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Just received my Provari.

I've been using a GGTS for the past year and have posted many rave reviews on the GGTS. I would still recommend it but the truth is that the Provari makes it look like a Dinosaur. My GGTS was giving a weaker vape. Could be the leads, could be the batteries are old. Instead of refurbishing it, buying more batteries etc. I decided I'd retire it for a newfangled gadget called the Provari.

I decided on the Provari because of the rave reviews that I've read in the forums. It also intrigued me the ability to change voltages. In addition I was buying aa Bicycle Flashlight and the best choice was to use the 18650 and bought Soshine 3.7 2800 batteries for it, so instead of buying 2 batteries, I bought 4 to cover the Provari. I also am distrustful of the two battery RCR123 that I've been using. Too many reports of explosions. 2800mah is alot of mah too!!

My first surprise was that I got lucky, they said it would take two weeks and it arrived in a few days. I opened my goodie package and this unit was heavy. I was figuring that because it looked so new it would be a modern lightweight flimsy unit. Nope this unit is solid. Maybe if I open it up I'll find lead pellets giving it artificial weight but I don't think so.

I watched the Videos and read the manuals and this unit was a snap to assemble and operate. The threads were just so precise. Everything lined up perfectly.

I started with a 510 Cartomizer. I've smoked 510 regulars before and figured I'd try a cartomizer. I've been using the old fashioned 801 HR Atomizers along with the 801 for years.

I inserted my Soshine 3.7v 2800 mah battery and screwed the cartomizer in. Than I checked the Battery, it came in at 4.0V I figure that when it checks the battery it's testing it under load because the atomizer comes on. So 4.0 under load is probably close to the 4.2 that the battery should be at full charge. It would be interesting to hear the factory's opinion or others opinion on this.

Than I tested the OHM on the 510 atomizer it came in at 2.9 ohm which is darned close to the 3.0 represented on the Provape website where I bought them from. I decided to cut to the chase and dial it at 4.4 that another reviewer said was perfect for this cartomizer.

I wasn't impressed the smoke was harsh. What I later found out is that at least initially you need to let the cartomizer sit for 10 or 20 minutes and soak up the juice. I put the cap back in which has a little plastic needle and blocks the cartomizer hole and filled up and let it sit.

I also found that at least on this cartomizer 4.0 is fine. 4.4 and 4.2 makes it crackle.

Than I figured to have a true test I'd need to use my old setup. So I put my Old 801 Hr Atty from Vapor Kings on and it came in at 4.3 so again the detection is .1 low.This Atty has been used for weeks so that could be the reason.

Anyway I dialed it up to 6 Volts and wetted my cart. Voluminous amounts of vapor with great taste came out. This was true 5V vaping at it's best. Remember my HR Atty is designed to lower the voltage by 1 V.

Than I proceeded to reinstall the 510 Cartomizer after letting it sit for 10 minutes and it gave a nice vape. I'm going to experiment around with the 510 cartomizer maybe in a week when I get accustomed to it, I'll change my tune. Actually I'm starting to enjoy it.

So back to the Provari.

Postives
1. It really does operate at any voltage up to 6v with the proper atomizer on it.
2. It is solid and sturdy
3. It has a resevoir opening under the atomizer that picks up excess juice that leaks out. Nice and clean. No more dripping out on my clothes.
4 With adaptors you can use it with virtually any cartomizer or Atomizer in the Market
5 While I haven't tested the battery life yet. So far with a solid 1/2 hour to 1 hour of vaping behind me it's gone from 4.0V to 3.9. Since the cutoff is at 2.5v I believe I have a long way to go.
6. I've been looking around for a battery tester for 18650 and they are difficult to find. A battery can only be tested under load so a multimeter doesn't work on just a battery you need to hook to the device and the battery. So I saved money on buying a battery tester.
7. Because of the battery an Atomizer testing features. Also the warnings when both are out of tolerance you will know when your batteries or Atomizer goes bad, so this takes out a variable of troubleshooting when the vapor gets thin.
8. The button is so precise and easy to push, while not a click button it comes really close
9. The light going on when the unit fires up is a very nice feature. And the ability to turn off that light is brilliant.
9. It's so fun pushing that button.!!

Negatives,
1. It's pricy
2. Some might consider it heavy. Me I don't mind.
3. Like all Heavy Duty Units it's big. But it seems average in size.


Doubts that were resolved
1. I was worried that it wouldn't work with my SoShine Batteries. Even though they are considered high end batteries and more expensive. It did work with them. 2800mah should go a very long way.
2. I was worried about leakage. The resevoir catches everything.
3. I was worried that with an adaptor it might have problems with a 801 setup. It works fine.
4. I was unconvinced that it would really go all the way to 6v using a 3.7v battery. It does.
5. I thought that pushing the button would be complicated but actually it's the simplest way to control so many features. They make the buttons two spaces apart and begin with 5 clicks so actually there are really only 6 features to find.

