worked out. One possible fix is to reduce the wattage with a high-resistance atty. Nhaler sells them. Those attys are, I think, around 4 ohms, and will not work well at all on a regular batt. You might also try DSE510 attys, which are around 3.0 ohms. Value Vapor sells them for cheap! They may do well for you. It seems they are able to take more of a beating than regular attys, and they cost less than HV attys. On regular 510 batts they are a bit weak, but on 5V they seem to do well, given the comments I've seen.

Another option is to get a 510-to-kr808d-1 adapter, and vape with cartos. to be honest I do not know the long-term success of this, but people do it. Unfortunately HV is a tough one. Good luck!

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Great advice from Kurt!

I am puzzled by your report of little vapor from the standard 510 (i.e., on a 510 battery). No matter what battery I use, the 510 atty produces fantastic vapor. Are you using Joye 510 atomizers. Thomas Jefferson was right about human beings (at least their civil rights, if not their basic abilities), but all 510s are not created equal.

 

[Kurt]

Don's response, which is a really good addition to mine, has actually pointed me to another suggestion about the low-vapor regular 510. Check the resistance of your attys. They may be the 3 ohm type, which do give very little vapor on a regular 510 batt. Sometimes they are flukes in the batch of 2.5 ohm attys, but the DSE510 attys are all around 3.0 ohms, and are generally considered flops on a regular 510 batt, but do quite well on a "true" 3.7V PV, such as those that use the 14500 batt or higher capacity, which are putting a bit more voltage on the coil than a regular 510 batt. People use these when the 2.5 ohm 510 attys (Joye) are actually too strong with these other 3.7V mods.