So when im wrapping coils dont have a problem at all using 24 and 26 guage but 28 and 30 is way to springy for me to work with. I want to use it to try more advanced coils than a standard micro coil. Even with torching it first i cant seem to get a decent coil build with it so what is the trick with using thinner wire.
problems with kanthal wire please help me
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The only things I can think of are that you are not using enough tension or you have too high expectations. 30ga will spring back a bit but I find it easily manageable for a microcoil. It can't be twisted easily without a drill or similar.
Torching wire is a tricky business. You want it to cool down slowly so that it aneals. If it cools quickly then it will temper and be more springy. A light heat applied gently and slowly is the rule. Also try heating it on the former if you find it not behaving itself once you take it off; that will set it in position.
Torching wire is a tricky business. You want it to cool down slowly so that it aneals. If it cools quickly then it will temper and be more springy. A light heat applied gently and slowly is the rule. Also try heating it on the former if you find it not behaving itself once you take it off; that will set it in position.
Another trick you can try is straightening. I haven't used it with 30, but it works great with larger wire, and i can't see that it would be any different. Rip tripper has a good vid on it. Basically you clamp one end of a single strand in your drill, hold the other end with pliers. Twist it for a few seconds, and BEFORE you let go of the pliers, run your finger down the length of the wire. Now you can let go. It's pretty amazing, and I do it with all of my wire before I build with it now.
I have a torch lighter from when i was smoking and i notice it does make a small difference but not enough for it to matter. Ill prob just try and maybe trade the 28 and 30 gauge at my friends shop for more 24 gauge or something
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What exactly is wrong with the coils you make? Are the wraps uneven? Are there spaces between them? Or do you simply find the wire difficult to work with?
Whatever the specific problem is, I would definitely invest (~$10) in a better torch. Here's an excellent one that fills cleanly, has a good range of adjustment, and that you don't have to hold while using it:
http://www.harborfreight.com/butane-micro-torch-60645.html
What exactly is wrong with the coils you make? Are the wraps uneven? Are there spaces between them? Or do you simply find the wire difficult to work with?
Whatever the specific problem is, I would definitely invest (~$10) in a better torch. Here's an excellent one that fills cleanly, has a good range of adjustment, and that you don't have to hold while using it:
http://www.harborfreight.com/butane-micro-torch-60645.html
Torch it or twist it, either works. I even torch my wire when I'm wrapping a tension coil, makes life a lot easier and the added bonus is that you won't ever get hot legs if you torch the wire first (at least with RDAs, Gennies may be a different story...lol).
Never tried the twisting of wire yet. What's the advantage of
twisting wire guys? More vape, longer coil life or what? Thx
twisting wire guys? More vape, longer coil life or what? Thx
The 28 and 30 gauge i have is just to difficult for me to work with. I have no real issues with 24 and 26 guage and the as for torching i do that before i do anything with it. It does make it slightly easier for me but then i have the issue of it separating when tring to wrap coils.
Also on a side note what if i where to braid lets say 3 strands together i think that may make it easier to work with but would that make the resistance be 1/3 of a single strand of the exact same length.
Yes --three strands would be 1/3 of the resistance
I use 28 a lot and I make a fairly tight twist out of two or three strands...and then wrap the coil, torch and it's done.
Once any coil is complete, if you want to compress the wraps tighter, just grip the sides and squeeze together with a pair of needle nose pliers and heat till red hot with a torch...allow a couple seconds to cool and then it will retain it's shape.
I use 28 a lot and I make a fairly tight twist out of two or three strands...and then wrap the coil, torch and it's done.
Once any coil is complete, if you want to compress the wraps tighter, just grip the sides and squeeze together with a pair of needle nose pliers and heat till red hot with a torch...allow a couple seconds to cool and then it will retain it's shape.
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Thanks i guess ill try braiding it then. I can build coils but im not that good at it yet but getting better with time and knowledge.
Never tried the twisting of wire yet. What's the advantage of
twisting wire guys? More vape, longer coil life or what? Thx
The only use I've found for twisting wire, is twisting 2 strands together to get a useable resistance from the stuff I got from the Mesh Co - you have to stretch the twist before releasing the wire from the chuck, or it just springs unwound again.
Stretching a single strand can be used for straightening it - it also very slightly reduces the diameter.
With lighter guage wire I do my best while forming a coil but don't worry if it loosens up. I just tweak them on the RDA. Pulse heat, squeeze, adjust and dip into water once I'm happy.
I use 30 gauge all the time. I torch it with a lighter first, wrap a coil, then mount it on the mod and dry burn it and fine tune it while it's glowing.
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I always just cut my length and slowly run a zippo down the length of it. Heat it til it's red and then start slowly moving down. Made a huge difference. No need for a pricey torch, imo. I've done it with a Bic lighter when I couldn't find my zippo. Lol
For $25 you can't beat this...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Bernzomatic-ST2200T-Butane-Micro-Torch-330194/100564678
I've had mine now for 8 to 10 years and it works as well today as the day I bought it.
Another plus is NO soot on your wire.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Bernzomatic-ST2200T-Butane-Micro-Torch-330194/100564678
I've had mine now for 8 to 10 years and it works as well today as the day I bought it.
Another plus is NO soot on your wire.
What size rod are you wrapping around? I find 32ga needs to be wrapped around 5/64 or smaller other wise it won't hold together. 28 ga does great at 3/32 or 7/64, but gets squirly when going much larger than that.
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