prodigy and atomizers

[Closet Toker]

I was using the 801 atty that came with my Prodigy for a week before it stopped working. I've been using my old RN*** atty that I got from Puresmoker in February since then and it's working like a champ

I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but the one that died was working fine until I dripped JC smoke juice on it. I've been using the JC on a back up of the same atty and it's still alive.

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I have read on Trog's site, the RN4075 is a power monger. They have better tolerance to higher power, Trog recommends them.
The 901 does not take as much power to "ignite", but burns hotter.... thus possibly a shorter life span?

 

[Gibby]

There have been many posts of the Prodigy killing atomizers quickly. It can't all be user error.

I think most of it can be user error.

a few things to minimize your atty risk

1. Don't screw it on too tight. snug it up, you can feel it when it makes contact. When it does STOP, its tight enough at that point. You cannot screw the atty's onto the prodigy like you used to screw it onto your old batteries (meaning it didn't really matter how tight you screwed it on in most cases).

2. It burns juice faster, no more of this 2 drops, and expecting to get 12-14 drags, you might get 6 good drags (and man are they awesome). Any less you are probably running it too dry. This may be exaggerated a bit, but you get what i am trying to say.

3. this thing gets hotter, more power means its gonna heat up faster. You shouldn't, nor should you need to, drag this thing for more than 5 seconds. Any longer, you risk over heating your atty and shortening its life. Let it cool down when you feel it getting hot, or even if you don't feel it getting hot, let it cool for a few after you have been vaping for a while (10 min on, 5 min off, is what i try to stick too).

4. Remember, atty's still aren't going to last forever, one every couple of weeks is all you should expect.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[wv2win]

I think most of it can be user error.

a few things to minimize your atty risk

1. Don't screw it on too tight. snug it up, you can feel it when it makes contact. When it does STOP, its tight enough at that point. You cannot screw the atty's onto the prodigy like you used to screw it onto your old batteries (meaning it didn't really matter how tight you screwed it on in most cases).

2. It burns juice faster, no more of this 2 drops, and expecting to get 12-14 drags, you might get 6 good drags (and man are they awesome). Any less you are probably running it too dry. This may be exaggerated a bit, but you get what i am trying to say.

3. this thing gets hotter, more power means its gonna heat up faster. You shouldn't, nor should you need to, drag this thing for more than 5 seconds. Any longer, you risk over heating your atty and shortening its life. Let it cool down when you feel it getting hot, or even if you don't feel it getting hot, let it cool for a few after you have been vaping for a while (10 min on, 5 min off, is what i try to stick too).

4. Remember, atty's still aren't going to last forever, one every couple of weeks is all you should expect.

Just my 2 cents.

I don't consider any of your points "user error". Since none of those stipulations/restrictions were provided by puresmoker when ordering or receiving the PD then issues like this cannot be blamed on the user if in fact this is what has caused some atty failure. Is having the adapter center post seated too high user error?????

 

[Gibby]

I don't consider any of your points "user error". Since none of those stipulations/restrictions were provided by puresmoker when ordering or receiving the PD then issues like this cannot be blamed on the user if in fact this is what has caused some atty failure. Is having the adapter center post seated too high user error?????

I didn't say they were user error. Whether they are or not depends on to whom you are talking. I stated "some things to minimize your atty risk".

As far as the center post on the adapter being too high, that is obviously not user error. How could it be, the user didn't manufacture the prodigy. Turning your atty too tight, and damaging your atty because of that, may or may not be.

I still think most of the atty issues are maybe not so much user error due to carelessness, but maybe user error due to lack of experience with new equipment.

Me and my buddy both have prodigy's, and if it were up to him, he would have spun his one and only atty to hades and back, if i hadn't stopped him. I happened to have done my homework, and told him to just leave the dang thing like i had it put together, and he has been fine for going on 3 weeks. I actually popped one due to running it too dry, and it was obvious when i did it.

There is always a learning curve when reconfiguring anything to run at higher speeds, higher voltage, less voltage, longer, shorter, more rpm's, less rpm's, or whatever the case may be. It just takes time and a bit of carefulness.

Just my take.

Gibby

 

[Flitzanu]

I don't consider any of your points "user error". Since none of those stipulations/restrictions were provided by puresmoker when ordering or receiving the PD then issues like this cannot be blamed on the user if in fact this is what has caused some atty failure. Is having the adapter center post seated too high user error?????

so, wv2win, you learned all your vaping information from the manuals provided with your ecigs, is that a correct assumption based on your statement?

 

[andel11]

Well I have lost 4 atomizers since getting my prodigy on thursday , I think the rcr123a batteries are the issue as for some reason it does heat up the atomizer much faster , cooking the juice so it really has no flavor and these are only 2-3 drags with time in between to cool the atomizer . I have lost 3 brand new atomizers and one that was 6 months old and was still going strong on my zimoshi magnum. I really hope that the 801 atomizers do better with the rcr batts !!

When I use Cr2 3.0 v batteries it seems to work perfect just like my magnum the atomizers don't get hot quickly and the juice flavor stays intact , I can take 5-8 second drags with no problem .

So my question to Steve is what is going on really with these rcr batteries as compared to the CR2 they are both 3.0 v batteries and for some reason the rcr's really overpower the 901 ??? is this just the wrong battery combo for the 901 , does the 801 perform properly with them ??