Improvements.
I'd like to see that the very first time you change an atomizer that you have to click 2 times to activate it. I would forget when I changed atomizers to change voltage so switching from a Hv to Lv setup you could fry an atty.

Conclusion;
Durability is yet to be seen. How long will the O ring last before leaking. What about the durability of the switch and the complex electronics.

This unit is a dream with the flexibility, the failsafes etc it is light years ahead of any mod on the market (that I've seen). The designer is a genius.
 
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So far vaping pretty heavy for an hour or two last night than some vaping this morning and this afternoon. Yeah I know this isn't exact. According to the Battery tester (#11 presses of the button) I've gone from 4.0 to 3.9. I'm running it on the 510 at 4.0v

Based on this indication it'll be a week or two before I go through one battery. I only vape at night and in the morning. My impression is that the 2800Mah is going to last a long time. But than again until I run the battery out and the unit cuts it off I won't know for sure.

I bought the Soshine because it had a high rating on amazon. Also the charger is a more expensive quick charger that charges at a higher voltage (650mah) and than at the end at 90% charges slower at the end. On a forum they said that this protocol is the best.

I didn't want to go with the AW because the highest with button top was 2200mah and the Soshine is a true 2800mah. Ultrafire makes a 3000mah but it is actually a little wider in girth and might not fit in my flashlight or this unit. So 2800mah Soshine is the largest button top that I've found in a reputable? brand.

The chargers common in the market are tenergy or ultrafire which are brands I distrust. They also don't use the protocol of a more expensive charger.


I won't be able to put a 100% recommendation on the Soshine until I've verified that under the load of the Provari E-Cigarette it runs for a long time. So I'll be sure to check back.

As a part of the experiment I'll switch to a 801 HR at 6v too.
 

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Well to test the battery out I vaped heavily for an hour or so at 5.5V this is in addition to what I vaped before. Than the process just seemed to slow so I ran the battery in my Halogen Flashlight for at least 3 hours on high. This means that the battery is around 3/4 discharged. Checked the Voltage and it's down to 3.6V. Turns out the battery tester is testing how much volts the battery is putting out and not how low it is. Anyway at 3/4 discharge this battery is not having a problem operating the machine. So I have come to the conclusion that the SoShine 3.7V 2800mah is rock solid battery to use with the Provari and will drive it for a really long time. Yeah not 100% scientific and the sample size is small but I'm satisfied.
By the way running a battery on a 320 Lumen setting for 3 hours makes the battery hot, whether from the flashlight or the strain on the battery. The battery is running cool as an Ice Cube in the Provari.

My concern was since this is not sold as a high drain battery would it gag and puke once it was mostly discharged, since I didn't see that, I'm going to assume that this brand battery is fine for the Provari.
 

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Top Cat you aren't going to be disappointed with this unit. It's pricy but worth every penny. Just the ability to localize problems by checking the Atty and the Battery is an unbelievable feature. If you go with the 18650 2800MAH battery or it's equivalent, you are going to get very long battery life. Many Hours of vaping didn't use even 1/4 of the Battery.

I suggest that you go with the 3ohm 510 cartomizer from Provari. While initially I wasn't impressed with it it grew on me. The cartomizers definitely stay moist longer than regular atomizer cartridge setup.

I do have a 510 MAP-Tank E2 Mod 2.8 ohm arriving but I can't make a recommendation for it yet. The idea of putting in 5ml of juice and forgetting about wetting and refilling looks great to me. By the way don't forget to buy a drip tip.
 

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Just received my Provari.


Conclusion;
Durability is yet to be seen. How long will the O ring last before leaking. What about the durability of the switch and the complex electronics.

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yea thats why im waiting a year before purchasing my first vv...want to see how these hold up. Will there be massive complaints of failures after 6 months to a year? mabe mabe not.

right now happy w18650's and LR attys.
 

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I think your right Clayk I've run it through it's paces probably equivalent to a weeks vaping and the voltage output is 3.5v so I'm recharging it. Why push it.

What I really liked about exchanging batteries is that on a normal E-Cig the voltage is higher at the beginning and lowers as you go along. So the first hours are hotter vape. The provari is compensating for the difference in voltage and the vape, with the new battery showing 4v, is identical to the vape with the battery at 3.5V.

I really like the consistent vape.
 

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Another feature that I really like about the Provari.

It has a Catch Well around the base. My old GGTS used to occasionally leak and I'd get fluid on my clothes. With the 3.0 Ohm Cartomizer I bought from Provari. I drip into the top. The excess goes into the well than I just tip it over with a tissue and it seems to all go into the tissue. They even designed the well so that it catches excess well and drains easily. I'm able to keep the cartomizer really moist and not worry about mess.
Using my old Atomizer and Cart setup if I overfilled than it would flood the atomizer. This is not the case with a cartomizer. It's definitely superior.
I've also lowered my voltage to 3.7 and am taking longer more flavorful drags. The 3.7V is a sweet spot for me with the 3.0 Ohm (Measuring at 2.9 with 11 button presses)
 
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