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I find cotton actually lasts me longer than silica, and when it gets gunked up, it's almost trivial to pull it out, dry-burn the coil, and put some new cotton in it. Cotton is also ubiquitously available and dirt cheap. Lastly, I like the way cotton vapes and tastes. The only downside is that may take a little while to get the hang of how much cotton is the right amount for your particular atty. If in doubt, use less. I've got a bag full of silica and Ekowool that I doubt I'll ever use again.

But yes, you can definitely build a kayfun-type atty with standard silica or Ekowool; I just never have, because I was a cotton convert before I got one. :D

A viable explanation - guess thats why most use cotton.
Flavor is paramount for me.. & ease of availability. I'll give the cotton a go.
.. if i can ever find a R91 to purchase.
 

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I'll be a voice of (slight) dissent here and say that for me the Taifun (clone, I've no experience with legit Taifuns OR Kayfuns/Russians) WAY easier to work with and build on.

Now, it does NOT have adjustable air flow, but that's not a problem for me. It's juuust right for my style of vaping, which is long, slow pulls.
Amusingly enough, I've got a genuine Taifun GT that I bought used in the classies sitting at home in PA that I've never bothered building because I've been so happy with the way the R91 works. One of these days, I will build it, just so I can compare it to the R91 that I've been using as my primary since I got it, and the KFL+ that I just got, which vapes about the same (no big surprise there), as well as the Squape.

I started rebuilding with a Squape, primarily because it was specifically designed to be easy for a beginner to build (and because VapeRev had 'em in stock at the time). Well it IS easy to build, but it's not that easy to make GOOD build for. I got it the day after my Protovapor and it was my primary atty for several weeks. But for me, it wasn't really much better than say, and Aerotank, at least once I learned to rebuild those too. So I picked up the R91, built it, and pretty much immediately decided that I prefer it.

The reality is that different people prefer different atties. I know there are some who prefer Squapes over Kayfuns, and some prefer Taifuns over Kayfuns. However, more seem to prefer the Kayfun type than any other tank-type RBA. Now I'm not one to follow the crowd and I have the means to buy, try, and use anything I want. But right now, if I have to recommend something, I recommend a Kayfun type, because that's what I'm vaping, and that's what most people seem to prefer.
 
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Great breakdown! My issues with the Kayfun/Russian is that (because they're clones, I'm assuming) the juice channels aren't cut deep enough so I have to do HARD primer pulls after every 3-4 puffs. And getting the coil mounted in there is a bit more challenging than the Taifun, I feel. I use pretty much the same build in both; about 5 wraps of 28 gauge kanthal around a 2.4mm bit. Cotton for a wick.

It's finding the exact balance of cotton, how much is on the deck, etc. There's just too many fail points for a doofus like me, heh. :laugh:

I started rebuilding with a Squape, primarily because it was specifically designed to be easy for a beginner to build (and because VapeRev had 'em in stock at the time). Well it IS easy to build, but it's not that easy to make GOOD build for. I got it the day after my Protovapor and it was my primary atty for several weeks. But for me, it wasn't really much better than say, and Aerotank, at least once I learned to rebuild those too. So I picked up the R91, built it, and pretty much immediately decided that I prefer it.

The reality is that different people prefer different atties. I know there are some who prefer Squapes over Kayfuns, and some prefer Taifuns over Kayfuns. However, more seem to prefer the Kayfun type than any other tank-type RBA. Now I'm not one to follow the crowd and I have the means to buy, try, and use anything I want. But right now, if I have to recommend something, I recommend a Kayfun type, because that's what I'm vaping, and that's what most people seem to prefer.
 