I just got my Prodigy today and after 3 puffs on a atomizer that was working fine it blew, put on a brand new one blew after the 1st puff. Tommygun I think I am going to try those CR2 batteries instead, its like money down the drain on these 901 atomizers, and No I am not screwing it on too tight, I am putting in enough jc and not holding it more than 3 seconds and still they blew. I tried the 801 adaptor on the Prodigy and the atomizer and so far, I say so far its working ok. Not happy with 2 blown atomizer under a minute.

 

[Antebellum]

Hi, Andel,

I hope you're having better luck with the 801 atomizers. I'm still using the same pair that I started with on July 1st. I thought I'd use them up before starting to use my PS three-holers, but these generic attys (from rockymountainvapor.com) just keep hanging in there.

 

[blsrx10]

Wow.. i have a Prodigy in my shopping cart ready to order, but wondering if I should wait few more days before pulling the trigger on this one, really would love to try this one.

 

[Fusoya]

Wow.. i have a Prodigy in my shopping cart ready to order, but wondering if I should wait few more days before pulling the trigger on this one, really would love to try this one.

You'll have a little bit of a wait man but I can't imagine vaping on anything else.

It's really beautiful... I haven't smoked a cig in over three weeks. I still have 6 packs of Pall Mall 100s getting stale in my car!

Brandon

 

[redsoxfan]

i got mine on the 24th and i have used 2 already. once because i flooded it and i screwed it too tight and it came apart.so be careful of that.the other one justs died

 

[Antebellum]

i got mine on the 24th and i have used 2 already. once because i flooded it and i screwed it too tight and it came apart.so be careful of that.the other one justs died

Maybe you did not screw it too tight. Did you look in the end to see if there was any adhesive or if the adhesive seemed to "miss" the actual atomizer assembly?

 

[SharonLM]

I've been using my Prodigy now for 19 days. The atty (901) that came with it lasted about 10 days. I wasn't unhappy with that. Since then, in the last nine days I've blown 4 atty's.

Everything!!! is clean, all contacts. I vape for 2 1/2 to 3 seconds, maybe two vapes at a time. Then put it down for at least 2 or 3 minutes, sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes 15 minutes, and so on.

I just blew two atty's in a period of 5 minutes. Not sure what is going on. If my first atty lasted 10 days and I'm still vaping like I always have, why am I suddenly blowing atty's?

I've tried both the 4075 and the 901 and both are about the same. I've blown both in other words.

I have a feeling, (hope) it's the atty's not the Prodigy.

Wish we had concrete answers here.

 

[gjrhine]

I just blew two atty's in a period of 5 minutes. Not sure what is going on. If my first atty lasted 10 days and I'm still vaping like I always have, why am I suddenly blowing atty's?

Here you go.

 

[SharonLM]

Here you go.

Thanks Gary. I have to agree with Steve. I may have done something wrong, won't be the first time, but I've seen this happen before, with the Screwdriver. Because I follow protocol to the letter as much as I can I truly believe it's faulty atty's coming from the manufacturer. That and of course user error. No matter how hard I try, I'm sure there's times I either flood the atty making it work that much harder to heat, or use it dry, although from the taste alone I don't think so. Maybe.

I do not really think it's the Prodigy. I love this thing. So, I'll either blame the atty manufacturer or myself, I'm OK with that.

 

[Bubba Gump]

I am also having this same problem. I dont think that it is because of user error, nor do i blame it on the prodigy or the atomizer manufacturer. I am convinced that 5v are just too much for the atomizers to handle. They are not built to handle these kind of loads. I will be switching to the 3.7v setup until someone builds an atomizer that is specifically made for 5v.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Has anyone been blowing 510 atomizers? I've been abusing the crap out of mine on the Prodigy and I haven't blown a single one.

 

[j4g3rb0mb3d]

No blown 510 atomizers for me on my PT. They seem to step up to the challenge really well. I've even been using my PT to clean out old atomizers with Hydrogen Peroxide. Superheated Hydrogen Peroxide works really, really good, BTW.

 

[Walrus]

I know it sounds repetitious, but I believe a lot of it is adjusting to the 5v. I know it was for me at first. I blew several attys as I was vaping like I would on 3.7v. I've found that you really shouldn't exceed a 2-3 (3 is pushing it) burst on a 901 atty, and you have to let it cool often. It's more forgiving on an 801. 5-6 seconds tops, and let it cool when it gets hot. Or before it gets hot. Since adapting my style, I haven't blown a single atty. Been on the same 801 for 3 weeks. Since I got the 5v switch (was using the 'original') I've pretty much stuck with the 801, keeping my 901's for 'emergency' use.

For what it's worth.


[edit] oh yeah... drip more. I used to put 3-4 drops in my 801 attys. Now I put 7-8.

 

[Sar]

Has anyone been blowing 510 atomizers? I've been abusing the crap out of mine on the Prodigy and I haven't blown a single one.

I was about to ask the same thing. My 510 atomizer died after a month of heavy use, which is the longest that I had 510 atomizer ever last.

 

[Walrus]

I really want to try it with a 510, but I don't own one. I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 801's and 20 901's... well maybe 15 901's since I had to learn to use them properly. Not sure I want to have another type of atty to stockpile A friend said they were going to send me a 510 kit to try... I'm almost hoping I don't like it. I hesitated to say "Yeah, send it to me" but I'm a ...... What can I say?