Proper setup for Nic Salts.

[Steve W Pedersen]

Hi folks,
I am comming from this situation I have never been a smoker but for several years have been a heavy snuser, I use 5 pouches of the camel frost at a time and I am trying to stop buying the cammel snuse entirely buying 3 cans of snuse at 6-7 bux a pop per day is just nuts expencive.

So what have I done,
purchased a smok majasty box mod and have been wasting a lot of money on weak ejuice that just was not cutting it.
I have found nic salt juice and that stuff is hitting the sweet spot.
the tank I have is somthing baby somthing My old eyes cant read the text that small.
currently I am vapeing at 17 watts. any higher the vapor gets so hot I cant inhale it.
my plans
Buy a griffon 25 plus RTA.
i need to find somone to build me some hi resistance stainless steel coils 1.10- 1.50 ohms so I can use the temp control featurs of my box mod.
i would appreciate it for any recomendations where I can buy some or have made some coils for me.
Thank you.

 

[Letitia]

Hi folks,
I am comming from this situation I have never been a smoker but for several years have been a heavy snuser, I use 5 pouches of the camel frost at a time and I am trying to stop buying the cammel snuse entirely buying 3 cans of snuse at 6-7 bux a pop per day is just nuts expencive.

So what have I done,
purchased a smok majasty box mod and have been wasting a lot of money on weak ejuice that just was not cutting it.
I have found nic salt juice and that stuff is hitting the sweet spot.
the tank I have is somthing baby somthing My old eyes cant read the text that small.
currently I am vapeing at 17 watts. any higher the vapor gets so hot I cant inhale it.
my plans
Buy a griffon 25 plus RTA.
i need to find somone to build me some hi resistance stainless steel coils 1.10- 1.50 ohms so I can use the temp control featurs of my box mod.
i would appreciate it for any recomendations where I can buy some or have made some coils for me.
Thank you.

Advanced Vape Supply, AVS, has pre-built coils. Order 316 ss 26g, 8 wraps, 3mm, 10 pack. Those will bring you in at about 1.3Ω. Use coupon code AVS for 20% off. I have been using their products for over a year and recommend them often.

 

[stols001]

Fasttech is probably the best company for buying premade coils if cost is a concern. They also have a dizzying array of choices, but otherwise, I'd say coils last long enough that going for the "very cheapest" may not be the easiest route, and you're more likely to get a sense of what you will receive (for example, I once bought a box of "various" resistance SS coils from FT, they all arrived looking identical and mixed together.... The way they changed the resistances was by using a different gauge of wire. I am planning to use my magnification spectacles and a jewler's scale to try and figure out what is what, but I am not looking forward to it.

A long way of saying Letitia has a good recommendation above If you get into more exotic coils there are builders who will hand build them for you, often to be found on the bay.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[Steve W Pedersen]

Thank you folks vary much I just got done ordering some coils and a set of ceramic tweasers. I would appreciate another recomendation for the wicking cotten so many choices.

 

[stols001]

I use 100% rayon, purchased from Sally's (Graham's cellucotton 100% rayon is the brand, can also be ordered from Amazon). Just make sure you are buying 100% rayon version.

I tried cotton bacon, and someone sent me some rayon to try and I was instantly converted. Not only does it last better than cotton, I prefer the taste, and it lasts (comparatively) forever, compared to cotton. Not everyone loves it, but I do. It plays to my strengths (overwicking, but rayon shrinks a bit when wet, my understanding is that cotton can swell). It stopped my RTA leaks instantly. There is a big, long thread on rayon somewhere which can help get you off the ground (you don't have to read the entire thread, but they sorted out all my wicking problems in like, 2 posts).

If you are concerned about the fact that it is "synthetic," well it is synthetic in the sense that it is "manufactured" from cotton and synthetic only because it is made from cotton, much as wood-pulp is used to make paper. If the manufacturing process is clean, there isn't anything to worry about. Many folks use Sally brand rayon in their wicks, and even a small box will last a long time.

I didn't use cotton for long enough to really give a recommendation, so this is what I got: rayon.

Anna

 

[Letitia]

I primarily use Koh Gen Do cotton pads ordered from Amazon. Probably the easiest wick to work with and performs well.

 

[Scy123]

What mg nic are you using? The griffon 25 plus RTA might be too much for a high nic salt setup. I just tried vaping 40mg nic salts and the smallest drag sends me flying. I have decent tolerance too, I chain vape 6mg @100w and it does not send me flying like this.

 

[Steve W Pedersen]

The bottle on it says .5% I don't know what that means as a milligram amount however I have to take 5 to 8 good pulls to get my brain into its happy place. The Griffin tank can be operated in single coil mode which is how I intend to set it up. I wanted the Griffin tank because of this versatility later down the road I may want to try operating it in duel coil mode.