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Hi everyone,
I've been vaping on and off since 2009. the most successful period for just vaping was using a dna20 device. I'm looking to find that vape again now that there are a number of more readily available devices using this technology. My preference is a very small box mod but well made and to have no worries about the integrity of the device. The only one I saw that fit that description was the hana,but it is only a 1200 mah internal and is very expensive for what it offers. So,then I began looking and found the xpv. The form factor is not unlike the device I used in the past,the darwin,but what always bothered me about that device was the weight. I would like to get some more concrete info. about the weight if someone would compare it for me to something. I was told it's about 8oz? also, one vid I saw this morning really concerned me in that it was showing the atty or juice well and pointed out how there is a rubber o-ring in it that in time needs to be adjusted or changed,because he says it tears with repeated use,I guess; it was something like that . What really through me for a loop is then he proceeded to show how to change this oring,when it's needed. He then shows how to take off the whole top of the unit and start poking into the backside of the well to loosen it to get the damaged o-ring out. At which point, he keeps repeating how important it is to keep all the wires inside the device so they remain in the same place as before you opened it up. He says this as he's trying to keep the wires down in the unit.
I'm writing because I would like some clarification as to this process. It seems so odd to me that a unit that appears so well built would require this kind of action on the user's part.
Before I write this unit off as a possibility for me to purchase ,I thought I'd ask the question here.
Thanks in advance
 

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I don't have a postal or reloading scale here, but I can tell you this, the XPV feels (and is) lighter than it looks. I've got 3 DNA devices (A VaporShark DNA, the XPV, and a full-size Hana V2), plus some other, lesser PVs. I use the XPV more than any of the others and if I could keep only one, it would be the XPV.

I've had mine for a while now and use it daily and have never had a problem with the 510 connector. I remove and re-install atties several times a day. My guess is that people who have trouble with the 510 connector are just cranking their atties on too tight. I've also had my XPV pretty well disassembled, see pics here and here. The internals are not that delicate.
 

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I don't have a postal or reloading scale here, but I can tell you this, the XPV feels (and is) lighter than it looks. I've got 3 DNA devices (A VaporShark DNA, the XPV, and a full-size Hana V2), plus some other, lesser PVs. I use the XPV more than any of the others and if I could keep only one, it would be the XPV.

I've had mine for a while now and use it daily and have never had a problem with the 510 connector. I remove and re-install atties several times a day. My guess is that people who have trouble with the 510 connector are just cranking their atties on too tight. I've also had my XPV pretty well disassembled, see pics here and here. The internals are not that delicate.

Thanks Ross. I saw that video also and was wondering, but never asked about it.. Glad you like it so much. I am waiting on mine too. Seems like its taking forever to get a notice. I know they are very busy with a lot of orders.. :) Meanwhile just using my Reo and RM2's
 

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Hi everyone,
I've been vaping on and off since 2009. the most successful period for just vaping was using a dna20 device. I'm looking to find that vape again now that there are a number of more readily available devices using this technology. My preference is a very small box mod but well made and to have no worries about the integrity of the device. The only one I saw that fit that description was the hana,but it is only a 1200 mah internal and is very expensive for what it offers. So,then I began looking and found the xpv. The form factor is not unlike the device I used in the past,the darwin,but what always bothered me about that device was the weight. I would like to get some more concrete info. about the weight if someone would compare it for me to something. I was told it's about 8oz? also, one vid I saw this morning really concerned me in that it was showing the atty or juice well and pointed out how there is a rubber o-ring in it that in time needs to be adjusted or changed,because he says it tears with repeated use,I guess; it was something like that . What really through me for a loop is then he proceeded to show how to change this oring,when it's needed. He then shows how to take off the whole top of the unit and start poking into the backside of the well to loosen it to get the damaged o-ring out. At which point, he keeps repeating how important it is to keep all the wires inside the device so they remain in the same place as before you opened it up. He says this as he's trying to keep the wires down in the unit.
I'm writing because I would like some clarification as to this process. It seems so odd to me that a unit that appears so well built would require this kind of action on the user's part.
Before I write this unit off as a possibility for me to purchase ,I thought I'd ask the question here.
Thanks in advance

My full-size XPV with the flush 510 option and the belt clip weighs in at 4.1 ounces. Had mine since November with heavy use and zero problems with the 510 connection (or anything else on the XPV, for that matter).

If you want to go really lightweight, the mini comes in at 3.1 ounces with the belt clip and the ego style connector. Also been problem free (bought it about 2-3 weeks after getting the full size). As you can conclude from my multiple purchases, I'm a very happy Protovapor customer!
 
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