Provaping verse Antivaping
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And now the new thing is to snort cocoa.
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So you're saying I may as well eat the popcorn? Even with the diacetyl?
I'm so confused now.
That would be entirely up to you. But whatever you decide, it will not change the inevitable and avoiding popcorn is no guarantee of delaying the inevitable.
Right now no one in research has made the case that tells me vaping is harmless or that vaping is harmful. I do have to put a plus in the antivaping research. They were the one's who initially called out diketones and high temp concerns, provaping researchers could not deny it so had to hop on board. When we see the two coming together, that raises eyebrows, least it does mine. I avoid flavoring because of it and only use a few drops of diketone free flavoring. Still not comfortable because there are still soo many chemicals that have yet been studied that may still be cause of concern. I vape at low wattage as well to avoid high temps and reduced my use of vg. So while i feel better vaping, i take every precaution that both sides put forth if i find it has merit. But right now research is lacking badly, like being up to date with how vapers vape today and not yesterday. Vape gear has evolved and still evolves everyday. Researchers need to be talking to vapers and learning about vapers of today, and not focusing on old technology. For the love of god they are still testing cigalikes and egos as their bases for study.
Right now i just follow blindly like i did cigs, i will admit, in the short term, that i felt better. I did feel better when i started smoking and thoroughly enjoyed it for many years. The short term effect with cigs was positive, the short term effect with vaping is positive. If vaping has any concerns it has to be the long term effect like cigs. This is a the million dollar question, the long term effects of vaping. Research can't provide me with that right now. Vaping is still fairly new. All i can go by is that i use to be a 30yr smoker who has suffered the LONG TERM ill effects, and vaping makes those effects go away. This is how my mind works and thinking about the whole process and my experiences. Am i trading out some long term ill effects with smoking and another through vaping that will show up years down the road? None of us can answer that question. But as for now i will vape on and follow what my health tells me, it's all i have at this point until research gets their act together especially on the provaping research.
Right now i just follow blindly like i did cigs, i will admit, in the short term, that i felt better. I did feel better when i started smoking and thoroughly enjoyed it for many years. The short term effect with cigs was positive, the short term effect with vaping is positive. If vaping has any concerns it has to be the long term effect like cigs. This is a the million dollar question, the long term effects of vaping. Research can't provide me with that right now. Vaping is still fairly new. All i can go by is that i use to be a 30yr smoker who has suffered the LONG TERM ill effects, and vaping makes those effects go away. This is how my mind works and thinking about the whole process and my experiences. Am i trading out some long term ill effects with smoking and another through vaping that will show up years down the road? None of us can answer that question. But as for now i will vape on and follow what my health tells me, it's all i have at this point until research gets their act together especially on the provaping research.
I want to believe and have faith in vaping so badly, but i am not gullible. There will be more negative findings and i will adjust my vaping practices as research marches forward.
When I was a kid they used to light the leave piles on fire to disperse them, right there on the sides of the streets. Funny how they discontinued that practice, jeez, maybe 'bout 45 years ago.
Smoke kills, which is a fact any fireman will sadly verify.
Some truths are evident.
Kat - stop Bogarting the popcorn. Pass it over.
And throw out all the burnt kernels. They've got carcinogens...
Me neither. "Safe" is a funny word though.
Is it safe to drive to the grocery store tomorrow morning?
But but but!!!!! I SAFELY drove to TJs to get it! (and I DID get the burnt kernel/diacetyl free brand.... with buttah)
This, Eskie, this and this. (Well said)
So you're saying I may as well eat the popcorn? Even with the diacetyl?
I'm so confused now.
I am as well, but it could be I don't kwite follow the posts here, or their meanings.
Go texticles, go.
I think your expectations may be a bit high, or low, depending on the perspective of the sentence in question. Regarding chemicals, which ones exactly?
I'm not trying to provide any information here, instead I'm simply looking for insight.
Again, I'll ask for insight. I don't recall the positive, but I do recall coughing like the 13 year-old that I was at the time. It was pretty much downhill from there, at least for me.
REALLLLLLLY? It has to be one end of the spectrum or the other for you? If so, why so?
So, you're stating you support anti-vaping research?
Another question. From where did you draw that conclusion?
I ask because the ones who exposed this issue were actually the vapers. Here, mainly, on ECF. I, and many other here, were present for it. Nobody hopped on any boards.
What chemicals would those be, please? I'm sure you'd agree it's not even CLOSE to comparable to what we all WERE inhaling, yah?
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