 

[Beamslider]

.5% would be be 5 mg. Read carefully though as 5% would be 50 mg

 

[Beamslider]

You can use Nic Salt in any set up you want to use it as long as you tailor the amount of nicotine to the device. I use Nic Salt at 3 mg in subtanks and while it hits a little better than freebase nic, it is perfectly fine for me.

 

[Steve W Pedersen]

I went and REE read the label on my little bottle and it says 5 percent not point five percent

 

[Steve W Pedersen]

I have a severe nicotine addiction my goal is to reach parity to my Snus servings and eventually wean myself off this High nicotine habit

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I have a severe nicotine addiction my goal is to reach parity to my Snus servings and eventually wean myself off this High nicotine habit

Welcome to ecf.
Yes, the 5% would be read here at 50mg/ml. And using a sub ohm d2l type of hit would seriously blow most of us skyhigh. Hell, I get skyhigh @ 6mg nic salts when using sub ohm.
I see you have received some good information from the other posters sothe only other thing I would add(especially when using nic salts and vaping in general) is to up your liquid intake...Drink a whole lot more when vaping than you normally would. Vaping in itself, even with freebase nic tends to dry out our nose, mouth and throat and nic salts is even worse. Most of the nic is absorbed through the mouth and throat anyway. When I use nic salts I really have to drink loads more liquids and if I don't I can tell the dryness starting. Pls don't ignore as dehydration is serious if you tend to dismiss the symptoms.

 

[mcclintock]

Why do you think you need 1-1.5 ohm coils? The ones Letitia linked are over twice the size of the .7 I use, good for 25-30 watts each. With a modern mod, the resistance itself doesn't particularly matter, what matters is how big is the coil (mainly its surface area). And if you did care about the actual resistance because you were using "mech" mod those coils would work poorly as well, just because they're from a company doesn't mean they were designed or tweaked for anything like that, and those aren't even close (they want about 6 volts).

 

[Letitia]

He isn't using a mech. For mtl the resistance he's looking for is reasonable.

 

[Opinionated]

I have a severe nicotine addiction my goal is to reach parity to my Snus servings and eventually wean myself off this High nicotine habit

On that tank your going to need 6mg (9mg would likely be maximum)...

Try 6mg and see how that does with the new atty. What your vaping now is way too high for that atty

 

[Letitia]

On that tank your going to need 6mg (9mg would be maximum)...

Try 6mg and see how that does with the new atty. What your vaping now is way too high for that atty

When starting out my nic with dtl had to stay high for awhile as well. Went from 18mg to 12mg and stayed there comfortably for months. Nudged down to 9mg and stayed there for months too. Just stepped down to 8mg. Some of us do well with higher mg and keeps the cravings at bay.

 

[mcclintock]

"currently I am vapeing at 17 watts. any higher the vapor gets so hot I cant inhale it." -- what is probably happening is at that power the coil takes too long to heat up and just heats up everything instead of just instantly producing vapor. Try closer to its recommended settings, IF everything is working right you should be able to take a short hard open hit with less heating, or if that sounds terrible anyway that's the issue it's a higher power device.

He isn't using a mech. For mtl the resistance he's looking for is reasonable.

"Mass is not Weight" was as saying my high school physics teacher repeated over and over. I propose "Resistance is Not Coil Size" ...

That resistance would be reasonable for a mech but he's not using one, that's what I'm saying. Either way, that still leaves the more important subject of coil size and that is resistance is only one parameter of that. A 1.3 ohm Kanthal coil built for mech voltage would be a classic MTL sized coil, but we can build coils with that surface area over a huge range and the exact same coil physically in SS316 would measure about .8 .

 

[Letitia]

"currently I am vapeing at 17 watts. any higher the vapor gets so hot I cant inhale it." -- what is probably happening is at that power the coil takes too long to heat up and just heats up everything instead of just instantly producing vapor. Try closer to its recommended settings, IF everything is working right you should be able to take a short hard open hit with less heating, or if that sounds terrible anyway that's the issue it's a higher power device.



"Mass is not Weight" was as saying my high school physics teacher repeated over and over. I propose "Resistance is Not Coil Size" ...

That resistance would be reasonable for a mech but he's not using one, that's what I'm saying. Either way, that still leaves the more important subject of coil size and that is resistance is only one parameter of that. A 1.3 ohm Kanthal coil built for mech voltage would be a classic MTL sized coil, but we can build coils with that surface area over a huge range and the exact same coil physically in SS316 would measure about .8 .

Yes you are correct. My mistake.

 

[mcclintock]

^^-- That is a decent source for coils though. These options would be close to mine for 14-16W single coil: 10 Pack Regular Coils 316L SS but you might want 3mm for a tank, with fewer wraps.