Provape 'boxmod'

[tc1]

Apple in the 90s? They tanked. Took Bill Gates to invest in the company and bringing back Steve Jobs to bring Apple back into relevance.

And yes, people managed to quit using lackluster devices (in comparison to today). There were also plenty of people who went back to smoking. Some ended up finding their way back once the tech got better, some are still smoking today. Again, different requirements for different people. Just because Group A was able to quit on a KR808 kit doesn't mean Group B is able to do the same.

I've seen this first hand as someone who has helped people off of cigarettes. Some people have stronger urges to smoke and require more nicotine and/or higher delivery rates to keep them off cigs. In fact, a good friend of mine skipped the ego style route and went straight to a MVP 2. It wasn't enough, he required a mechanical with moderate sub-ohm builds in order to feel satisfied and quit. To him, a cigalike would have been a joke. To someone else, it might be all they need.

And yes, I have no doubt Provari will do TC, and as I stated earlier ... perhaps better than anyone else. The question is ... when? And will their other features be more aligned with current market demands? We shall see.

 

[stevegmu]

I actually think ProVape would rather go out of business, than make a 50+watt box mod. I don't see it happening, though, as P3 is the standard bearer for high end APVs.
My guess is ProVape temp control will be released when they release a tank of their own.

I think the problem many have is they sacrifice PG and nicotine levels for clouds, which is why they aren't satisfied and keep chasing more power...

 

[Mtek]

As I said, we could go on ad naseum about what companies have failed at, not the point at all. Every example you have, I could counter it and vise versa.

Quality, brand recognition, customer service, etc will never fail. Period.

Im not looking down on anyone's devise, but who will ever be pationate about an istick, cloupor, etc? Those are devises that do a job very well at a reasonable cost, the market is flooded with them for a reason. Provape is a devise that will stand the test of time though, all ready been established and proven. If one needs inexpensive, 30+ watts, and a plastic box, Provape will never be for you.

Someone mention PBusardio in this thread. I watched his P3 vid before I bought one. Reason I chose the P3 is in that vid he pulled out a hammered Provari V2 he said had been perfect for the last two years for him as he was comparing the size.

 

[tc1]

You never know. So far they've continued advancing the Provari, just about a year and a half later than the rest.

I remember when fanboys were defending VV and LCD screens on the Provari as well. Some of them were the first to praise Provape when it was released that they would be going VW and LED screen.

Those kind of debates are just nonsense to me. Why people can't call a spade a spade is beyond me. I know and accept the flaws, pros, and potential improvements for every single device I own. EVERY device could be better, and those who refuse to see that are just blinded IMHO.

It is my hope that Provape can suit my personal needs in the future without sacrificing their quality and reliability. Right now, they can't. But as soon as they can, it will probably be my main device. Even more so, I hope that they can continue to be a player and innovator in this industry for a long time to come ... regardless if they manage to make a device I want.

I truly respect them as a company and would hate to see them fall by the way side.

 

[WillyZee]

I truly think the amount of vapers who have tried and appreciate how satisfying a Provari is, might be quite small ... on one end you have the cigalike, Ego, MVP, iStick vapers, then you have the Mech mod clone drippers.

Most folks will not justify dropping $250 to buy a Provari-Kayfun and find out what 10 watts can truly do.

That P3 Ti topped with the Kayfun v4 would satisfy practically every smoker who decided to take up vaping ... and that is Provape's market.

 

[stevegmu]

You never know. So far they've continued advancing the Provari, just about a year and a half later than the rest.

I remember when fanboys were defending VV and LCD screens on the Provari as well. Some of them were the first to praise Provape when it was released that they would be going VW and LED screen.

Those kind of debates are just nonsense to me. Why people can't call a spade a spade is beyond me. I know and accept the flaws, pros, and potential improvements for every single device I own. EVERY device could be better, and those who refuse to see that are just blinded IMHO.

It is my hope that Provape can suit my personal needs in the future without sacrificing their quality and reliability. Right now, they can't. But as soon as they can, it will probably be my main device. Even more so, I hope that they can continue to be a player and innovator in this industry for a long time to come ... regardless if they manage to make a device I want.

I truly respect them as a company and would hate to see them fall by the way side.

I'll never need more power than a 2.5 has, so haven't bought a P3 yet. I like the display and don't care for VW. I think most vapers would be satisfied with a 2.5, with the right e-liquid and topper...

More power doesn't mean better in my world...

 

[cowfood]

Welp, I think the P3 was a failure, only because Provari was late to the variable watts game. To this day, I think the v2 and 2.5's are still the way to go with Provari, and only for the durability. They are great for carto tanks and bcc kangers and evods. even some genie builds and kay funs.. but durability and excessive safety are all Provari have for a selling point (and made in the USA).. So, unless I'm crab fishing in the arctic, the price point to usefulness gap is becoming something that cannot sustain their business profile. btw, I use my old v2's daily, and hit my subtanks at night , though it's only because I was in it 3 years ago, and back then, the provari was the witches nipples.

-CF

 

[blacklung]

I'd be in for a provape boxmod..

what's the reason for not wanting provape to develop a "hi wattage"(30/40watt) device?......I don't get it...if provape develops a 40watt device and you are happy at 10watts, don't buy the new one, stick with v2.5 or 3. Others can buy it and provape will gain market share. I don't think it will hurt provape.

I don't see any reason why the provape supporters(iam one myself) would not want provape to come out with a higher wattage box mod to cater to "extreme" vapers.......what do you want them to come out with? (new colors? a box mod with 20w or less? nothing?)...

if they do not want to up the watts, I'd be in for a 20watt & compact 14500 device.

 

[Libbydude]

I'd be in for a provape boxmod..

what's the reason for not wanting provape to develop a "hi wattage"(30/40watt) device?......I don't get it...if provape develops a 40watt device and you are happy at 10watts, don't buy the new one, stick with v2.5 or 3. Others can buy it and provape will gain market share. I don't think it will hurt provape.

I don't see any reason why the provape supporters(iam one myself) would not want provape to come out with a higher wattage box mod to cater to "extreme" vapers.......what do you want them to come out with? (new colors? a box mod with 20w or less? nothing?)...

if they do not want to up the watts, I'd be in for a 20watt & compact 14500 device.

Well said! The only real nay sayers in this thread are ones that believe there is a right way to vape and it happens to be their way. But, those same people are more than likely correct when they say provape isn't going to go that route.

 

[Crunktanium]

High power vapers aren't the norm in the vaping world; just on internet vaping forums...

Must be why many stores can sell out of their 100-150w Sig/IPV mods within days of restocking..

Nobody wants to blow clouds and their aren't enough people with disposable income willing to buy new mods every week. But I know one of my local B&M get like 50 Sig 100w box mods in stock every two weeks and they are sold out within a few days. Vapor Beast has been out of all their high powered mods for I don't know how long. Once they restock everything is sold out once again within a few days too. Another local B&M sells nothing but Ego style and fasttech clone items. Even their Kanger coils are fake and nothing is ever out of stock except a few of the more expensive clone toppers.

 

[stevegmu]

Must be why many stores can sell out of their 100-150w Sig/IPV mods within days of restocking..

Nobody wants to blow clouds and their aren't enough people with disposable income willing to buy new mods every week. But I know one of my local B&M get like 50 Sig 100w box mods in stock every two weeks and they are sold out within a few days. Vapor Beast has been out of all their high powered mods for I don't know how long. Once they restock everything is sold out once again within a few days too. Another local B&M sells nothing but Ego style and fasttech clone items. Even their Kanger coils are fake and nothing is ever out of stock except a few of the more expensive clone toppers.

Those people would never pay $300 for a ProVape box mod...

 

[stevegmu]

I'd be in for a provape boxmod..

what's the reason for not wanting provape to develop a "hi wattage"(30/40watt) device?......I don't get it...if provape develops a 40watt device and you are happy at 10watts, don't buy the new one, stick with v2.5 or 3. Others can buy it and provape will gain market share. I don't think it will hurt provape.

I don't see any reason why the provape supporters(iam one myself) would not want provape to come out with a higher wattage box mod to cater to "extreme" vapers.......what do you want them to come out with? (new colors? a box mod with 20w or less? nothing?)...

if they do not want to up the watts, I'd be in for a 20watt & compact 14500 device.

Did anyone say they don't want ProVape to come out with a high powered box mod? Doesn't make a bit of difference to me if they do, or not, but I'm fairly certain they won't...

I would like them to make a cigalike and tiny tanks, though...

 

[Crunktanium]

Those people would never pay $300 for a ProVape box mod...

Cloud chasers spend more than that on drippers and buy expensive mech mods just for collecting the latest thing.. You don't seem to have a clue what people with lots of disposable income actually want. When you have a high end shop to gather the statistical data let us know what you find. I doubt you will find the average newbie even wants a cigalike with so many better options available today. Many of us used them because it's what was available eons ago. Provari as it is would be best suited for the guys who used to enjoy sucking on fancy pipes. The new generation could care less as they will put a sticker over the Provari name tag and treat it as any other $200+ mod. There are tons of mech's that cost way more than Provari and some unique Steampunk mods that make the Provari look and feel like cheap piece of painted tubing. Price is meaningless as they could sell an 30-80w box mod for $500 and I bet the pre-release batch would be sold out.

 

[stevegmu]

Cloud chasers spend more than that on drippers and buy expensive mech mods just for collecting the latest thing.. You don't seem to have a clue what people with lots of disposable income actually want. When you have a high end shop to gather the statistical data let us know what you find. I doubt you will find the average newbie even wants a cigalike with so many better options available today. Many of us used them because it's what was available eons ago. Provari as it is would be best suited for the guys who used to enjoy sucking on fancy pipes. The new generation could care less as they will put a sticker over the Provari name tag and treat it as any other $200+ mod. There are tons of mech's that cost way more than Provari and some unique Steampunk mods that make the Provari look and feel like cheap piece of painted tubing. Price is meaningless as they could sell an 30-80w box mod for $500 and I bet the pre-release batch would be sold out.

From what I have seen here, 'clones' are king...

 

[graffiti]

You know, the funny thing in this thread is some people are saying "Oh, 50 watt vapers are just here, nobody in the real world uses that stuff. Provari understands this and sells to the masses."

Which is just silly. The vast, vast majority of vapers I've run into are eGo batteries and ce4/evod tanks. People spending more than about $50 on their vape are the exception everywhere but ECF and ECR and other similar websites. Very few people are spending nearly the amount of money that we (including all the people in this thread) spend on vape gear.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Provape is dead to me until they ditch the tube and give me more watts. I'd be content with 40-60.

 

[herb]

It all depends on the market , if Provape is not pulling in good sales figures they will have to do something , not wanting to and needing to our very different things.

To be honest , everywhere i look it seems higher wattage devices rule , the iStick 30 and 50 watt models are sold out most everywhere , even 20 watts isn't selling anywhere close to the higher watt devices.

I prefer to vape lower wattage but i seem to be an outcast with those preferences.

 

[Crunktanium]

Very few people are spending nearly the amount of money that we (including all the people in this thread) spend on vape gear.

Maybe where you live but try Florida, California, New York and places like that. I see people spend 1/4 of every dime they make on vape gear. Most of us were spending $35-100 a week on cigarettes anyway so why not. I don't know a single vapor who is still using an ego except one person who just started vaping 4 days ago. I met so many people vaping who complain complain and complain about the hassle of ego's and crappy tanks. Most everyone I have met who uses an ego either quits vaping within a few weeks or gets a mod be it a VV Twist/Box/Mech/Whatever within a month or two at the most.

I just had a family member text me about poor battery life with her new (possibly a clone) iStick. I got this person vaping a month ago and loaded her down with juice. She vaped for a week then quit vaping thanks to the hassle of ego's of course. Then she called me three weeks later wanting more juice as she started vaping again and now a week later she has moved into her first mod. It's pretty typical here because most of the stores want you to spend more and vape happy. They can sell you a good compact mod for about double the cost of a crappy ego. But if the stores where you live are stuck on the ego train that's a shame really. Many places here don't even carry EVOD or Protank 2's anymore. So you can either spend $30-50 on an up to date tank or go buy another Blu at the gas station. Stores don't want to stock a billion different crappy coil/tank combos anymore and sit on them forever. Not when everyone is moving to rebuildables or dripping and from a store owners perspective it would be foolish to keep old bits around just for people who can't really afford to vape.

 

[martinc]

Unless...the ''we'll never go into boxmods'' rumor is just that,a rumor to fend off spies and clone makers while they develop
a g-sensor,temp controlled VV/VW 200w device out of a block of Ti with touch sensor switch,TV/radio/cell/powerbank/defibrilator for $150

Phallic mods are a thing of the past really...tired of seeing them slooooowly rolllllllliiiiiing off the desktop after giving the false impression that they were motionless